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Xenophage 06-18-2007 07:56 AM

Adult Friend Finder Offers FSC Matching Grant to Battle 2257 Changes
 
We are helping to raise $20,000 in addition to our normal yearly sponsorship of the FSC, we belive that 2257 is good in principal but the implementation of it does not work. Please help donate to this great effort to stop the new implementations of 2257, many people have forgotten this issue but it is a very very large issue and you continued support is needed.


PALO ALTO, Calif. - Sexual networking site AdultFriendFinder.com has offered a grant to the Free Speech Coalition that will match donations up to $10,000 made to the organization in aid of its fight against certain amendments to the 18 U.S.C. § 2257 record-keeping statute.


The amendments being challenged are those that, if made effective by the Department of Justice, would require so-called "secondary producers" to acquire and maintain records for every performer in every sexually explicit image used by that producer.

AFF marketing director Legendary Lars, in a press release about the new matching grant, called this provision a "draconian" one that "goes way beyond what is acceptable in a free society."

"The only organization actively fighting this provision is the Free Speech Coalition," Lars went on, "and we think they deserve support. Anyone concerned with first amendment rights and keeping the government out of our bedrooms should consider a contribution to help FSC in their 2257 battle."

FSC executive director Diane Duke noted that these addendums to the 2257 law would subject "secondary producers" to inspections by the FBI, as well. "Complying with the anticipated changes in the law would cost millions of dollars in additional staffing, filing and computer resources," Duke portended, "apart from the cost of defending prosecutions. We will challenge these changes to the law, but we need the industry's help."

For information on contributing, go to freespeechcoalition.com.

scottybuzz 06-18-2007 08:00 AM

seeeeeeeeeeeee siiiiggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

seeric 06-18-2007 08:05 AM

having been through one of these 2257 inspections i can tell you that if you have your stuff in order then you have nothing to worry about. theres still a long way to go as far as secondary producers are concerned but its no big deal at all if you just have your shit together. we're a primary producer and it was easy. everyone should be taking it serious and taking the steps to be compliant. they are going to keep going thats for sure so might as well not wait until the last minute. take actions now to protect your businesses and lively hoods.

Aussie Rebel 06-18-2007 08:07 AM

http://tampatoker.smugmug.com/photos/162381619-L.jpg

How bout donating to the Adult industry and stop this sort of shit

Xenophage 06-18-2007 09:14 AM

Lets get some donations going !!! Who is first UP !!

baddog 06-18-2007 09:51 AM

bump for a great cause

baddog 06-18-2007 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel (Post 12617340)
http://tampatoker.smugmug.com/photos/162381619-L.jpg

How bout donating to the Adult industry and stop this sort of shit

why are you surfing for child porn? isn't that kind of dangerous?

Aussie Rebel 06-18-2007 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12617975)
why are you surfing for child porn? isn't that kind of dangerous?

It's actually a repost of someone elses, do you agree with that type of marketing?

fris 06-18-2007 10:08 AM

lets keep the AFF trashing out of this thread, this is for a good cause, start your own thread if you want to bash AFF or Lars

ffblueocean 06-18-2007 10:08 AM

bumping for the cause!

g$$$ 06-18-2007 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris (Post 12618047)
lets keep the AFF trashing out of this thread, this is for a good cause, start your own thread if you want to bash AFF or Lars

:thumbsup:thumbsup

this is excellent! :pimp

tony286 06-18-2007 10:11 AM

God Lars you are so transparent,anymore so you would be made of glass.lol

Penny24Seven 06-18-2007 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 12617311)
seeeeeeeeeeeee siiiiggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

sig whore noted

SmokeyTheBear 06-18-2007 10:16 AM

ill donate 10% of my YEARLY income if lars steps up and matches it with 10% of his yearly income

baddog 06-18-2007 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel (Post 12618020)
It's actually a repost of someone elses, do you agree with that type of marketing?

Well, number one, I was told by someone recently that their ads had been pulled from some torrent spy(?) site. So I don't know how accurate your accusation is.

Number two, I am not sure why you feel the need to bash AFF in every thread.

I think Lars should start a pool on who will be the guaranteed haters in any thread he starts and use that money to donate to FSC or ASACP.

