Adult Friend Finder Offers FSC Matching Grant to Battle 2257 Changes - GoFuckYourself.com

Xenophage · 06-18-2007, 07:56 AM

We are helping to raise $20,000 in addition to our normal yearly sponsorship of the FSC, we belive that 2257 is good in principal but the implementation of it does not work. Please help donate to this great effort to stop the new implementations of 2257, many people have forgotten this issue but it is a very very large issue and you continued support is needed.

PALO ALTO, Calif. - Sexual networking site AdultFriendFinder.com has offered a grant to the Free Speech Coalition that will match donations up to $10,000 made to the organization in aid of its fight against certain amendments to the 18 U.S.C. § 2257 record-keeping statute.

The amendments being challenged are those that, if made effective by the Department of Justice, would require so-called "secondary producers" to acquire and maintain records for every performer in every sexually explicit image used by that producer.

AFF marketing director Legendary Lars, in a press release about the new matching grant, called this provision a "draconian" one that "goes way beyond what is acceptable in a free society."

"The only organization actively fighting this provision is the Free Speech Coalition," Lars went on, "and we think they deserve support. Anyone concerned with first amendment rights and keeping the government out of our bedrooms should consider a contribution to help FSC in their 2257 battle."

FSC executive director Diane Duke noted that these addendums to the 2257 law would subject "secondary producers" to inspections by the FBI, as well. "Complying with the anticipated changes in the law would cost millions of dollars in additional staffing, filing and computer resources," Duke portended, "apart from the cost of defending prosecutions. We will challenge these changes to the law, but we need the industry's help."

For information on contributing, go to freespeechcoalition.com.

scottybuzz · 06-18-2007, 08:00 AM

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seeric · 06-18-2007, 08:05 AM

having been through one of these 2257 inspections i can tell you that if you have your stuff in order then you have nothing to worry about. theres still a long way to go as far as secondary producers are concerned but its no big deal at all if you just have your shit together. we're a primary producer and it was easy. everyone should be taking it serious and taking the steps to be compliant. they are going to keep going thats for sure so might as well not wait until the last minute. take actions now to protect your businesses and lively hoods.

Aussie Rebel · 06-18-2007, 08:07 AM

How bout donating to the Adult industry and stop this sort of shit

Xenophage · 06-18-2007, 09:14 AM

Lets get some donations going !!! Who is first UP !!

baddog · 06-18-2007, 09:51 AM

bump for a great cause

baddog · 06-18-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel

How bout donating to the Adult industry and stop this sort of shit

why are you surfing for child porn? isn't that kind of dangerous?

Aussie Rebel · 06-18-2007, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

why are you surfing for child porn? isn't that kind of dangerous?

It's actually a repost of someone elses, do you agree with that type of marketing?

fris · 06-18-2007, 10:08 AM

lets keep the AFF trashing out of this thread, this is for a good cause, start your own thread if you want to bash AFF or Lars

ffblueocean · 06-18-2007, 10:08 AM

bumping for the cause!

g$$$ · 06-18-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Fris

lets keep the AFF trashing out of this thread, this is for a good cause, start your own thread if you want to bash AFF or Lars

this is excellent!

tony286 · 06-18-2007, 10:11 AM

God Lars you are so transparent,anymore so you would be made of glass.lol

Penny24Seven · 06-18-2007, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

seeeeeeeeeeeee siiiiggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

sig whore noted

SmokeyTheBear · 06-18-2007, 10:16 AM

ill donate 10% of my YEARLY income if lars steps up and matches it with 10% of his yearly income

baddog · 06-18-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel

It's actually a repost of someone elses, do you agree with that type of marketing?

Well, number one, I was told by someone recently that their ads had been pulled from some torrent spy(?) site. So I don't know how accurate your accusation is.

Number two, I am not sure why you feel the need to bash AFF in every thread.

I think Lars should start a pool on who will be the guaranteed haters in any thread he starts and use that money to donate to FSC or ASACP.

SmokeyTheBear · 06-18-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I think Lars should start a pool on who will be the guaranteed haters in any thread he starts.

its a safe bet anyone who doesnt appreciate their ads next to child porn torrents will prob always have a problem with them

Damian_Maxcash · 06-18-2007, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

its a safe bet anyone who doesnt appreciate their ads next to child porn torrents will prob always have a problem with them

lol - I won!

