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rowan 12-08-2007 03:59 PM

I stick with PCs because I build my own boxes, the only branded/canned PC I've ever purchased was a laptop.

I can't really say much about the interface because the last time I used a Mac it had a black and white screen and a huge 10MB SCSI drive for storage. I use FreeBSD extensively on my servers so OSX could either be very familiar, or just different enough to be annoying (imagine changing from a Ford to a BMW and hitting the wipers instead of the turn signal)

I'd be interested in trying a Mac one day, I'm just not keen on rebuying licences to the software that I already own, some of which do not have an OS-crossover upgrade available.

GatorB 12-08-2007 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 13487067)
I think that's what he doesn't grasp. That you're not giving one up to running a "more sucky" OS...as he put it. You can RUN THEM ALL, which is something you can't really do on a normal PC (with ease, or with any real support...but it is possible).

Well the reason you can't run the Apple OS on a PC is APPLE'S fault.
See MS decided to let the user determine the hardware he uses with the OS. Apple FORCES you to buy a Mac to run their OS. Which is why even after 30 years Apple is only 4% of the PC market and Microsoft has the dominate OS. Steve Jobs is a retard. If he had been smart he'd make Apple's OS available to anyone and perhaps THEY would be the dominate OS and have more than a 4% share of the computer market. See maybe if people could actually TRY the OS first maybe we'd decide then to try a Mac.

See unless some miracle happens Apple will never be more than 20% of the market and that would really be pushing it. Doesn't it make sense to offer you OS to the 80% who will NEVER switch? I guess Apple doesn't like money because that potentially BILLIONS of extra $$$ in revenue.

GatorB 12-08-2007 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 13486923)
These threads always pop up and you're always the one to holler the loudest against people buying Macs. Look at the number of people switching over. More will continue to do so.


Sorry whore I don't give a fuck you own a Mac. I don't care if you ever use a PC again. You can't find ONE post where I ever tried to convert a Mac user to a PC.

Number converting over? Yeah ok from 3% to 4% only took 30 years.

Yes Macs are computers for idiots. Fortuneately I'm not an idiot so I'm fine with a PC. I guess if someone is an idiot they should get a Mac.

drjones 12-08-2007 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 13488145)
Well the reason you can't run the Apple OS on a PC is APPLE'S fault.
See MS decided to let the user determine the hardware he uses with the OS. Apple FORCES you to buy a Mac to run their OS. Which is why even after 30 years Apple is only 4% of the PC market and Microsoft has the dominate OS. Steve Jobs is a retard. If he had been smart he'd make Apple's OS available to anyone and perhaps THEY would be the dominate OS and have more than a 4% share of the computer market. See maybe if people could actually TRY the OS first maybe we'd decide then to try a Mac.

See unless some miracle happens Apple will never be more than 20% of the market and that would really be pushing it. Doesn't it make sense to offer you OS to the 80% who will NEVER switch? I guess Apple doesn't like money because that potentially BILLIONS of extra $$$ in revenue.

Yea, Apple is really concerned with marketshare, when their stock is one of the most valued in the tech industry. Marketshare isnt indicative of profits. You gotta admit... I see you troll every single mac thread, and each post shows you have absolutely no clue what your talking about. To each his own, use what you want, but honestly... you make yourself look stupid.

drjones 12-08-2007 10:10 PM

Not to mention, most desktop marketshare numbers dont include laptop sales, where Apple is something like 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 of every laptop sold.

candyflip 12-08-2007 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 13488162)
Sorry whore I don't give a fuck you own a Mac. I don't care if you ever use a PC again. You can't find ONE post where I ever tried to convert a Mac user to a PC.

Number converting over? Yeah ok from 3% to 4% only took 30 years.

Yes Macs are computers for idiots. Fortuneately I'm not an idiot so I'm fine with a PC. I guess if someone is an idiot they should get a Mac.

Again. No point in arguing. You do a good enough job making yourself look foolish.

And it looks like I'm not the only one who noticed your love for trolling Mac or Mac vs PC threads.

rowan 12-09-2007 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by drjones (Post 13488999)
Not to mention, most desktop marketshare numbers dont include laptop sales, where Apple is something like 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 of every laptop sold.

