Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13607628)

I think the educational system in the US isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than a healthy majority of the rest of the world.

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13607628)

I think the educational system in the US isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than a healthy majority of the rest of the world.

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 13560439)

I don't know about Mexicans but I don't know any fellow Canadians who give a shit that you call yourselves "Americans."

Hell, everyone I know calls you Americans too.

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13607628)

I think lack of critical thinking skills is more of an individual issue rather than a widespread lack of proper education. How many people in your highschool are complete idiots? Took the same classes with the same teachers as you, yet they don't posses critical thinking skills. Everyone reacts to education differently, some people pick it up, some don't, and some pick up more than what they were supposed to.

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13607628)

I wouldn't neccessarily put the lack of any logical/critical thinking skills on the education system. There are people the go to respected schools that don't have any kind of common sense or ability to logically work through a situation that you or I could. But ask them to build a laser to cook up a potatoe and they'll have it together in an hour.

I think lack of critical thinking skills is more of an individual issue rather than a widespread lack of proper education. How many people in your highschool are complete idiots? Took the same classes with the same teachers as you, yet they don't posses critical thinking skills. Everyone reacts to education differently, some people pick it up, some don't, and some pick up more than what they were supposed to.

I think the educational system in the US isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than a healthy majority of the rest of the world.

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 13607672)

The centralization of the American education curriculum has always annoyed me. I met a Florida friend's children (aged 11 and 9) and showed them my road map of the States and Canada and asked them to find Canada. They couldn't. I mean, there's only two countries there! Arg!

Originally Posted by kovacs (Post 13560461)

my top 5:

* neo-imperialist foreign policy
* world's largest polluter
* world's largest user of fossil fuels
* decades of state sponsored terrorism in south america and the middle east
* majority of americans are uneducated, ignorant, opiniated, overweight fuckwits

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 13607160)

What's worse is that many Americans take "patriotism" too far and think it means they need to support their government whole-heartedly in all its decisions or they'll be labelled a traitor to their country. And God forbid an American should be called "un-American."

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 13560439)

I don't know about Mexicans but I don't know any fellow Canadians who give a shit that you call yourselves "Americans."

Hell, everyone I know calls you Americans too.

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13607944)

really? "many americans"??

you mean in what is essentially a two party political system with both sides usually in intense opposition to each other views and attacking each other constantly on every single point, there is a sense that one shouldn't criticize?

seriously?

your post sounds like something you read in a propaganda piece somewhere.

you couldn't possibly support that statement with fact.

your posts are arrogant and condescending and your "opinions" are completely baseless.

Originally Posted by ismokeblunts (Post 13607956)

Seriously, the number one reason people outside the US hate the US is the average american's attitude and ignorance towards anything that isn't purely american in nature. It comes across on nearly every american I've ever met. I've met some really cool yanks in my day, but they were far and few between.

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 13607977)

I have already listed what experiences my opinions are based on.

And yes, there is a very strong sentiment especially in American mass media that "If you're not with us, you're against us" and people who don't support the government's actions are counter-productive. This is a well documented phenomenon. Since Congress has gone democratic and Bush is wearing out his welcome, the pendulum has begun to swing the other way. But there's still very little open debate on television. "News" stories feature only one side of an issue, not both, and the station usually has a chosen bias that its stories support. Where both sides of an issue are represented, the unfavourable side is often presented by a more kooky and less respected character than the person who is presenting the favoured side.

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 13607473)

Yeah, Well States learned from Korea and Vietnam, now they won't go for another armed conflict unless there is not a decent buck in it :winkwink:

Everyone with a little bit of overview (and from the outside world) can see that from 1000 miles away..

I was checking a couple of magazines and newspapers in the States, and there was a very few that wouldn't have something related to the current conflicts in their current issue, what I observed was always the same scheme of the article:

1) there is a recent problem and we are aware of that (say troops in Iraq are slaughtered big time and have a hard time while getting back)
2) a proper analysis why they are there etc. long - very long analysis with many names and people with many titles commenting
3) the resume: in fact it's allright and we have to support them

So the propaganda works on 101 pct. - it has to, if you want to lead a war you can't let anyone disbelief in it, no matter if on the field or the civils.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 13607977)

I have already listed what experiences my opinions are based on.

And yes, there is a very strong sentiment especially in American mass media that "If you're not with us, you're against us" and people who don't support the government's actions are counter-productive. This is a well documented phenomenon. Since Congress has gone democratic and Bush is wearing out his welcome, the pendulum has begun to swing the other way. But there's still very little open debate on television. "News" stories feature only one side of an issue, not both, and the station usually has a chosen bias that its stories support. Where both sides of an issue are represented, the unfavourable side is often presented by a more kooky and less respected character than the person who is presenting the favoured side.

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 13607988)

What the hell are you talking about? California, roughly the same population of Canada produces almost double the GDP of Canada and almost the same as ALL of Russia with 5x the population. Russia and Canada have far better educational systems then the US, but why do Californians or Americans produce the best goods or services the worlds has seen? What Canadian product(S) are recognized worldwide due to your great education system?...pancake syrup? Finally, you are in an American porn market, trying to earn American dollars, on an American forum. Can you see why we fail to understand your point or thinking? This would be like me going to Canada and telling you how to grow pot.

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13608013)

and God forbid anyone get started on Canadian media and their bias AND censorship and the "hidden agenda of conservative media owners"... because that doesn't happen there.... media bias, as explained here apparently just starts and ends with Bush and dumb Americans.

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 13607979)

Ignorance is the key, but for both sides :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 13608032)

I wouldn't call it a hidden agenda of the station owners. And the US is not the only country with biased media. There is definitely more of a "hoorah" attitude from some news programs in the States than I've seen abroad, though.

