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Old 09-24-2002, 04:36 PM   #1
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Court Case: "Islam = Most Stupid of All Religions"

http://news.independent.co.uk/people...p?story=335138
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Old 09-24-2002, 04:42 PM   #2
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Muslims will probably kill him because they're insecure with their religion.
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Old 09-24-2002, 04:44 PM   #3
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i'ld say it is a toss up between fundi muslims and fundi christians for stupidist religion.

they both have their points
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Old 09-24-2002, 04:45 PM   #4
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Muslims will probably kill him because they're insecure with their religion.
I highly doubt you'd have a case like this in the US. I mean Christian theology is lampooned every day but you don't see massive lawsuits. Maybe it reflects the widespread and silent strength of Christianity in this country that it does not have to resort to lawsuits to "clear" its name.
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Old 09-24-2002, 04:48 PM   #5
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ruby ridge and waco,, remember that?
christians can be wild too
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Old 09-24-2002, 05:28 PM   #6
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I am no America Ra Ra Ra idiot, but this is one place where America's constitution still shines bright.

Free speech mean you are allowed to say what you want, even if some fucking religious group doesn't like it. I may not agree with this guy, but he has a right to say what the fuck he wants. Without free speech you can't have a free society.

If he wants to hate muslims, or christians, or vegans, or rabbits for that matter, then let him do it.

Free speech!
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Old 09-24-2002, 05:34 PM   #7
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America's firm belief of the status "redeemer nation" has to do with Puritan Theology.
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Old 09-24-2002, 05:46 PM   #8
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America's firm belief of the status "redeemer nation" has to do with Puritan Theology.
Very interesting post IMX. When you look at the past 200 years of American political literature there is always mention of the Christian God. I wonder how this will play out now that America is less White Anglo Saxon Protestant than before [due to non white and also non christian immigration].
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Old 09-24-2002, 06:02 PM   #9
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I wonder how this will play out now that America is less White Anglo Saxon Protestant than before [due to non white and also non christian immigration].
don't forget the general dismissal of traditional values and belief systems. that is a far greater factor then immigration.
with over 200 million ppl, it would take a fuck load of migrants, like 20 million, to even show up to a significant degree in demographic studies. the reduction of anglos in proportion is more closely linked to 2nd gen migrants having kids. not the current crop.
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Old 09-24-2002, 06:04 PM   #10
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If he wants to hate muslims, or christians, or vegans, or rabbits for that matter, then let him do it.
Free speech!
The guy didnt say he hates muslims - he said he thinks their religion is the most stupid.
I have a question.. Most stupid means its the highest on the stupidity scale - right? Well - if we would have measures all religion on that scale - and lets assume all religions have at least little of that "stupidity"-material to qualify for that scal - its evident and unavoidable that one of the religions will be the highest on that scale. Different people may measure that differently but the dude said on his scale its Islam. (nice point about the Islam/Bible poetry issue )
Anyway - what is he sued about? Having an opinion? having a "scale" or maybe scientifically he was wrong and his scale is out of scale?

I dont get it. If one of the religions MUST be the most stupid - and reserchers will find evidence that its Islam - will the Islamic movements drop the charges?
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Old 09-24-2002, 06:49 PM   #11
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Family: Went to live with his grandmother, Henriette Houellebecq, at Crécy-en-Brie, east of Paris at the age of six after his parents split. (His mother left him and his father to live with a Muslim man and converted to Islam.)
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Old 09-24-2002, 10:44 PM   #12
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if i go by holy books...then here is my list

1. Torah
1. Christians that follow the old testament...
3. Koran
4. Christians that only follow the new testament...
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Old 09-24-2002, 10:48 PM   #13
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The guy didnt say he hates muslims - he said he thinks their religion is the most stupid.
I have a question.. Most stupid means its the highest on the stupidity scale - right? Well - if we would have measures all religion on that scale - and lets assume all religions have at least little of that "stupidity"-material to qualify for that scal - its evident and unavoidable that one of the religions will be the highest on that scale. Different people may measure that differently but the dude said on his scale its Islam. (nice point about the Islam/Bible poetry issue )
Anyway - what is he sued about? Having an opinion? having a "scale" or maybe scientifically he was wrong and his scale is out of scale?

I dont get it. If one of the religions MUST be the most stupid - and reserchers will find evidence that its Islam - will the Islamic movements drop the charges?
I like the way your mind works. By the way this guy seems to be quite an interesting character.
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Old 09-24-2002, 11:20 PM   #14
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ruby ridge and waco,, remember that?
christians can be wild too
Anybody who believes that either event had anything to do with religion is seriously wacked out ...
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