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11-28-2007, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by venus

where is the video, its gone and so is that site

http://www.abc15.com/news/local/stor...8-d5238bcbf048

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The Arizona Department of Public safety is trying to determine the validity of a video showing a man driving more than 200 miles per hour in a Lamborghini on the Loop 202.

The video, which has been making rounds on the internet, claims the man reached a top speed of 219 miles per hour.

The video has appeared on both individual websites and on the popular video sharing site, YouTube.com.

In it, the Lamborghini appears to pass other vehicles on the freeway at the high rate of speed. The driver also appears to make a contest out of it all.

DPS has confirmed there’s a criminal investigation underway to determine the authenticity of the video.

The speeding appears to be happening on the San Tan Freeway portion of the Loop 202 in the Southeast Valley.

It's unclear when the video was shot.

Stay with ABC15.com for updates.

Holy Shit! 10 pages!!!

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11-28-2007, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by RayVega

You know, I was going to stay far away from this thread...those who know me, know why. But I just have to chime in here.

I'm not in any way condoning what Rob did. But for god sakes! We have all done something fucking stupid in our lives. Some of us more than others, but we all have nonetheless. I have to say that in the scope of things, after watching the video. I really do not think it was enough to make Rob out as Adolf Hitler. The guy had a lapse of judgment and did something that wasn't too smart, but probably fun as hell. He doesn't deserve to be executed!

You never took a risk and later said "what the fuck was I thinking? I could have killed someone?" if you say no, then you are just a plain old liar. Look, the guy fucked up...give him a break.

And Lia was just posting it to get some hits to her site, so don't hate on her or expect her to answer for Rob in an intelligent manner. It was a stupid thing, and I'm sure he regrets it. NOBODY got hurt!

Give a guy a break once in a while for Christ sakes! Now go read a fucking book or at least watch TV. If this incident is the highlight of your day, you have no fucking life.

Now, I may be way off here, and shred me if you must, but that's my two cents.

Like most GFY threads, which you should be use to by now... No one is making him out to be Hitler. Actually most posts are replies to other idiots making posts in this thread. You know like some idiot says " whats the big deal we speed on the AutoBahn" and that spins off a 30 post discussion.

I think you are over reacting with the " he shouldn't be executed " and " made out to be hitler" comments. If you read back through the thread and actually read the posts you will see most people said the same thing you did, it was stupid, bad judgement on his part, it was reckless, what an idiot for taping it and posting it to the net etc... I think that is hardly making the guy out to be Hitler. Last i checked Hitler killed millions of people, Rob just drove a car 200+ mph. All the rest of the posts were people arguing amongest themselves.

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11-28-2007, 05:09 PM

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Sure skills are needed, but not while going in a straight line like this well, you only need to be smart enough to not make any sudden moves together with taking foot from accelerator

When the mini-van with 4 kids pulls into the lane from the shoulder, after checking their side view mirror and seeing headlights well off in the distance, having no idea that the headlights are approaching at 4 times the speed you would expect them to approach at, how do you avoid making any sudden moves?
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11-28-2007, 05:10 PM

Wow, from the story this shit doesn't look to good for Rob. Me senses a witch hunt about to begin!

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11-28-2007, 05:11 PM

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Holy Shit! 10 pages!!!

He might lose his car, but at least he will have a new x-box to play with!***

Sorry, I could not resist!

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11-28-2007, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by fr0gman

Can I cast my vote for an IQ entrance exam to get access to GFY? Oh, and how about $150.00 per year subscription fee?

I am 110% sick of sifting through posts by children and/or idiots!

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and what makes you think so? Just enough bravery is needed, driving like this in straight line is fairly easy in such a car, the car is 100% stable and easy to drive, even no clutch. You don't know because you never did it, the fact that something scares the shit out of you does not mean that other people need skills for this And well, in curves it would be something different.
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11-28-2007, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by maddox

and what makes you think so? Just enough bravery is needed, driving like this in straight line is fairly easy in such a car, the car is 100% stable and easy to drive, even no clutch. You don't know because you never did it, the fact that something scares the shit out of you does not mean that other people need skills for this And well, in curves it would be something different.

Oh christ maddox - for the love of god stop.
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11-28-2007, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by fr0gman

Can I cast my vote for an IQ entrance exam to get access to GFY? Oh, and how about $150.00 per year subscription fee?

I am 110% sick of sifting through posts by children and/or idiots!

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Ill second that. However since that wont happen I have decided to use the ignore function, by the time i am done i will have thousands of people added . Its a pain in the ass but better than nothing.

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11-28-2007, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by JMM

When the mini-van with 4 kids pulls into the lane from the shoulder, after checking their side view mirror and seeing headlights well off in the distance, having no idea that the headlights are approaching at 4 times the speed you would expect them to approach at, how do you avoid making any sudden moves?

minivan with 4 children in the middle of the night? I am sure in US it means jail time to have your children up at 3 in the morning
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11-28-2007, 05:16 PM

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Oh christ maddox - for the love of god stop.