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Gerco 12-09-2007 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter (Post 13485912)
see there is the difference, it is part of the person.. a mac tells you "dont worry about where your file is located, ask me for it and i will pull it from its virtual location and hand it to you.." where as pc, there is a logic, folder is placed here and the actual data file is inside the folder where i like it to be.. maybe i am a neat freak.
and yes rotating photos on a mac is a pain in the a**, sometimes i rotate thousands of photos in one setting, dont want to have to sit and pick each one separately and hope the files actually change and not just change in the virtual world of macs...

WOW... have you guys not tried Aperture for apple yet? Makes working with your pictures stupid easy, 90% of all my correction is done in it now, more advanced corrections is a simple round house to Cs3... nothing to it. Rotation pics? if the camera your using sets orientation in the meta data... then totally automatic, else... just select all the images you want rotated and it a one button operation. Also, totally works with RAW. And you can export directly to email, a website, photo-books, templates, and just about any image format you can think of, including full watermarking etc. Seriously... it makes it stupid simple. And, it does all this WITHOUT touching your originals in any way. They are always safe.

And just for a little bit of other info... It also works with you Iphoto, and can also let you store or "work" pictures anywhere you like and reference them... you can even work with those images if they are say, on a firewire drive that you don't have with you....

If your working on a mac... and do any kind of photography... do yourself a favor and at least download the 30 day full trial.

BTW... my current aperture library has 160,000+ images in it. On an Imac with 3 gigs. The pictures alone take up around 100 gig, and I store them on an external firewire drive, backed up to a second external firewire drive... Works flawlessly.

Gerco 12-09-2007 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Azoy? (Post 13487495)
i take a PC anyday over a MAC
with MAC you stock with APPLE and the shitty service they have.
with a PC you can get parts from many different vendors and not have to buy it from one specific vendor.
people think apple is this savor that is so good and will rescue us from Apple but in reality they are worst cause you buy it and you are stock with Apple.
APPLE to the computer industry is like Bush to the United States.

Bullshit. I personally broke the express card slot in my macbook pro while fucking around with my datacard. Totally my fault. I made a phone call to apple support about it... They had me take it to a authorized service center that day and over nighted the part. The guys had the machine back in my hand and working perfect the next day and no charge.

thricer 12-09-2007 12:49 AM

I'm using PC... dunno why

qxm 12-09-2007 12:54 AM

build the pc yourself, then install a triple boot system (XP/Vista-Ubuntu-Mac Leopard)....more bang 4 your buck....

If you buy a notebook, format it and install a triple boot sys. Case closed.....

abdulzabak 12-09-2007 05:26 AM

just to add my 2 cents, seen Leopard crashed into BSOD (well it looks different than Windows, but the same thing).
Tried Mac a few times, but found it too colorfull, too stylish, missing all my little applications I daily use, hated all those big flashy icons (my windows are stripped to W95 look and feel - i work on it, not masturbate on colors).
Using them in emulation is not for me (as with Linux).

Had a funny talk with a friend about widgets crap, he was soooooo excited about them - so I asked how many times in the day do you see a desktop?
Once when I start the computer... I really work on that think.

Bacically my WXP are installed for 4 years without reinstall, I have a lots of shit installed and it's stable.

Didnt see anything on OSX except flashy colors, that I don't get on PC...

And my HW i tend to buy used is dirt cheap. Mac HW is overpriced.

Funny is, ehan people say "Mac HW is better than other" - 99% of Mac HW is simply branded OEM, which runs in normal PC - but with Apple marketing price premium...

If you dont need any PC specific things and you like to be IN, stylish and cool, go for Mac. It works. But it does not give you a blowjob and it does not make your kids smart. It's only an expensive computer

teg0 12-09-2007 06:10 AM

Instead of upgrading to Vista I bought a mac. I couldn't be happier and I'm way more productive. Still can run windows if I need it, but hardly ever do. I have all the apps I used in Windows, and not to mention a *nix command line.

I used to hate apple fan boys.

