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CarlosTheGaucho 12-25-2007 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13561969)

Is that THE gfy user who publically disqualified himself by his own stupidity claiming that Slovakia is occupied with Gypsies? :winkwink:

Now this is a serious example of how should people NOT behave unless they are semi - impotent keyboard warriors locked in the comfort of their homes afraid of a human contact. :thumbsup

CarlosTheGaucho 12-25-2007 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by webmasterchecks (Post 13561988)
i prove my point that the rest of the world hates our freedom! when you are the us, you can do what you want

Well, honestly - I have to tell you I have traveled more than 20 countries in my life, and I never felt so chained by regulations and rules as in the states.

From the time I boarded the plane, there was always someone behind me telling what I can and what I can't:

"switch off the mp3 player"
"don't take any photographs"
"move on"

And I took that seriously because I know that it's not good to hassle with the regulations in the States and I am not a kind of type that would care plus I was on a visit so I will not be trying to pull a high on anyone.

I actually like order very much, am more of a German nature - but it's anyway something I am not used to and I am not used to be bothered by anyone.

One thing I was really seriously aware off - never ever try to hassle with Police - I know this is the basic rule and I could end up real bad - I don't have issues with language, and even I do typos I was usually regarded as an Irishman or a UK guy while in US so they would not get mad at me because of this, but I knew that once this would happen - just shut the fuck up and talk to the point...

You know here - you will just have a friendly talk and if you did just something like speeding or bad parking - they don't give a shit and sometimes just let you go or give you the lowest fine if you are not behaving like a hero and they find you ok.

Noone ever cares about anything around here, noone will be bothering you unless you bother him - I don't mean that it's always good and especially the tourists misuse it a big time because they couldn't really shout / piss / woomit / get drunk publically in their place and especially the british tourists are the worst white trash they could ever import here..

What I found out is basically:

US is some of the best displays of the old school "Sugar and Lash" principles:

- you give the people the best customer support / they can refund everything many services for free or with bonuses etc. etc. so you will be happy the companies the government is SO CARING about your comfort

BUT

once you break the rules noone will give a damn and you will end up real bad and you will make sure everyone knows that this is not the way to go... Jail / fines / lawsuits - whatever..

Azoy? 12-25-2007 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by webmasterchecks (Post 13561988)
i prove my point that the rest of the world hates our freedom! when you are the us, you can do what you want

no you can't.
it is this attitude and know it all attitude that makes the rest of the world hate the unites states.
now go on and go to sleep cause you have to wake up pretty early in the morning to milk those cows.

donnie 12-25-2007 10:50 AM

Countries don't hate americans... Countries can't hate or love.

Besides that, you are grossly misinformed. USA actually bombed Serbia.

I really don?t want to say anything else. I feel dumber by just reading this thread?

Azoy? 12-25-2007 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by donnie (Post 13562285)
Countries don't hate americans... Countries can't hate or love.

Besides that, you are grossly misinformed. USA actually bombed Serbia.

I really don?t want to say anything else. I feel dumber by just reading this thread?

which is what i said :winkwink: in the original post

"is it that they stick up for some who can't stick up for them selfs such as the people in Serbia or Croatia when Europe did not want to do anything about it ?"

TTiger 12-25-2007 12:35 PM

Chauvinism some american (not all) are looking at others people like we were moron because we don't live in USA or don't speak english very well

[ScreaM] 12-25-2007 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 13560402)
It probably has more to do with your government rather than the people

Yup, exactly.

yys 12-25-2007 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 13560746)
hummm... I think you have the US confused with China

There I fixed the bottom of his quote so it more accurately reflects Chinese history.

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Originally Posted by kovacs View Post
my top 5:

* neo-imperialist foreign policy
* world's largest polluter
* world's largest user of fossil fuels
* 5,000/yrs of state sponsored terrorism



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Originally Posted by Donfoolio (Post 13561723)
QFT

And I will add...

They killed off one of this worlds greatest races. :mad:

Do you mean the ones who figured out how to use stones as tools?

Clean_Franck 12-25-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Azoy? (Post 13560392)
here is a simple question. why do most countries hate americans

is it jealousy ?
is it their attitude ?
is it their wealth ?
is it that they stick up for some who can't stick up for them selfs such as the people in Serbia or Croatia when Europe did not want to do anything about it ?
is it cause they tell some people the way it is ?
is it bushism ?

what do you think is the reason many countries hate Americans and have that hateful look when you go into their country with an American passport ?


