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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-02-2007 03:24 AM

Minus hit me up on Monday maybe I can help ya:)

CDSmith 12-02-2007 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13456342)
What else can you do with it?

Other than send it to a blog?

Plenty.

I could write a book on all the techniques I and others have used to make productive use of paid traffic, and believe me over the last 7+ years I have bought thousands worth.

I can think of very few instances where I would send paid traffic directly to a blog. None involve adult.

Tjeezers 12-02-2007 05:29 AM

KARMA is a bitch
Give webmasters passwordss away and see what happens
You get fucked in your tinny little ass mister Minue One Shit.
U deserve to get scammed and fucked so hard

Find a train and frensh kiss it.

Klen 12-02-2007 06:03 AM

Conclusion of this thread: minusonebit is stupid.

u-Bob 12-02-2007 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13456508)
To me, that says that most of the traffic is fucking bots and fake traffic.

So you are accusing people of sending you fake traffic because you were unable to convert the traffic or to put it to good use...? :Oh crap

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13456553)
I don't see why traffic coming from a TGP should't work on a blog.

The first step in converting (any kind of) traffic is understanding your traffic. (language, country, origin, expectations, previously visited sites,...)

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13456553)
Obviously if I am buying traffic its because I want more than what the SEs are giving me ATM.

Some kinds of traffic are harder to acquire but easier to convert (targeted SE traffic for example), other kinds of traffic are easier to acquire (bought/skimmed traffic for example), but harder to convert

Quote:

Originally Posted by polle54 (Post 13456691)
It's so god damn simple. Not everyone has brain enough to generate money using traffic broker traffic.

true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by polle54 (Post 13456691)
I have seen plenty of guys turning it to profit in many creative ways but of course if you are stupid enough to send it to a blog or a paysite tour then you can't profit

....

You got to be creative and think outside the box, I mean really outside the box.

creativity is the keyword here!

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 13456699)
Come on, it's not exactly a secret that traffic brokers charge more for traffic than the traffic is worth to an average webmaster...

says more bout the average webmaster than the traffic sold by traffic brokers. It's a well known fact that 93.7% of all 'webmasters' will never make any real money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13457244)
Buying traffic is a skill. Buying traffic from brokers and learning how to convert it is even more difficult.

true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shahab6 (Post 13457828)
Most of the traffic they sell are pop-under

incorrect (and easy to detect).

Quote:

Originally Posted by kichi (Post 13456720)
why do you think they sell their traffic? if it converted they would jsut send it to their affiliate links for aff or whoever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afrin (Post 13458378)
If it was worth anything they wouldn't be selling it

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudeBoy (Post 13457113)
if the traffic was so good why would they sell it ? have you ever thought of that before ?

The reason most people sell traffic: Guaranteed (and instant) income.



Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13456342)
What else can you do with it? There is nothing else you can do with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 13458413)
Other than send it to a blog?

Plenty.

I could write a book on all the techniques I and others have used to make productive use of paid traffic, and believe me over the last 7+ years I have bought thousands worth.

I can think of very few instances where I would send paid traffic directly to a blog. None involve adult.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 13455937)
I'm not saying you are guilty of this, but some idiots think it's as simple as slapping some banners and links to FHG's on a site and it will be enough to magically convert traffic purchased from brokers. Such idiots don't have the wherewithal to realize that maybe it is they who don't know how to convert traffic to signups and instead blame the brokers, call them scammers etc.

Buying traffic and actually putting it to work for you is a science, and learning that science is on you the buyer, not the broker.

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13456269)
Its a worthless product. They know its worthless and so do I.

I agree with CDSmith; there are tons of ways to make good use of bought traffic. During the second World War, scientists invented a kind of silicone plastic that at first seemed totally useless. About 10 years later a guy started selling it as a children's toy (silly putty). Using bought/skimmed traffic is just like using any tool/idea/resource/... in this world (not just adult, not just online marketing,...): It requires 2 things:
1. hard work.
2. creativity.
to make money.

Klen 12-02-2007 08:39 AM

Reply to u-bob:
Also content is very important.You can have shitty traffic 100%,but if you have quality content then you will get sales no matter what.

Snake Doctor 12-02-2007 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 13459116)
It's a well known fact that 93.7% of all 'webmasters' will never make any real money.
.

63.8% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

82.6% of people know this.

RudeBoy 12-02-2007 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13457192)
Yeah that's why you should never buy google adwords...if google's traffic was worth anything why would they sell it?