SmokeyTheBear 06-18-2007 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12618201)
I think Lars should start a pool on who will be the guaranteed haters in any thread he starts.

its a safe bet anyone who doesnt appreciate their ads next to child porn torrents will prob always have a problem with them

Damian_Maxcash 06-18-2007 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 12618233)
its a safe bet anyone who doesnt appreciate their ads next to child porn torrents will prob always have a problem with them

lol - I won! :)

Aussie Rebel 06-18-2007 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12618201)
Well, number one, I was told by someone recently that their ads had been pulled from some torrent spy(?) site. So I don't know how accurate your accusation is.

Number two, I am not sure why you feel the need to bash AFF in every thread.

I think Lars should start a pool on who will be the guaranteed haters in any thread he starts and use that money to donate to FSC or ASACP.

Baddog I know that you are a smart man, surely you can see why he is making these donations, he even admitted in the ASACP thread that he did it to help his companies image, it seems funny AFF has the spotlight on them and 2 weeks in a row he makes donations to great causes

Damian_Maxcash 06-18-2007 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel (Post 12618244)
Baddog I know that you are a smart man, surely you can see why he is making these donations, he even admitted in the ASACP thread that he did it to help his companies image, it seems funny AFF has the spotlight on them and 2 weeks in a row he makes donations to great causes

I may have missed something - but didn't Lars say he was working on pulling all ads from pages on Torrent sites that even had a hint of CP on them - even if it wasn't actually CP?

Of course we wouldn't want the facts to get in the way of some good drama.

Sean 06-18-2007 10:52 AM

can the haters start their own thread, or do they need lars's voice to be heard

tony286 06-18-2007 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp (Post 12618359)
can the haters start their own thread, or do they need lars's voice to be heard

Haters? Aff ads are on pages giving away my content for free and I am a hater, that's funny.

»Rob Content« 06-18-2007 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001 (Post 12618343)
I may have missed something - but didn't Lars say he was working on pulling all ads from pages on Torrent sites that even had a hint of CP on them - even if it wasn't actually CP?

Of course we wouldn't want the facts to get in the way of some good drama.

If you were REALLY serious about fighting CP, and supporting ASACP, wouldn't it make sense to have your ads removed from sites that carry CP or suggested CP until that site could guarantee that your banners would not appear to anything that could be remotely close to CP?

Why keep it up and appear on those pages when you could pull your ads, and make a stand and say we will not appear on anything that may be CP and will not have our links there?

Waiting for them to do something is a bit odd to me, when you have the power to not appear on those pages and you put it on someone else to make it happen...

Why pass it off onto someone else?

I mean if fighting CP was that important...

»Rob Content« 06-18-2007 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12618201)
Well, number one, I was told by someone recently that their ads had been pulled from some torrent spy(?) site. So I don't know how accurate your accusation is.

Number two, I am not sure why you feel the need to bash AFF in every thread.

I think Lars should start a pool on who will be the guaranteed haters in any thread he starts and use that money to donate to FSC or ASACP.

Your reliable source is Stickyfingers lol. He proved a lot this past weekend about his stance.

And no the ads are not pulled, I posted screencaps of them in that same thread.

Sean 06-18-2007 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 12618441)
Haters? Aff ads are on pages giving away my content for free and I am a hater, that's funny.

then start a thread on your own. this thread is about FSC

Damian_Maxcash 06-18-2007 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VG.Content (Post 12618590)
If you were REALLY serious about fighting CP, and supporting ASACP, wouldn't it make sense to have your ads removed from sites that carry CP or suggested CP until that site could guarantee that your banners would not appear to anything that could be remotely close to CP?.........

You mean like Google, MSN, Yahoo, Ask.com, Any Site That Supports Lighspeed, Teen Rev. - of course I could go on.

Lar's said he would pull ads from pages that had anything to do with CP - OF COURSE it will not happen over night (You are are stupid if you think it can happen) - but I have no reason to doubt him - have you?

baddog 06-18-2007 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel (Post 12618244)
Baddog I know that you are a smart man, surely you can see why he is making these donations, he even admitted in the ASACP thread that he did it to help his companies image, it seems funny AFF has the spotlight on them and 2 weeks in a row he makes donations to great causes

hmmm, doesn't every company/individual make public donations to help their image?

I am pretty sure they have been sending money to both FSC and ASACP prior to the last two weeks.