Its probably something to do with arrogance, a perfect example are the select sample questions you have asked :upsidedow

CurrentlySober 12-25-2007 01:20 PM

because they dont have many elephants?

mpisexpi 12-25-2007 02:25 PM

imperialism

just a punk 12-25-2007 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Azoy? (Post 13560392)
why do most countries hate americans?

Perhaps some do hate, but others just don't care :pimp

Barefootsies 12-26-2007 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 13561994)
Is that THE gfy user who publically disqualified himself by his own stupidity claiming that Slovakia is occupied with Gypsies? :winkwink:

Now this is a serious example of how should people NOT behave unless they are semi - impotent keyboard warriors locked in the comfort of their homes afraid of a human contact. :thumbsup


CarlosTheGaucho 12-26-2007 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Clean_Franck (Post 13562699)
Its probably something to do with arrogance, a perfect example are the select sample questions you have asked :upsidedow

You have to differ between the arrogance and the healthy competitivness / ambitions and the will to make it big and not beeing afraid to sell yourself.

The sense of competitivness, the will to challenge others is not a thing that would really be spread around here because people will rather not stand out of the crowd cause they are lazy and not willing to prove they are something better than the rest of them and will rather follow the crowd.

I don't think it's good, and even it's actually true that may US people might look arrogant for the first glimpse, it's again in many cases about understanding the culture (and they have to be ultimately able not to own themselves).

Frankly - I really did learned a lot about self presentation and how to sell yourself from my US brothers and I am very grateful for that.

Moreover - in contradiction, I would say US is the ultimate country that can accept the success, loves those succesfull (I don't think it's a surface and still believe it's genuine) and can PAY for your abilities and know how - again - here it's mainly total surface and hypocricy and everyone is rather the smartass instead of beeing able not to envy and to admit someone's success and abilities.

:2 cents:

MBS Auto 12-26-2007 04:10 PM

They don't hate Americans... they Hate our Foreign Policy and Gov't
:winkwink::winkwink:

pornguy 12-26-2007 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Donfoolio (Post 13561723)
QFT

And I will add...

They killed off one of this worlds greatest races. :mad:

????? WTF are you talking about?

xmas13 12-26-2007 04:40 PM

http://www.fezbrothersink.com/images/morans.jpg

CarlosTheGaucho 01-04-2008 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MBS Auto (Post 13566477)
They don't hate Americans... they Hate our Foreign Policy and Gov't
:winkwink::winkwink:

As I mentioned, the average Joe in Europe ain't know that much about foreign policy and government as much as he is fed with the world's sickest standards of mass media culture ever available. :2 cents:

severe 01-04-2008 08:40 AM

Interference with other countries for political reasons / global influence.
Arrogance (shit like expecting everyone to speak English without taking the time to learn some basics of the language of the country your in)
superiority complex

ADL Colin 01-04-2008 08:49 AM

nice posts carlos

Azoy? 01-04-2008 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by severe (Post 13605304)
Interference with other countries for political reasons / global influence.
Arrogance (shit like expecting everyone to speak English without taking the time to learn some basics of the language of the country your in)
superiority complex

If you ask most Americans they think English is an American thing or the langauge of the world because of the United States.
Not realizing that it's actually because of the English empire that the language is spoken at many countries.

mrwilson 01-04-2008 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13566585)

ROFL CLASS!:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

All countries have dicks who like to talk shit, its just the the USA is massive and contains more so they stand out above the rest.

CarlosTheGaucho 01-04-2008 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 13605332)
nice posts carlos

Thanks, I am not trying to win the Nobel Prize for Peace here but there are issues I use to think about and I don't think you can just describe them in a couple of brief points.

CarlosTheGaucho 01-04-2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13566585)

White trash is something that you'll find in every country of the world, unfortunately, some of the western white trash, especially from UK, lately regularly enjoys Prague...

You can hardly walk around the center over the weekends after midnight not to hear degenerated taunts and sounds of pissing and womiting on every other corner..

I was kind of amazed - last time I seen one English dude sticking a finger his throat and trying to puke on the others - frankly, I have never seen such an intense display of dementia and degeneration..

:helpme

huey 01-04-2008 03:07 PM

Because it took the majority of Amercans to vote in Bush not once but twice.