</sarcasm>

post proof of traffic you purchased from a broker and turned profit. Waiting .....

The Judge 12-02-2007 03:48 PM

If you keep buying ~large~ amounts of the same traffic over and over the broker takes notice, copies your idea and either increases the price of that traffic or uses it himself. You cannot make ~long term~ money from an original idea with bought traffic because the broker knows where you sending it and how much you are buying.

Big money is also made from thousands of newbs that think they will make money from buying traffic, they give up eventually but other new ones come to replace them.

RudeBoy 12-02-2007 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Judge (Post 13460931)
but other new ones come to replace them.

you mean new monkeys

Snake Doctor 12-02-2007 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudeBoy (Post 13460914)
post proof of traffic you purchased from a broker and turned profit. Waiting .....

You'll be waiting a long fucking time for me to show you how I make my money noob.

Besides, even if I was willing to do something like that, which I'm not, all I'd be able to post is a screenshot of what, my sponsor stats and maybe a receipt from the traffic broker...like that's proof of anything?

Besides that....the point of brokered traffic (the type we're talking about in this thread) isn't to directly monetize it...it's to feed traffic to a site that will grow based on trades.

You can't really monetize blind thumbnail traffic....of course traffic like that will convert at 1 in 100K or worse if you send it directly to a sales page.

minusonebit 12-02-2007 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 13458103)
You missed his point entirely. But I'm glad to see you put a lot of thought into how hard the surfers dick is!

Of course I worry about how hard their dicks are. The harder their dicks, the more likely they are to go look for credit cards and make me money. Duh.

baddog 12-02-2007 05:31 PM

Not sure why I returned to this train wreck, but . . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13456508)
Right. I know alot are going to go away, maybe even most. Thats to be expected. Less than a couple of hundred went off my site and into the tours or FHGs at the sponsor, the number that actually made it to the signup page was like 12. No signups. To me, that says that most of the traffic is fucking bots and fake traffic.

You are expecting a lot from blind traffic. Someone clicks a link expecting to see pictures and they get your poorly written blog. I am surprised you got 12 clicks to the signup page.


Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13456553)
I am not an idiot. . . . For that matter, I don't see much difference between a blog and a TGP.

Conflict of statements there.

L-Pink 12-02-2007 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 13456756)
So let's recap on the last year or so with minusonebit:

1) Can't understand how Epassporte works and ends up getting canned there.
2) Threatens to sue Epassporte but does nothing about it.
3) Spreads private information of more than 300 webmasters with his blog in hopes of a few extra ad word pennies.
4) Offers his writing services at less than third world outsource prices. You get what you pay for.
5) Can't understand how a TGP is different than a blog.

Stunning success my man, stunning success!

You forgot his tips on going to prison for cheating the IRS.

.

Kick Ass Chat 12-02-2007 06:56 PM

This is another thread where the thread starter probabally wishes he never started it...:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

RudeBoy 12-02-2007 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13461042)
You'll be waiting a long fucking time for me to show you how I make my money noob.

Besides, even if I was willing to do something like that, which I'm not, all I'd be able to post is a screenshot of what, my sponsor stats and maybe a receipt from the traffic broker...like that's proof of anything?

Besides that....the point of brokered traffic (the type we're talking about in this thread) isn't to directly monetize it...it's to feed traffic to a site that will grow based on trades.

You can't really monetize blind thumbnail traffic....of course traffic like that will convert at 1 in 100K or worse if you send it directly to a sales page.


You just got RudeBoy ....................................

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/2882/owned9wz.jpg

DatingGold 12-02-2007 07:24 PM

In case your parents never taught you.. You get what you pay for..

Snake Doctor 12-02-2007 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudeBoy (Post 13461521)
You just got RudeBoy ....................................

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/2882/owned9wz.jpg


Yeah a "webmaster" who has to hotlink pictures from imageshack really "owned" me. :1orglaugh

Whatever punk, come back when you can afford to buy a clue.

JohnnyJames 12-02-2007 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13461694)
Yeah a "webmaster" who has to hotlink pictures from imageshack really "owned" me. :1orglaugh

Whatever punk, come back when you can afford to buy a clue.

Agreed snake. This was probably one of the gentlemen who was grousing about "wasting" money to try out 8 bucks worth of traffic the other day. My goodness. 8 dollars. . . thats four times what these folks would spend on an engagement ring, if they ever found a woman with few enough teeth to actually attract them.

The Judge 01-07-2008 04:48 PM

Sounds like a plan...


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