Aussie Rebel · 06-18-2007, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Well, number one, I was told by someone recently that their ads had been pulled from some torrent spy(?) site. So I don't know how accurate your accusation is.

Number two, I am not sure why you feel the need to bash AFF in every thread.

I think Lars should start a pool on who will be the guaranteed haters in any thread he starts and use that money to donate to FSC or ASACP.

Baddog I know that you are a smart man, surely you can see why he is making these donations, he even admitted in the ASACP thread that he did it to help his companies image, it seems funny AFF has the spotlight on them and 2 weeks in a row he makes donations to great causes

Damian_Maxcash · 06-18-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel

Baddog I know that you are a smart man, surely you can see why he is making these donations, he even admitted in the ASACP thread that he did it to help his companies image, it seems funny AFF has the spotlight on them and 2 weeks in a row he makes donations to great causes

I may have missed something - but didn't Lars say he was working on pulling all ads from pages on Torrent sites that even had a hint of CP on them - even if it wasn't actually CP?

Of course we wouldn't want the facts to get in the way of some good drama.

Sean · 06-18-2007, 10:52 AM

can the haters start their own thread, or do they need lars's voice to be heard

tony286 · 06-18-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Irish Pimp

can the haters start their own thread, or do they need lars's voice to be heard

Haters? Aff ads are on pages giving away my content for free and I am a hater, that's funny.

»Rob Content« · 06-18-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

I may have missed something - but didn't Lars say he was working on pulling all ads from pages on Torrent sites that even had a hint of CP on them - even if it wasn't actually CP?

Of course we wouldn't want the facts to get in the way of some good drama.

If you were REALLY serious about fighting CP, and supporting ASACP, wouldn't it make sense to have your ads removed from sites that carry CP or suggested CP until that site could guarantee that your banners would not appear to anything that could be remotely close to CP?

Why keep it up and appear on those pages when you could pull your ads, and make a stand and say we will not appear on anything that may be CP and will not have our links there?

Waiting for them to do something is a bit odd to me, when you have the power to not appear on those pages and you put it on someone else to make it happen...

Why pass it off onto someone else?

I mean if fighting CP was that important...

»Rob Content« · 06-18-2007, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Well, number one, I was told by someone recently that their ads had been pulled from some torrent spy(?) site. So I don't know how accurate your accusation is.

Number two, I am not sure why you feel the need to bash AFF in every thread.

I think Lars should start a pool on who will be the guaranteed haters in any thread he starts and use that money to donate to FSC or ASACP.

Your reliable source is Stickyfingers lol. He proved a lot this past weekend about his stance.

And no the ads are not pulled, I posted screencaps of them in that same thread.

Sean · 06-18-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Haters? Aff ads are on pages giving away my content for free and I am a hater, that's funny.

then start a thread on your own. this thread is about FSC

Damian_Maxcash · 06-18-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by VG.Content

If you were REALLY serious about fighting CP, and supporting ASACP, wouldn't it make sense to have your ads removed from sites that carry CP or suggested CP until that site could guarantee that your banners would not appear to anything that could be remotely close to CP?.........

You mean like Google, MSN, Yahoo, Ask.com, Any Site That Supports Lighspeed, Teen Rev. - of course I could go on.

Lar's said he would pull ads from pages that had anything to do with CP - OF COURSE it will not happen over night (You are are stupid if you think it can happen) - but I have no reason to doubt him - have you?

baddog · 06-18-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel

Baddog I know that you are a smart man, surely you can see why he is making these donations, he even admitted in the ASACP thread that he did it to help his companies image, it seems funny AFF has the spotlight on them and 2 weeks in a row he makes donations to great causes

hmmm, doesn't every company/individual make public donations to help their image?

I am pretty sure they have been sending money to both FSC and ASACP prior to the last two weeks.

Brujah · 06-18-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

I may have missed something - but didn't Lars say he was working on pulling all ads from pages on Torrent sites that even had a hint of CP on them - even if it wasn't actually CP?

Of course we wouldn't want the facts to get in the way of some good drama.

Nope. He said he was working on having the ads removed from the pages that contained CP. The rest of the torrent sites pages were ok. Summary? Working with sites that distribute CP is still ok, as long as the ads aren't put on the CP pages.