Brujah 06-18-2007 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001 (Post 12618343)
I may have missed something - but didn't Lars say he was working on pulling all ads from pages on Torrent sites that even had a hint of CP on them - even if it wasn't actually CP?

Of course we wouldn't want the facts to get in the way of some good drama.

Nope. He said he was working on having the ads removed from the pages that contained CP. The rest of the torrent sites pages were ok. Summary? Working with sites that distribute CP is still ok, as long as the ads aren't put on the CP pages.

Brujah 06-18-2007 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001 (Post 12618695)
You mean like Google, MSN, Yahoo, Ask.com, Any Site That Supports Lighspeed, Teen Rev. - of course I could go on.

Lar's said he would pull ads from pages that had anything to do with CP - OF COURSE it will not happen over night (You are are stupid if you think it can happen) - but I have no reason to doubt him - have you?

The imagecash account was pulled in less than 24 hours. Torrentz is more difficult?

What happens when defenders like yourself start trying to make sense and debate in threads like this? You keep fueling posts like this one from people more than eager to debate the issue, which in turn distracts and dilutes the purpose of the thread. Can't you just realize this and go post in the other topics instead so that this one doesn't keep giving people off-topic things to respond to?

Damian_Maxcash 06-18-2007 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 12618734)
.......Working with sites that distribute CP is still ok, as long as the ads aren't put on the CP pages.

Like Google etc.?

Damian_Maxcash 06-18-2007 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 12618751)
The imagecash account was pulled in less than 24 hours. Torrentz is more difficult?

What happens when defenders like yourself start trying to make sense and debate in threads like this? You keep fueling posts like this one from people more than eager to debate the issue, which in turn distracts and dilutes the purpose of the thread. Can't you just realize this and go post in the other topics instead so that this one doesn't keep giving people off-topic things to respond to?

So threads where you disagree with my point of view should be ignored or left to others that only share your view?

What a warped view you have of GFY......

»Rob Content« 06-18-2007 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001 (Post 12618695)
You mean like Google, MSN, Yahoo, Ask.com, Any Site That Supports Lighspeed, Teen Rev. - of course I could go on.

Lar's said he would pull ads from pages that had anything to do with CP - OF COURSE it will not happen over night (You are are stupid if you think it can happen) - but I have no reason to doubt him - have you?

Search engines are an entire different beast.

Right now AFF ads appear next to these links:

videogregg.com/i/read.txt

Within a matter of 10 minutes AFF could pull ads from these torrent sites and say once you've fixed the issue let us know and you can carry our ads again.

A search engine is a very different beast.

It's easy to have ONE site pull your stuff until it's proper.

I am not speaking about search engines, I am speaking about torrent sites right now.

You have no reason to doubt him.. do I?

Yes I do, he's been aware of these ads being on torrent sites for months now, and they are still there. How long does it take to fix an issue that could be taken care of in 10 minutes?

Brujah 06-18-2007 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001 (Post 12618781)
So threads where you disagree with my point of view should be ignored or left to others that only share your view?

What a warped view you have of GFY......

You're one of the dumbest people here. You were posting in this thread long before I arrived. I don't disagree with AFF donating to FSC. Someone else made a thread about this and I congratulated them and thanked them. I can still do that, while disagreeing with YOUR posts.

You haven't said anything insightful, or even intelligent. You're just the new idiot, fueling this bonfire and witchhunt. You're the great defender pissing all over the good cause thread.. and inviting others to come piss all over it with you.

There are other threads about this Torrent, CP, etc.. topic that you could continue this exact same debate in. Why don't you use them? Why focus on this one? Because you don't realize what you're doing to it. Dumbass.

Penny24Seven 06-18-2007 12:10 PM

Lars needs this more then anything, his whole site would be screwed if he had to have 2257 info for every nude girl on his site. I think it has more to do to help him then worry about his image. He has shown he is not worried about that

Damian_Maxcash 06-18-2007 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 12618807)
You're one of the dumbest people here. You were posting in this thread long before I arrived. I don't disagree with AFF donating to FSC. Someone else made a thread about this and I congratulated them and thanked them. I can still do that, while disagreeing with YOUR posts.

You haven't said anything insightful, or even intelligent. You're just the new idiot, fueling this bonfire and witchhunt. You're the great defender pissing all over the good cause thread.. and inviting others to come piss all over it with you.