Bryan G 01-04-2008 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13566585)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Elli 01-04-2008 03:23 PM

The States has a long history of being isolationist as a general policy but meddling in others' affairs when it suits its interests best. Sure, all countries should probably do this. But only a few can have a global impact. The current president's arrogance and his administration's depth of corruption underlines the USA's hypocrisy to the rest of the world. When your president can say "We have to stop the horrible dictator and rescue his citizens" for one country with obvious assets while ignoring other similar and even worse situations in Africa, etc etc, then it's just a case of insulting the audience's intelligence.

What's worse is that many Americans take "patriotism" too far and think it means they need to support their government whole-heartedly in all its decisions or they'll be labelled a traitor to their country. And God forbid an American should be called "un-American."

_Richard_ 01-04-2008 03:27 PM

better question is why americans hate most countries lol

directfiesta 01-04-2008 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Sexbankroll (Post 13607172)
better question is why americans hate most countries lol

:1orglaugh different perspective worth considering.

_Richard_ 01-04-2008 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 13607184)
:1orglaugh different perspective worth considering.

oh well, america is a big place lol

CarlosTheGaucho 01-04-2008 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 13607160)
The States has a long history of being isolationist as a general policy but meddling in others' affairs when it suits its interests best. Sure, all countries should probably do this. But only a few can have a global impact. The current president's arrogance and his administration's depth of corruption underlines the USA's hypocrisy to the rest of the world. When your president can say "We have to stop the horrible dictator and rescue his citizens" for one country with obvious assets while ignoring other similar and even worse situations in Africa, etc etc, then it's just a case of insulting the audience's intelligence.

What's worse is that many Americans take "patriotism" too far and think it means they need to support their government whole-heartedly in all its decisions or they'll be labelled a traitor to their country. And God forbid an American should be called "un-American."

Yeah, Well States learned from Korea and Vietnam, now they won't go for another armed conflict unless there is not a decent buck in it :winkwink:

Everyone with a little bit of overview (and from the outside world) can see that from 1000 miles away..

I was checking a couple of magazines and newspapers in the States, and there was a very few that wouldn't have something related to the current conflicts in their current issue, what I observed was always the same scheme of the article:

1) there is a recent problem and we are aware of that (say troops in Iraq are slaughtered big time and have a hard time while getting back)
2) a proper analysis why they are there etc. long - very long analysis with many names and people with many titles commenting
3) the resume: in fact it's allright and we have to support them

So the propaganda works on 101 pct. - it has to, if you want to lead a war you can't let anyone disbelief in it, no matter if on the field or the civils.

:2 cents:

DutchTeenCash 01-04-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 13607160)
What's worse is that many Americans take "patriotism" too far and think it means they need to support their government whole-heartedly in all its decisions or they'll be labelled a traitor to their country. And God forbid an American should be called "un-American."

Its weird to see how patriotic some Americans are. Not that I mind but when I put a dutch flag on my car my neighbors are seriously gonna question my sanity. Sometimes I think its more of a lets put the flag all over issue then really knowing what your country stands for and what position they take into major political issues.

Brother Bilo 01-04-2008 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 13607160)
What's worse is that many Americans take "patriotism" too far and think it means they need to support their government whole-heartedly in all its decisions or they'll be labelled a traitor to their country. And God forbid an American should be called "un-American."

I think that's very true. I've known people that would up and kill an entire room if they were called Un-American. Mostly people from the south or midwest, pretty much the ultra red. I consider myself patriotic, but not a degree anywhere near that. There is nothing wrong with being patriotic, as long as you can still think for yourself.

That's the problem that a lot of people have. They end up just following the patriotic bandwagon regardless of the track it's on. I mean, the US is a great country and it's provided a lot for me. I don't always agree with everything that happens here, but no place is perfect and there is no possible way to please every single person.

On the flip side to that, there are people that are so anti-American that they can't see the good things, just so focused on the bad the rest doesn't matter. There's always a flipside to everything.

CarlosTheGaucho 01-04-2008 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 13607489)
Its weird to see how patriotic some Americans are. Not that I mind but when I put a dutch flag on my car my neighbors are seriously gonna question my sanity. Sometimes I think its more of a lets put the flag all over issue then really knowing what your country stands for and what position they take into major political issues.