Brujah · 06-18-2007, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

You mean like Google, MSN, Yahoo, Ask.com, Any Site That Supports Lighspeed, Teen Rev. - of course I could go on.

Lar's said he would pull ads from pages that had anything to do with CP - OF COURSE it will not happen over night (You are are stupid if you think it can happen) - but I have no reason to doubt him - have you?

The imagecash account was pulled in less than 24 hours. Torrentz is more difficult?

What happens when defenders like yourself start trying to make sense and debate in threads like this? You keep fueling posts like this one from people more than eager to debate the issue, which in turn distracts and dilutes the purpose of the thread. Can't you just realize this and go post in the other topics instead so that this one doesn't keep giving people off-topic things to respond to?

Damian_Maxcash · 06-18-2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

.......Working with sites that distribute CP is still ok, as long as the ads aren't put on the CP pages.

Like Google etc.?

Damian_Maxcash · 06-18-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

The imagecash account was pulled in less than 24 hours. Torrentz is more difficult?

What happens when defenders like yourself start trying to make sense and debate in threads like this? You keep fueling posts like this one from people more than eager to debate the issue, which in turn distracts and dilutes the purpose of the thread. Can't you just realize this and go post in the other topics instead so that this one doesn't keep giving people off-topic things to respond to?

So threads where you disagree with my point of view should be ignored or left to others that only share your view?

What a warped view you have of GFY......

»Rob Content« · 06-18-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

You mean like Google, MSN, Yahoo, Ask.com, Any Site That Supports Lighspeed, Teen Rev. - of course I could go on.

Lar's said he would pull ads from pages that had anything to do with CP - OF COURSE it will not happen over night (You are are stupid if you think it can happen) - but I have no reason to doubt him - have you?

Search engines are an entire different beast.

Right now AFF ads appear next to these links:

videogregg.com/i/read.txt

Within a matter of 10 minutes AFF could pull ads from these torrent sites and say once you've fixed the issue let us know and you can carry our ads again.

A search engine is a very different beast.

It's easy to have ONE site pull your stuff until it's proper.

I am not speaking about search engines, I am speaking about torrent sites right now.

You have no reason to doubt him.. do I?

Yes I do, he's been aware of these ads being on torrent sites for months now, and they are still there. How long does it take to fix an issue that could be taken care of in 10 minutes?

Brujah · 06-18-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

So threads where you disagree with my point of view should be ignored or left to others that only share your view?

What a warped view you have of GFY......

You're one of the dumbest people here. You were posting in this thread long before I arrived. I don't disagree with AFF donating to FSC. Someone else made a thread about this and I congratulated them and thanked them. I can still do that, while disagreeing with YOUR posts.

You haven't said anything insightful, or even intelligent. You're just the new idiot, fueling this bonfire and witchhunt. You're the great defender pissing all over the good cause thread.. and inviting others to come piss all over it with you.

There are other threads about this Torrent, CP, etc.. topic that you could continue this exact same debate in. Why don't you use them? Why focus on this one? Because you don't realize what you're doing to it. Dumbass.

Penny24Seven · 06-18-2007, 12:10 PM

Lars needs this more then anything, his whole site would be screwed if he had to have 2257 info for every nude girl on his site. I think it has more to do to help him then worry about his image. He has shown he is not worried about that

Damian_Maxcash · 06-18-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

You're one of the dumbest people here. You were posting in this thread long before I arrived. I don't disagree with AFF donating to FSC. Someone else made a thread about this and I congratulated them and thanked them. I can still do that, while disagreeing with YOUR posts.

You haven't said anything insightful, or even intelligent. You're just the new idiot, fueling this bonfire and witchhunt. You're the great defender pissing all over the good cause thread.. and inviting others to come piss all over it with you.

There are other threads about this Torrent, CP, etc.. topic that you could continue this exact same debate in. Why don't you use them? Why focus on this one? Because you don't realize what you're doing to it. Dumbass.

I was responding to a post by VG.Content or whatever his fake nick is. Read the whole thread for fucks sake. You of all people must see the big picture here.

Brujah · 06-18-2007, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

I was responding to a post by VG.Content or whatever his fake nick is. Read the whole thread for fucks sake. You of all people must see the big picture here.