Azoy? 12-09-2007 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 13489349)
Bullshit. I personally broke the express card slot in my macbook pro while fucking around with my datacard. Totally my fault. I made a phone call to apple support about it... They had me take it to a authorized service center that day and over nighted the part. The guys had the machine back in my hand and working perfect the next day and no charge.

i guess you were lucky or the person on the phone liked your voice cause it's not only me.
speaking to a few people they shared my feelings that Apple's service and more so with the IPOD is "yeah we'll service you but you lucky we are"

Godsmack 12-09-2007 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by qxm (Post 13489363)
build the pc yourself, then install a triple boot system (XP/Vista-Ubuntu-Mac Leopard)....more bang 4 your buck....

If you buy a notebook, format it and install a triple boot sys. Case closed.....

although you can install OSX on a PC it will not work fully until you have exact same hardware as the Mac..

Gerco 12-09-2007 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Azoy? (Post 13490238)
i guess you were lucky or the person on the phone liked your voice cause it's not only me.
speaking to a few people they shared my feelings that Apple's service and more so with the IPOD is "yeah we'll service you but you lucky we are"

Guess they love me then... Issue number 2 was ANOTHER issue that I totally caused. Again on my Macbook Pro, but this time it was even out of warranty.

I was messing around in the Unix command prompt, using SU and I don't know a damn think about Unix... (Trying to learn) and I ran a command that fucked up my OS. Off the top of my head I don't even remember what it was... anyways, it left me with a unbootable machine... That OPPPPPS I had for got to backup in about a month. MAde an appointment at the "genius" bar Fired up "disk warrior" and made a Firewire HD clone of my machines main drive to keep anything I had not backed up before, Thinking that I could at least manually restore later... and took the thing in, they reloaded the OS on top of itself, and The machine was fine. Did not need to reinstall anything. (my original system disks were 2 years old and I needed the current OS)

My point? They did this again for free. No hassle, no whining... just took care of it and saved me a ton of time and work.

I keep a bootable 80 gig USB2 Iomega external HD now copied via Diskwarrior, so if I ever do something stupid again it just a matter of firing up the diskwarrior CD and re "Ghosting" my main system Dive. (I have a 250 Lacie firewire drive doing the same on my Imac.) Cheap security. Plus if I really wanted to I can toss the Drives into my laptop case and simply plug it into anyone elses mac, boot to it and I have my full system right there.

(You can also do this with Ipods)

3Rd Case... I was out dropped my battery for my macbook. (I had it out cause I was looking up the serial number before I realize that this can be done within the Os duh) anyway.. It dented the battery and put quite a few scratches in it. Apple gave me a new one just for asking. I walked up the the genius bar, didn't even have an appointment this time, just happen to only be a few blocks from the place, and they took a look at the battery and simply reached under the desk and grabbed a new one for me. No Charge again.

You can say they must have like my voice or what ever... but here are 3 different examples that I have personally dealt with, each with different people including the phone support and had no hassle what so ever, in fact, they went way above board, as the last 2 times they could have charged me for the out of warranty service but didn't.

Are there hassles, sure... I dont like the fact that you pretty much have to have an Ipod or Iphone serviced to replace the battery... But than again, I usually stay on top of things and I would most likely be replacing those type of devices well before the batteries ever gave up the ghost.

From personal experience Mac's have me as a customer for life.

jakethedog 12-09-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeS (Post 13484101)
Do you use a Mac or PC and why?

If you're a PC user would you consider switching to a Mac?

Is Vista basically the same thing as a Mac now that both systems use an Intel chipset?

What do you think?


I just spit up a bit in my mouth when I read this .. I was a PC guy through and through for 11 years ... loved and swore by them . knew all the in's and out's .. built and truly trusted my PC's ..4 months ago .. I got a Vista installed PC just to keep up with the jones .. well let me tell you .. NEVER AGAIN will I ever in my life go back .. I got a beautiful 17" MACBook Pro bumped it up a bit .. 4Gb ram .. am able to run XP Pro on it through "Vuse" if i need to do any .exe file applications .. but truth be told .. after the week or so of getting used to some of the awesome functions .. this i buy far superior to any PC i have ever had ...faster ..smoother .. no hicups .. no waiting .. no problems what so ever .. I feel like i was in the dark about what and how my computers ran .."Oh this PC is screeming . " no way .. MAC absolutely kills PC no question .. I have and am doing everything i can to switch every one in my company over .. to MAC .. just my opinion ..

gingy 12-09-2007 01:19 PM

the same shit over last 20 years... maybe time to make something new?


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