There are other threads about this Torrent, CP, etc.. topic that you could continue this exact same debate in. Why don't you use them? Why focus on this one? Because you don't realize what you're doing to it. Dumbass.

I was responding to a post by VG.Content or whatever his fake nick is. Read the whole thread for fucks sake. You of all people must see the big picture here.

Brujah 06-18-2007 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001 (Post 12618833)
I was responding to a post by VG.Content or whatever his fake nick is. Read the whole thread for fucks sake. You of all people must see the big picture here.

That's why I'm just saying.. please IGNORE them (VG/Aussie/etc) in THIS thread. There are lots of others to beat each other up in. If you ignore them (and me) in this thread, we'd have had no one to argue with. Let's go continue it in a thread with Juicy's new thong instead.

Damian_Maxcash 06-18-2007 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 12618858)
That's why I'm just saying.. please IGNORE them (VG/Aussie/etc) in THIS thread. There are lots of others to beat each other up in. If you ignore them (and me) in this thread, we'd have had no one to argue with. Let's go continue it in a thread with Juicy's new thong instead.

Juicy's got a new thong? - Where is it - I want pics? :):winkwink:

»Rob Content« 06-18-2007 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001 (Post 12618833)
I was responding to a post by VG.Content or whatever his fake nick is. Read the whole thread for fucks sake. You of all people must see the big picture here.

Hi sorry, I'm not a fake nick, I do business with a lot of people here, I can have them contact you for reference if you like.


And of course you just like Lars and everyone else ignore my questions and they go unanswered.

You only reply to the ones you have a reply to, and ignore the others.

»Rob Content« 06-18-2007 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 12618858)
That's why I'm just saying.. please IGNORE them (VG/Aussie/etc) in THIS thread. There are lots of others to beat each other up in. If you ignore them (and me) in this thread, we'd have had no one to argue with. Let's go continue it in a thread with Juicy's new thong instead.

I appreciate you bringing up questions here as well, but please don't ask people to ignore me. I am not doing the name calling or anything else. I am trying to get valid answers to very valid questions.

tony286 06-18-2007 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp (Post 12618694)
then start a thread on your own. this thread is about FSC

No its about AFF hiding behind the FSC, what charity is it going to be next week the united way?

Marshal 06-18-2007 01:27 PM

huh, this thread is gonna be huuuuge!

Sean 06-18-2007 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 12619001)
No its about AFF hiding behind the FSC, what charity is it going to be next week the united way?

well name your favorite charity and we will talk about it. but you have to donate also

crockett 06-18-2007 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 12617327)
having been through one of these 2257 inspections i can tell you that if you have your stuff in order then you have nothing to worry about. theres still a long way to go as far as secondary producers are concerned but its no big deal at all if you just have your shit together. we're a primary producer and it was easy. everyone should be taking it serious and taking the steps to be compliant. they are going to keep going thats for sure so might as well not wait until the last minute. take actions now to protect your businesses and lively hoods.

Well that's easy to say as a program manager. However try to look at it from an affiliates POV. We don't get access to the 2257 info like you do when you buy content.

So the secondary producer issue is a big thing to a TGP or or style of free site operators.

Sean 06-18-2007 04:24 PM

anyone going to step up for FSC?

Xenophage 06-18-2007 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 12619746)
Well that's easy to say as a program manager. However try to look at it from an affiliates POV. We don't get access to the 2257 info like you do when you buy content.

So the secondary producer issue is a big thing to a TGP or or style of free site operators.

Agreed and as a person who started out with a small free site I GET IT

So for all our affilaites out there we are jumping in and stepping up !

baddog 06-18-2007 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VG.Content (Post 12618993)
ask people to ignore me

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/profil...ignore&u=83806

DatingGold 06-18-2007 05:10 PM

I think it's great you are donating and we will probably due the same soon.

Xenophage 06-18-2007 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatingGold (Post 12620425)
I think it's great you are donating and we will probably due the same soon.

Wooohoooooo Right on Allan !!!!

I got more post than you neener neener neener :)

But you have a nicer car so I guess we are even LOL

»Rob Content« 06-18-2007 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12620286)

Coming from the guy who has yet to reply to any questions I've asked him :)

Xenophage 06-19-2007 08:04 AM

lets see some donations for a great effort by the FSC

Elli 06-19-2007 09:31 AM

Bump for the FSC! I have their penguin on my desk this morning! :)


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