That's why I'm just saying.. please IGNORE them (VG/Aussie/etc) in THIS thread. There are lots of others to beat each other up in. If you ignore them (and me) in this thread, we'd have had no one to argue with. Let's go continue it in a thread with Juicy's new thong instead.

Damian_Maxcash · 06-18-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

That's why I'm just saying.. please IGNORE them (VG/Aussie/etc) in THIS thread. There are lots of others to beat each other up in. If you ignore them (and me) in this thread, we'd have had no one to argue with. Let's go continue it in a thread with Juicy's new thong instead.

Juicy's got a new thong? - Where is it - I want pics?

»Rob Content« · 06-18-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

I was responding to a post by VG.Content or whatever his fake nick is. Read the whole thread for fucks sake. You of all people must see the big picture here.

Hi sorry, I'm not a fake nick, I do business with a lot of people here, I can have them contact you for reference if you like.

And of course you just like Lars and everyone else ignore my questions and they go unanswered.

You only reply to the ones you have a reply to, and ignore the others.

»Rob Content« · 06-18-2007, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

That's why I'm just saying.. please IGNORE them (VG/Aussie/etc) in THIS thread. There are lots of others to beat each other up in. If you ignore them (and me) in this thread, we'd have had no one to argue with. Let's go continue it in a thread with Juicy's new thong instead.

I appreciate you bringing up questions here as well, but please don't ask people to ignore me. I am not doing the name calling or anything else. I am trying to get valid answers to very valid questions.

tony286 · 06-18-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish Pimp

then start a thread on your own. this thread is about FSC

No its about AFF hiding behind the FSC, what charity is it going to be next week the united way?

Marshal · 06-18-2007, 01:27 PM

huh, this thread is gonna be huuuuge!

Sean · 06-18-2007, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

No its about AFF hiding behind the FSC, what charity is it going to be next week the united way?

well name your favorite charity and we will talk about it. but you have to donate also

crockett · 06-18-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

having been through one of these 2257 inspections i can tell you that if you have your stuff in order then you have nothing to worry about. theres still a long way to go as far as secondary producers are concerned but its no big deal at all if you just have your shit together. we're a primary producer and it was easy. everyone should be taking it serious and taking the steps to be compliant. they are going to keep going thats for sure so might as well not wait until the last minute. take actions now to protect your businesses and lively hoods.

Well that's easy to say as a program manager. However try to look at it from an affiliates POV. We don't get access to the 2257 info like you do when you buy content.

So the secondary producer issue is a big thing to a TGP or or style of free site operators.

Sean · 06-18-2007, 04:24 PM

anyone going to step up for FSC?

Xenophage · 06-18-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Well that's easy to say as a program manager. However try to look at it from an affiliates POV. We don't get access to the 2257 info like you do when you buy content.

So the secondary producer issue is a big thing to a TGP or or style of free site operators.

Agreed and as a person who started out with a small free site I GET IT

So for all our affilaites out there we are jumping in and stepping up !

baddog · 06-18-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by VG.Content

ask people to ignore me

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/profil...ignore&u=83806

DatingGold · 06-18-2007, 05:10 PM

I think it's great you are donating and we will probably due the same soon.

Xenophage · 06-18-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DatingGold

I think it's great you are donating and we will probably due the same soon.

Wooohoooooo Right on Allan !!!!

I got more post than you neener neener neener

But you have a nicer car so I guess we are even LOL

»Rob Content« · 06-18-2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/profil...ignore&u=83806

Coming from the guy who has yet to reply to any questions I've asked him

Xenophage · 06-19-2007, 08:04 AM

lets see some donations for a great effort by the FSC

Elli · 06-19-2007, 09:31 AM

Bump for the FSC! I have their penguin on my desk this morning!