Alright, that's enough from me. You guys have fun.

Originally Posted by SplitNeo (Post 13608047)

you know, besides all that is being discussed here, the thing I hate in the US the most is the fact that you can sue everyone for basically everything, and you will probably win.
Some people makes this a lifestyle, we have a good example here on this board, I don't even need to mention his nickname.
When you're sit in a bus stop or watching football sunday and there's a spot talking about how a lawyer will help you, you can see how fucked up is your culture.
'Want to fight that ticket?' 'Remove someone from the jail?' give us a call, we will help you!
that's my rant.

Originally Posted by Balalsubturfyooj (Post 13608038)

Perhaps one major factor is religion. If you consider the amount of people who belong to religious groups and clan together as to enforce social policies and claim that both church and state are separate, but hide the fact that it's influence is just the same on the social system... such people are considered to be fanatical in nature; not to say that all religious types are extreme and dangerous.

The two biggest religions are: Christian & Islamic

Sometime I wounder if Christianity was created to stop the spread of the Islam as to create more peaceful social structures... and to balance out the early world as to get away from clan/religious warfare mindset.

So I think it is reasonable and plossible when it comes to US foreign policies to conclude that difference in religious values seem to drive semi-political/religous social agendas world wide and that is whats going on in the mid east and is just more noticeable...

So to answer your question why does everyone hate the US well perhaps its just that the tolerances are different.


Perhaps the US just has more cute girls? :winkwink:


Later,

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Originally Posted by SplitNeo (Post 13608047)

you know, besides all that is being discussed here, the thing I hate in the US the most is the fact that you can sue everyone for basically everything, and you will probably win.
Some people makes this a lifestyle, we have a good example here on this board, I don't even need to mention his nickname.
When you're sit in a bus stop or watching football sunday and there's a spot talking about how a lawyer will help you, you can see how fucked up is your culture.
'Want to fight that ticket?' 'Remove someone from the jail?' give us a call, we will help you!
that's my rant.

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 13608074)

Well it's definitely another issue, the way anyone can parasit from the US law system is incredible, it's been said 3 - 5 pct. of the GDB of the US is spent on the public law issues, and about 50 pct. of the world's public law lawyers made their buck in US, but again you have to be a bit educated to know this..

But again - on the other hand, there is no other country where you can solve your claims / sues in such a fast fashion as in the US.

The continental system is maybe more sophisticated, not that relying on the feelings and showtime, but defininitely more rigid and some cases will inevitably take years to come to a conlusion...:2 cents:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13608013)

and God forbid anyone get started on Canadian media and their bias AND censorship and the "hidden agenda of conservative media owners"... because that doesn't happen there.... media bias, as explained here apparently just starts and ends with Bush and dumb Americans.

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13608105)

I'm sure with the great education system in the USA they would teach you to type in proper sentances? :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Hotrocket (Post 13608167)

they hate us because its currently trendy to do so...

Originally Posted by Balalsubturfyooj (Post 13608223)

Perhaps you should turn on the learning Channel from time to time and find out how poor some of these people really are... no real health care structure besides UN aid in many locations... jealousy, wealth... hell yea... you bet they would be thinking such and having attitudes that will show such...

Originally Posted by Balalsubturfyooj (Post 13608223)

What are you talking about Hotrocket & Uno ?

Perhaps you should turn on the learning Channel from time to time and find out how poor some of these people really are... no real health care structure besides UN aid in many locations... jealousy, wealth... hell yea... you bet they would be thinking such and having attitudes that will show such...

"Bushism" lol... come on people you can't blame just one man... he is representing the US interests not just his own... you people vote in someone to represent your interests and when things don't go your way you blame the president... grow up and take some responsibility for your nation.


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Originally Posted by uno (Post 13608185)

here is a simple question. why do most countries hate americans

is it jealousy ? No
Clarification: Other countries are not jealous of the US.
is it their attitude ? Yes
Clarification: Other countries hate the attitude of a lot of americans.
is it their wealth ? No
Clarification: Other countries do not hate us for having money.
is it that they stick up for some who can't stick up for them selfs such as the people in Serbia or Croatia when Europe did not want to do anything about it ? No
Clarification: It's not because we help other countries out. It's that we stick our nose where it doesn't belong.
is it cause they tell some people the way it is ? Yes
Clarification: It's because we tell people the way we think it should be.
is it bushism ? Yes
Clarification: Bush is hated by just about everyone I have met from and in the rest of the world. People hate his policies, they hate his style and they hate his arrogance. People who act in a similar manner aren't looked upon in positive light.

what do you think is the reason many countries hate Americans and have that hateful look when you go into their country with an American passport ? Foreign policy.
Clarification: Foreign policy(an extension of what the government does in our name).

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 13607056)

White trash is something that you'll find in every country of the world, unfortunately, some of the western white trash, especially from UK, lately regularly enjoys Prague...

You can hardly walk around the center over the weekends after midnight not to hear degenerated taunts and sounds of pissing and womiting on every other corner..

I was kind of amazed - last time I seen one English dude sticking a finger his throat and trying to puke on the others - frankly, I have never seen such an intense display of dementia and degeneration..

:helpme

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13607628)

I think the educational system in the US isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than a healthy majority of the rest of the world.

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 13608421)

Im sorry to say but it is very true what you are saying about some ways of the English culture. They do it over here and think it is funny. Unfortunatly our laws over here have degenirated to nothing and I have never seen so much disrespect for other people property than what I see over here in the UK now. Our English culture and ways and especially with the younger generation have just gone to peices. Guns and knife attacks are out of control over here and the whole country has gone to shit.

Originally Posted by Porn Farmer (Post 13609161)

The third world maybe. :1orglaugh