So i finally got my 30k mgp ...(read) - GoFuckYourself.com

demon100 · 12-13-2007, 12:44 AM

So , i saw that thread on gfy ....
A guy can make me a 30k site for 1000 $
so i decided to give it a shot , i went to webair and got a 5 mbit server (the builder told me it was enough)
he made me a site ( http://www.18-teenies.com ) all with freehosted galleries sorted on over about 18 sponsors .
I checked my stats and i had 1 bangbros sale

thats it .
if that isnt enough , i checked my bw usage and i saw it was allready 11.6 mbit burning (webair charges 70$ per mbit overusage ) ...
so total of all this : 1000$ for the builder 100$ for smart thumbs ,100$ server setup ,200 first month server rental , 200$ second month server rental and an extra 420$ for the overused bw ...... makes a total of 2020$ for a 30k site that brought me 35$ !!! Aint that great ?
Someone wants to buy a 30k site ? :D

the Shemp · 12-13-2007, 12:48 AM

you are probably getting 30K of people that dont want to be at your site...

Babaganoosh · 12-13-2007, 12:48 AM

I'll take it. How's fifty bucks?

the Shemp · 12-13-2007, 12:48 AM

ps, i looked at your site...it sucks...

L-Pink · 12-13-2007, 12:49 AM

Make it up in volume.

JD · 12-13-2007, 12:51 AM

10 bucks says 80% of that 30k is bots

demon100 · 12-13-2007, 01:02 AM

hi shemp , why does it sucks ?
And how to check for bots ?

axelez · 12-13-2007, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demon100

so total of all this : 1000$ for the builder 100$ for smart thumbs ,100$ server setup ,200 first month server rental , 200$ second month server rental and an extra 420$ for the overused bw ...... makes a total of 2020$ for a 30k site that brought me 35$ !!! Aint that great ?

demon100 · 12-13-2007, 01:21 AM

someone any tips ?

dynastoned · 12-13-2007, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demon100

someone any tips ?

thats fucked up hit me up tomorrow ill help you make some of your money back. leave a msg on my icq or something.

L-Pink · 12-13-2007, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dynastoned

thats fucked up hit me up tomorrow ill help you make some of your money back. leave a msg on my icq or something.

Boobs · 12-13-2007, 01:34 AM

Zorgman · 12-13-2007, 01:37 AM

Too many pictures.

220 pictures X 20k (average each) = 4.4MB traffic just to load the main page.
30,000 surfers X 4.4MB each page load = 132GB a day?
132GB a day x 30 days = 3,960GB per month.

Is this wrong?

CunningStunt · 12-13-2007, 01:37 AM

What a fucking horrible site, sorry

How about some categorisation? Why all the forced sex crap? Why so much sperm flying around the place?

You're giving surfers far too much to get off on.

Lose the one million images on a page approach. Check out somewhere like free6 or even shemp's link lists.

the Shemp · 12-13-2007, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demon100

hi shemp , why does it sucks ?
And how to check for bots ?

- get a real logo, so people can remember your site
- get some real galleries at the top of your page, fhg's are good for fillers and work best at the bottom of the page.
- cut down on the size of the thumbs, its way overkill now.

right now your site looks like one of those instant things that gets made with a couple of mouse clicks...spend some time on it, personalize it... add categories, but try to make it a little different than the 10,000 sites that look just like it..

martinsc · 12-13-2007, 02:31 AM

ouch....

Odin · 12-13-2007, 03:10 AM

That sucks, but really I guess that is what happens when you think you can just walk into money that easy. Don't want to be harsh as I am sure you learnt your lesson, but unfortunately it's never really that easy.

sonofsam · 12-13-2007, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp

- get a real logo, so people can remember your site
- get some real galleries at the top of your page, fhg's are good for fillers and work best at the bottom of the page.
- cut down on the size of the thumbs, its way overkill now.

right now your site looks like one of those instant things that gets made with a couple of mouse clicks...spend some time on it, personalize it... add categories, but try to make it a little different than the 10,000 sites that look just like it..