Nothing wrong in loving your country, but if I would put a flag on a car or something, others would also think I am totally insane or a nazi and am going to beat up some gypsies or something :)

Yeah, USA love their Flag, you can see the flag on every single important photo or with any important bulding and any important event.

DutchTeenCash 01-04-2008 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 13607536)
Nothing wrong in loving your country, but if I would put a flag on a car or something, others would also think I am totally insane or a nazi and am going to beat up some gypsies or something :)

Yeah, USA love their Flag, you can see the flag on every single important photo or with any important bulding and any important event.

the US flag has a different meaning to the Americans, thats one thing Ive learned. Its freedom. Our flag has been there for ages and noone really knows what it stands for, its too long ago.

The blue triangle in the CZ flag was to make a difference with the polish flag and spose to be Moravia, I know cause I got Czech friends. Did you know that? Most European ppl have no clue what their flag stands for so why put it on a car.

Elli 01-04-2008 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 13607554)
the US flag has a different meaning to the Americans, thats one thing Ive learned. Its freedom. Our flag has been there for ages and noone really knows what it stands for, its too long ago.

The blue triangle in the CZ flag was to make a difference with the polish flag and spose to be Moravia, I know cause I got Czech friends. Did you know that? Most European ppl have no clue what their flag stands for so why put it on a car.

Good point!

I also think the lack of education in the States keeps people patriotic. The citizens aren't taught logical/critical thinking skills, so they tend to go with the flow. (I'm talking about the bulk of the population, obviously there are tons and tons of intelligent, free-thinking Americans out there.)

DutchTeenCash 01-04-2008 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 13607597)
Good point!

I also think the lack of education in the States keeps people patriotic. The citizens aren't taught logical/critical thinking skills, so they tend to go with the flow. (I'm talking about the bulk of the population, obviously there are tons and tons of intelligent, free-thinking Americans out there.)

Every country has the go with the flow people. They dont think they just follow. But its not as stigmatized to an object as the national flag. At least not in Europe. Go down south and tell people the rebel flag is crap and theyll give you hell. If you do that here noone gives a shit.

Education isnt that bad in the US, its just very centralized to the US. Unless youre half Jewish most ppl have no clue what really happened in WW2, they do know though bout the Civil War. Makes you wonder. At least it does to me.

Love your irony in that last sentence btw.

CarlosTheGaucho 01-04-2008 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 13607554)
the US flag has a different meaning to the Americans, thats one thing Ive learned. Its freedom. Our flag has been there for ages and noone really knows what it stands for, its too long ago.

The blue triangle in the CZ flag was to make a difference with the polish flag and spose to be Moravia, I know cause I got Czech friends. Did you know that? Most European ppl have no clue what their flag stands for so why put it on a car.

Well the version I was tought is that those are the colours of freedom and liberty (same colours as on the French flag) just differently put. The first president of Czech Rep was a LOT into France, I guess he even had a french wife..

There are actually historical signs and flags for Bohemia / Moravia / Slezsko (don't know the English word) and you are right - Moravia actually looks a bit like the Polish flag

Brother Bilo 01-04-2008 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 13607597)
Good point!

I also think the lack of education in the States keeps people patriotic. The citizens aren't taught logical/critical thinking skills, so they tend to go with the flow. (I'm talking about the bulk of the population, obviously there are tons and tons of intelligent, free-thinking Americans out there.)

I wouldn't neccessarily put the lack of any logical/critical thinking skills on the education system. There are people the go to respected schools that don't have any kind of common sense or ability to logically work through a situation that you or I could. But ask them to build a laser to cook up a potatoe and they'll have it together in an hour.

I think lack of critical thinking skills is more of an individual issue rather than a widespread lack of proper education. How many people in your highschool are complete idiots? Took the same classes with the same teachers as you, yet they don't posses critical thinking skills. Everyone reacts to education differently, some people pick it up, some don't, and some pick up more than what they were supposed to.

I think the educational system in the US isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than a healthy majority of the rest of the world.

buzzy 01-04-2008 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13607513)
On the flip side to that, there are people that are so anti-American that they can't see the good things, just so focused on the bad the rest doesn't matter. There's always a flipside to everything.

Sure thing, hitler was a good guy if you think about it. Just look at all the good things he did and stop being focused on the bad things, that way you see he was really great. :1orglaugh:thumbsup.logic 101


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