06-18-2007, 07:56 AM	#1
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	Adult Friend Finder Offers FSC Matching Grant to Battle 2257 Changes We are helping to raise $20,000 in addition to our normal yearly sponsorship of the FSC, we belive that 2257 is good in principal but the implementation of it does not work. Please help donate to this great effort to stop the new implementations of 2257, many people have forgotten this issue but it is a very very large issue and you continued support is needed. PALO ALTO, Calif. - Sexual networking site AdultFriendFinder.com has offered a grant to the Free Speech Coalition that will match donations up to $10,000 made to the organization in aid of its fight against certain amendments to the 18 U.S.C. § 2257 record-keeping statute. The amendments being challenged are those that, if made effective by the Department of Justice, would require so-called "secondary producers" to acquire and maintain records for every performer in every sexually explicit image used by that producer. AFF marketing director Legendary Lars, in a press release about the new matching grant, called this provision a "draconian" one that "goes way beyond what is acceptable in a free society." "The only organization actively fighting this provision is the Free Speech Coalition," Lars went on, "and we think they deserve support. Anyone concerned with first amendment rights and keeping the government out of our bedrooms should consider a contribution to help FSC in their 2257 battle." FSC executive director Diane Duke noted that these addendums to the 2257 law would subject "secondary producers" to inspections by the FBI, as well. "Complying with the anticipated changes in the law would cost millions of dollars in additional staffing, filing and computer resources," Duke portended, "apart from the cost of defending prosecutions. We will challenge these changes to the law, but we need the industry's help." For information on contributing, go to freespeechcoalition.com.

06-18-2007, 08:00 AM	#2
scottybuzz Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Location: NY Posts: 14,800	seeeeeeeeeeeee siiiiggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg __________________ $$$$$ MAKE HUGE MONEY IN CAMS - CLICK HERE $$$$$

06-18-2007, 10:08 AM	#10
ffblueocean Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 231	bumping for the cause! __________________ Yahoo/MSN/AIM: ffBlueOcean & ICQ: 399115822

06-18-2007, 10:16 AM	#14
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	ill donate 10% of my YEARLY income if lars steps up and matches it with 10% of his yearly income __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

06-18-2007, 10:52 AM	#20
Sean revolutionforce.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i moved from an ICQ box to a Skype box. left the skype box for a telegram box Posts: 2,909	can the haters start their own thread, or do they need lars's voice to be heard __________________ -sean skype: sean.a.christian sean @ revolutionforce.com

06-18-2007, 08:05 AM	#3
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	having been through one of these 2257 inspections i can tell you that if you have your stuff in order then you have nothing to worry about. theres still a long way to go as far as secondary producers are concerned but its no big deal at all if you just have your shit together. we're a primary producer and it was easy. everyone should be taking it serious and taking the steps to be compliant. they are going to keep going thats for sure so might as well not wait until the last minute. take actions now to protect your businesses and lively hoods.

06-18-2007, 08:07 AM	#4
Aussie Rebel Blow Me U Geeks Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maximum Security Posts: 5,108	How bout donating to the Adult industry and stop this sort of shit

06-18-2007, 09:14 AM	#5
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	Lets get some donations going !!! Who is first UP !!

06-18-2007, 09:51 AM	#6
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	bump for a great cause

06-18-2007, 10:08 AM	#9
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	lets keep the AFF trashing out of this thread, this is for a good cause, start your own thread if you want to bash AFF or Lars

06-18-2007, 10:11 AM	#12
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	God Lars you are so transparent,anymore so you would be made of glass.lol

06-18-2007, 12:10 PM	#33
Penny24Seven So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 6,287	Lars needs this more then anything, his whole site would be screwed if he had to have 2257 info for every nude girl on his site. I think it has more to do to help him then worry about his image. He has shown he is not worried about that __________________ Our site is coming soon. It will be one of the best ever! I know so. Brian and Penny

06-18-2007, 01:27 PM	#40
Marshal Biz Dev and SEO Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 15,180	huh, this thread is gonna be huuuuge! __________________ --- Busy ranking websites on Google...

06-18-2007, 04:24 PM	#43
Sean revolutionforce.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i moved from an ICQ box to a Skype box. left the skype box for a telegram box Posts: 2,909	anyone going to step up for FSC? __________________ -sean skype: sean.a.christian sean @ revolutionforce.com

06-18-2007, 05:10 PM	#46
DatingGold $6 PER EMAIL JOiN Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: California Posts: 13,185	I think it's great you are donating and we will probably due the same soon. __________________ 9 Years of SOLID payouts and conversions! ADULT DATING - $100 PPS LIVE CAMS - $214 PPS WWW.DATINGGOLD.COM ICQ: 27442303

06-19-2007, 08:04 AM	#49
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	lets see some donations for a great effort by the FSC

06-19-2007, 09:31 AM	#50
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	Bump for the FSC! I have their penguin on my desk this morning! __________________ email: [email protected]