^ I suggest you listen to this man, and be greatful that he gave you the tips he did...

hi mr shemp!

demon100 · 12-13-2007, 05:32 AM

thats something i tried out for 100 times ... with text mgp's , I dont understand how it comes there are thousands of thumbsites like mine out there that actually are making money of them ... why else would they be online ? ...
I am going to cancel the whole thing , it costed me more then enough allready ... trail and error .... error it is

Basic_man · 12-13-2007, 05:35 AM

How can you burn that much BW with only FHG ?

Klen · 12-13-2007, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demon100

thats something i tried out for 100 times ... with text mgp's , I dont understand how it comes there are thousands of thumbsites like mine out there that actually are making money of them ... why else would they be online ? ...
I am going to cancel the whole thing , it costed me more then enough allready ... trail and error .... error it is

Are you going to sell it or simply kill site ?

Quotealex · 12-13-2007, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demon100

someone any tips ?

why not use the "CONVERTING LIKE CRAZY WITH 35$ PER SIGNUP" in your sig? I'm sure it will convert like crazy on your MGP!

LFCII · 12-13-2007, 05:54 AM

Hmmmmm

I realize you are a little depressed. Welcome to the Tant business

Before you close shop, do the three simple things Shemp suggest. It is only 3 things and you might be surprise how "simple equals success". IMHO

Kind Regards,

Les

Shoplifter · 12-13-2007, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demon100

someone any tips ?

Well the guy made you a tgp that has 30k views. A tgp that has 30k sales is a very very different thing.

I think you got exactly what you asked for unfortunately.

TeenCat · 12-13-2007, 06:07 AM

hm your site is 18-teenies and you are promoting bangbros in there? come on, when bangbros had teens? what about to put there some real looking teens sponsors as payserve, dieselcash, teenrevenue ... and as many people told, only pics and no text galleries are your pain in the a*s. so much pics on one flat page means so much burned bandwidth ... but i dont have any crapy tgp/mgp so those are only my

wish you best with your sites anyway!

the Shemp · 12-13-2007, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

^ I suggest you listen to this man, and be greatful that he gave you the tips he did...

hi mr shemp!

hello SOS, nice to see you are still around...

candyflip · 12-13-2007, 12:59 PM

If you're going to scrap it, I'll give you $250 for it.

Lace · 12-13-2007, 01:33 PM

I'd listen to Shemp...

Mike get back to you btw, Shemp?

warlordx · 12-13-2007, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD

10 bucks says 80% of that 30k is bots

man i'll add another $20 to that bet .... have you noticed that most of the sites in your trade list just happen to look just like yours hmmm ive had traffic from sites like these before and it cheats the shit outta your site they look like they are there and clicking madly but when they get to another site on your trade list all of a sudden not one of them clicks anything ..

if it were mine i'd change the trade script to something that has cheat warnings that work in it like smarttraffictrader at least that way you can see which sites really are cheating and botting the fuck outta your site cos right now you are paying for around 80% bots i can almost guarantee it if you dont believe me hit me up on icq and i have a site you can test the traffic on

Andy Servers4Less · 12-13-2007, 02:46 PM

Wow... $70/ Mbit huh??

The Captain · 12-13-2007, 02:58 PM

sounds like a sweet deal does that guy take on any new clients?

sandman! · 12-13-2007, 02:59 PM

icq me with what your looking to get for it 14420613

12-13-2007, 03:04 PM

If you want to scrap it, please contact me. I've got a few dollars I can offer you for it.

The Judge · 12-13-2007, 03:04 PM

"cut down on the size of the thumbs, its way overkill now."

that will reduce productivity

Xrated J · 12-13-2007, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp

- get a real logo, so people can remember your site
- get some real galleries at the top of your page, fhg's are good for fillers and work best at the bottom of the page.
- cut down on the size of the thumbs, its way overkill now.

right now your site looks like one of those instant things that gets made with a couple of mouse clicks...spend some time on it, personalize it... add categories, but try to make it a little different than the 10,000 sites that look just like it..

i think you may want to listen to this. i think he may know a thing or two about it.

teksonline · 12-13-2007, 03:08 PM

clue #1 you did business with russian who sale low icq
clue #2 all those links go to other russian sites who sale low icq
clue #3 1 signup equal stolen credit card to make you feel ok about traffic, he use this credit card to bigh low icq

free clue... you are paying for phoney traffic off DNS spoof, so i would close it immediately and learn all my clues.

