Paul Markham, Why Do You Hose Affiliate Accts That Make Sales But Have Bad Ratios? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

CDSmith · 11-28-2007, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

Where did I say he was a whale? Do you really not get this? What happens when a genuine guy with a lot of traffic, who sends sales, utilises your hosted tools, and/or sends a lot of traffic to your tour? If this guy who didn't send sales, but a lot of traffic, can fuck up your tour, and cause problems for other affiliates, what happens when the guy who can send 100+ sales a day starts sending surfers to you?

Post 43 of the thread:

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Originally Posted by Jel

Blah blah blah. You still haven't answered this question anywhere:

When you get a genuine whale, who uses your hosted banner(s) and/or sends a lot of traffic to your tour, are they not also going to slow the tour down for other affiliates (as well as themselves) and cause as you put it "LOST SIGN UPS!"?

The term "whale" pertains to signups, not mass traffic.

My question is, why isn't the affiliate in question on these threads defending his own position? You'd think if his account with Paul was valuable he would be telling his side of the deal, no? (instead of you lot)

CDSmith · 11-28-2007, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Enemator

That doesn't mean you can do ANYTHING you want when it comes to affiliates. It's called business ethics.

For the record: I'm not saying anything about his decision in this matter. I'm talking in general.

I never said that I agree with what Paul has done. But the fact is it IS his site, and he can do whatever he wants with it. If he wants to take it down and burn all his content that's within his right to do so, for example.

I don't know of the program out there that has a TOS that gives affiliates any legal right of claim on how the program is run or how they are treated etc. Most programs will can an affiliate or suspend their account if they think the affiliate is up to no good or something is wrong with the way they send traffic. ALL of those that I deal with will at least listen to your side of it and work with you to make things right. Paul seems willing to do this.

The other guy doesn't seem to be talking much.

silver · 11-28-2007, 05:25 AM

Keep emailing & calling the dude....should be interesting to see how this turns out.

If the dude is sending non-converting traffic then offer him some help.
Maybe teach him how to filter it better...
Being a nice guy will get you farther and only improve your biz and rep.

...anyways i hope it all works out for you.

Shoplifter · 11-28-2007, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Enemator

That doesn't mean you can do ANYTHING you want when it comes to affiliates. It's called business ethics.

If it's about the ethics then why aren't all you guys in the completely misleading and dubious Naughty America contest thread?

I don't know anything about Paul Markham or his sites but this thread seems a little bit baited and unnecessary...There is real crap to deal with on GFY just a few clicks away...

Jel · 11-28-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Post 43 of the thread:

The term "whale" pertains to signups, not mass traffic.

My question is, why isn't the affiliate in question on these threads defending his own position? You'd think if his account with Paul was valuable he would be telling his side of the deal, no? (instead of you lot)

See the rest of the (my) post. Again, where did I say this particular guy was/is a whale? I'll save you the bother - I didn't.

kovacs · 11-28-2007, 07:07 PM

I have to say that as an affiliate I'd be pretty pissed off if someone rang my day job (not that I have one)... Regardless of what they were calling about, that would be grounds enough to can a sponsor.

11-28-2007, 05:25 AM	#53
silver Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: FL Posts: 1,078	Keep emailing & calling the dude....should be interesting to see how this turns out. If the dude is sending non-converting traffic then offer him some help. Maybe teach him how to filter it better... Being a nice guy will get you farther and only improve your biz and rep. ...anyways i hope it all works out for you.

11-28-2007, 07:07 PM	#56
kovacs So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 248	I have to say that as an affiliate I'd be pretty pissed off if someone rang my day job (not that I have one)... Regardless of what they were calling about, that would be grounds enough to can a sponsor.