Netcape 9 comes with Gator installed. - GoFuckYourself.com

Zebra · 12-07-2007, 03:01 PM

Had a surfer email us saying he couldn't get to one of our sites. He said he was using Netscape 9. I did some testing and found out that Netscape 9 comes with Gator installed. Gator is one of the adware programs we redirect to a adware/spyware removal page. Netscape users are less than 1% of our traffic so I'm not worried about it.
I'm surprised that a browser that used to be the big boy on the web is now including Gator without alerting surfers before they download it. I guess when they are such a small % compared to IE and Firefox they will resort to this to make money.

CyberHustler · 12-07-2007, 03:03 PM

uno · 12-07-2007, 03:05 PM

Didn't AOL buy them a LONGGGGGG time ago?

Snake Doctor · 12-07-2007, 03:06 PM

I'm sure they alert the surfers, but nobody ever reads the terms or any shit like that...they just accept the default install and keep clicking "yes, yes, yes"

Zebra · 12-07-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

I'm sure they alert the surfers, but nobody ever reads the terms or any shit like that...they just accept the default install and keep clicking "yes, yes, yes"

On the Netscape main page there is a DOWNLOAD link with no terms or any info on what is in it. Once you start the install there is a License Agreement. Nowhere in it does it say Gator is included.

This is the closest info I see and it is pretty vague:

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21. ELECTRONIC NOTICES.

YOU AGREE TO THIS LICENSE ELECTRONICALLY. YOU AUTHORIZE US TO PROVIE YOU ANY INFORMATION AND NOTICES REGARDING THE SOFTWARE ("NOTICES") IN ELECTRONIC FORM. WE MAY PROVIDE NOTICES TO YOU (1) VIA E-MAIL IF YOU HAVE PROVIDED US WITH A VALID EMAIL ADDRESS OR (2) BY POSTING THE NOTICE ON A WEBSITE DESIGNATED BY US FOR THIS PURPOSE. The delivery of any Notice is effective when sent or posted by us, regardless of whether you read the Notice or actually receive the delivery. You can withdraw your consent to receive Notices electronically by discontinuing your use of the Software. As long as you are able to access the Internet using the Software, you will be able to receive electronic notices from us.

I do find this section very amusing:

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19. HIGH RISK ACTIVITIES. The Software is not fault-tolerant and is not designed, manufactured or intended for use in environments in which its failure could lead directly to death, personal injury, or severe physical or environmental damage, such as in the operation of nuclear facilities, aircraft navigation or communication systems, air traffic control, direct life support machines, or weapons systems ("High Risk Activities").

fuzebox · 12-07-2007, 03:28 PM

The Mozilla foundation (group behind the open source development of Firefox) was started by Netscape and shares a lot of developers. In essence, Netscape still funds a lot of Firefox development.

Shrug.

kektex · 12-07-2007, 03:44 PM

I highly doubt Netscape has scumware installed.
Where did he download it from??

SmokeyTheBear · 12-07-2007, 08:46 PM

i just downloaded it to check , no gator here

GrouchyAdmin · 12-07-2007, 08:50 PM

Someone probably bundled it within their own installer and called it something like 'getnetscape.com' for the $0.75/install they get.

Probably somebody on this board.

Zebra · 12-07-2007, 10:05 PM

doh! I know why it was getting redirected to our adware/spyware removal page.
navigator

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} seekmo|hotbar|hbtools|isearch|gator|whenU|funweb|funwebproducts [NC]

The user agent string = Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.10pre) Gecko/20071127 Firefox/2.0.0.10 Navigator/9.0.0.4

It hasn't been called Navigator since version 3. They just went back to it for version 9. That is why it has been working with older versions.

Sometimes you look so hard for the complicated stuff that you miss the easy stuff right in front of you.

SmokeyTheBear · 12-08-2007, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Zebra

doh! I know why it was getting redirected to our adware/spyware removal page.
navigator

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} seekmo|hotbar|hbtools|isearch|gator|whenU|funweb|funwebproducts [NC]

The user agent string = Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.10pre) Gecko/20071127 Firefox/2.0.0.10 Navigator/9.0.0.4

It hasn't been called Navigator since version 3. They just went back to it for version 9. That is why it has been working with older versions.

Sometimes you look so hard for the complicated stuff that you miss the easy stuff right in front of you.

lol why didnt i think of that..

ps you might wanna add the megarotic toolbar on that too "megarotic"

Zebra · 12-08-2007, 01:13 AM

Amazing how many things there are that we have to protect ourselves against. It's like playing Whack-A-Mole!

GrouchyAdmin · 12-08-2007, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Zebra

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} seekmo|hotbar|hbtools|isearch|gator|whenU|funweb|funwebproducts

Killing on user agent is such a bad idea. I didn't know anybody was doing that, anymore.

thonglife · 12-08-2007, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Killing on user agent is such a bad idea. I didn't know anybody was doing that, anymore.

Yeah it is.. Funwebproducts is fucking huge man.

Catalyst · 12-08-2007, 01:48 AM

damn.. learn something ever day..

12-07-2007, 03:01 PM	#1
Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,090	Netcape 9 comes with Gator installed. Had a surfer email us saying he couldn't get to one of our sites. He said he was using Netscape 9. I did some testing and found out that Netscape 9 comes with Gator installed. Gator is one of the adware programs we redirect to a adware/spyware removal page. Netscape users are less than 1% of our traffic so I'm not worried about it. I'm surprised that a browser that used to be the big boy on the web is now including Gator without alerting surfers before they download it. I guess when they are such a small % compared to IE and Firefox they will resort to this to make money. __________________ Old School

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12-07-2007, 08:50 PM	#9
GrouchyAdmin Now choke yourself! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 12,085	Someone probably bundled it within their own installer and called it something like 'getnetscape.com' for the $0.75/install they get. Probably somebody on this board. __________________ AIM: GrouchyGfy

12-07-2007, 10:05 PM	#10
Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,090	doh! I know why it was getting redirected to our adware/spyware removal page. navigator RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} seekmo\|hotbar\|hbtools\|isearch\|gator\|whenU\|funweb\|funwebproducts [NC] The user agent string = Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.10pre) Gecko/20071127 Firefox/2.0.0.10 Navigator/9.0.0.4 It hasn't been called Navigator since version 3. They just went back to it for version 9. That is why it has been working with older versions. Sometimes you look so hard for the complicated stuff that you miss the easy stuff right in front of you. __________________ Old School

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12-07-2007, 03:06 PM	#4
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	I'm sure they alert the surfers, but nobody ever reads the terms or any shit like that...they just accept the default install and keep clicking "yes, yes, yes"

12-07-2007, 03:28 PM	#6
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 21,676	The Mozilla foundation (group behind the open source development of Firefox) was started by Netscape and shares a lot of developers. In essence, Netscape still funds a lot of Firefox development. Shrug.

12-07-2007, 03:44 PM	#7
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12-08-2007, 01:13 AM	#12
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12-08-2007, 01:48 AM	#15
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