The Judge · 12-13-2007, 03:45 PM

his trade script already has hitbot detection, but maybe it's only in the paid version

where are you getting your feeder from?

the Shemp · 12-13-2007, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Judge

"cut down on the size of the thumbs, its way overkill now."

that will reduce productivity

then just have one big thumb on the page..that should really be good for productivity..

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-13-2007, 04:09 PM

wtf is with all the little kids being raped on there?

teksonline · 12-13-2007, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Judge

his trade script already has hitbot detection, but maybe it's only in the paid version

where are you getting your feeder from?

hitbots and DNS spoofs are two entirely different things
of course it could be virus traffic, could be many things.. but if i could build a 30k site that had any value whatsoever, why would i be selling it for 1k lol

The Judge · 12-13-2007, 10:17 PM

it would but he won't be getting many bookmarkers with one thumb

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp

then just have one big thumb on the page..that should really be good for productivity..

The Judge · 12-13-2007, 10:18 PM

good point

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline

hitbots and DNS spoofs are two entirely different things
of course it could be virus traffic, could be many things.. but if i could build a 30k site that had any value whatsoever, why would i be selling it for 1k lol

Babaganoosh · 12-13-2007, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Judge

"cut down on the size of the thumbs, its way overkill now."

that will reduce productivity

You aren't really a webmaster...are you?

D Ghost · 12-13-2007, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline

clue #1 you did business with russian who sale low icq
clue #2 all those links go to other russian sites who sale low icq
clue #3 1 signup equal stolen credit card to make you feel ok about traffic, he use this credit card to bigh low icq

free clue... you are paying for phoney traffic off DNS spoof, so i would close it immediately and learn all my clues.

Juicy D. Links · 12-13-2007, 10:36 PM

ill buy it from u

lmk

The Judge · 12-13-2007, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

You aren't really a webmaster...are you?

You never ran a thumb tgp...didn't you?

justFred · 12-13-2007, 10:48 PM

You want targeted traffic, bulk traffic is relatively worthless if you don't filter it. For fucks sake though, don't scrap the project. Install analytics tools and weed out the shitty referring sites, and replace them with better quality sites, or try to build landing pages for each of your surfer types. If you have 30k hits a day you can work with it to get signups, no matter how shitty the traffic is. Everyone starts somewhere, and you started in the fast lane.

read this article

And as for bandwidth, you need fewer thumbs per page. More pages.

http://galleriepages.com/freesites/

does this scam actually convert for anyone?

wanted · 12-13-2007, 10:49 PM

OMG, second image is..

I get why people are not converting

Babaganoosh · 12-13-2007, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Judge

You never ran a thumb tgp...didn't you?

I currently have 6 of them and have tried numerous different thumb sizes over the years including the massive thumbs like you see there. I know from experience that those huge thumbs are garbage for productivity both inbound and outbound. I'm sure you know more about the subject though, surfer.

Miguel T · 12-13-2007, 10:55 PM

Ouch!

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demon100 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,203	So i finally got my 30k mgp ...(read) So , i saw that thread on gfy .... A guy can make me a 30k site for 1000 $ so i decided to give it a shot , i went to webair and got a 5 mbit server (the builder told me it was enough) he made me a site ( http://www.18-teenies.com ) all with freehosted galleries sorted on over about 18 sponsors . I checked my stats and i had 1 bangbros sale thats it . if that isnt enough , i checked my bw usage and i saw it was allready 11.6 mbit burning (webair charges 70$ per mbit overusage ) ... so total of all this : 1000$ for the builder 100$ for smart thumbs ,100$ server setup ,200 first month server rental , 200$ second month server rental and an extra 420$ for the overused bw ...... makes a total of 2020$ for a 30k site that brought me 35$ !!! Aint that great ? Someone wants to buy a 30k site ? :D __________________ Silvia Saint Full movies Sex movies

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