I will, but it was a fun night
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11-28-2007, 05:17 PM

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minivan with 4 children in the middle of the night? I am sure in US it means jail time to have your children up at 3 in the morning

Wrong. There can be many reasons why, but you completely miss the point. Mini-van with 4 children, an old guy in a pick-up truck, a stripper going home after a hard nights work, it is all the same.
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11-28-2007, 05:17 PM

If speeding is a felony in Arizona ......... (is it?, reckless driving)

The car will be seized. Period. The fact that the "crime" was deliberate, and on going won't help.
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11-28-2007, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by JMM

When the mini-van with 4 kids pulls into the lane from the shoulder, after checking their side view mirror and seeing headlights well off in the distance, having no idea that the headlights are approaching at 4 times the speed you would expect them to approach at, how do you avoid making any sudden moves?

You can't explain this to Maddox the idiot. his response is they do it on the autobahn and people should look in their rear mirrors.

On the autobahn people know there is no speed limit so the people going slower are aware and cautious. On an interstate were the speed limit is 65 mph no one is expecting someone else to be driving 200+ mph. When they look in their mirror and they barely see headlights in the distance they will not react to it thinking that person is 5 mins behind them not 5 seconds.

but you (maddox) are to thick in the fucking head to understand this.

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11-28-2007, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by will76

You can't explain this to Maddox the idiot. his response is they do it on the autobahn and people should look in their rear mirrors.

On the autobahn people know there is no speed limit so the people going slower are aware and cautious. On an interstate were the speed limit is 65 mph no one is expecting someone else to be driving 200+ mph. When they look in their mirror and they barely see headlights in the distance they will not react to it thinking that person is 5 mins behind them not 5 seconds.

but you (maddox) are to thick in the fucking head to understand this.

you know what, you actually convinced me
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11-28-2007, 05:24 PM

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The car will be seized. Period. The fact that the "crime" was deliberate, and on going won't help.

I don't know about that. I am not versed in AZ law but even on a felony Reckless endangerment charge, I don't think the state can seize a vehicle.

vehicle seizures usually take place due to drug busts and thats a special and specific piece of legislation that allows that.

Hell, even in a vehicular homicide case, the defendant gets the car back unless it's his second DWI (DUI) ...at least here in NY, as far as I know.

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11-28-2007, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by L-Pink

The car will be seized. Period. The fact that the "crime" was deliberate, and on going won't help.

It also doesnt help that he was making the video to promote his site (make money), and says in the video " see if you can beat that" or something to that affect. Encouraging people to go out and do it and trying to use it for self promotion are the things that probably have the cops interested. if he would have just made a video it got posted to youtube and there was no site behind it or way to track the person down i bet nothing would have ever been done about it.

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11-28-2007, 05:26 PM

maddox, My mother in her Chevy has no business and is just as dangerous on a German autobahn as this guy is on our roads. Make it a little clearer?
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11-28-2007, 05:27 PM

oh shit...making news all over:
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/102919

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Officials are investigating a YouTube.com video that appears to show an unknown man driving a Lamborghini Murcielago about 219 mph on Loop 202.

Arizona Department of Public Safety spokesman Harold Sanders would not comment on the video, which he called an "alleged extreme violation of the posted speed limit," in a statement to the media.

The video shows the gold car making three attempts to beat what a narrator calls the car?s former top speed of 171 mph. In the first run, the engine roars, but only reaches 211 mph.

The Lamborghini then takes a rest and goes for another race, but is apparently slowed down by another driver.

"Could?ve gone even more if it wasn?t for this car in front of us," a voice says.

Based on passing signs in the background, it appears the car is traveling in east Mesa near Ellsworth Road on the Santan stretch of Loop 202.

Ros De Giaxa, sales manager at Motorsports of Scottsdale, the only licensed Lamborghini dealership in the state, said the manufacturer of the car lists its top speed at 205 mph, but it?s quite possible the car could travel faster.

"They are built for speed," De Giaxa said. "They have all-wheel drive, 12 cylinders, 640 horsepower ... which is more than a Ferrari."

De Giaxa said there are about 350 Lamborghinis in Arizona, with more being purchased every day. He said Motorsports of Scottsdale is Arizona's only authorized service center for the car.

He said Lamborghini technicians have equipment that can show how fast the car has been driven.

"Everyone who has a warranty has to come to us," he added.

De Giaxa confirmed he had watched the video, but declined to comment if he knows who owns the car, citing a customer privacy protection policy.

The video doesn?t show the drivers? face, and only his voice can be heard at the end of the video when he introduces himself and challenges someone to beat his alleged record speed.

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11-28-2007, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by fr0gman

If you are convicted on your speeding ticket you also have the right to a jury trial. Ask for one! The case will either be dismissed or simply never go to trial.

At least that is how it works in Am-er-i-ca.

Maybe how it works in SD, sure is not the way it works in CA
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11-28-2007, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by RayVega

I don't know about that. I am not versed in AZ law but even on a felony Reckless endangerment charge, I don't think the state can seize a vehicle.

vehicle seizures usually take place due to drug busts and thats a special and specific piece of legislation that allows that.

Hell, even in a vehicular homicide case, the defendant gets the car back unless it's his second DWI (DUI) ...at least here in NY, as far as I know.

Ray, Cars are also taken from "john's" looking for 20 dollar blowjobs. If the vehicle is continually used in the commission of a crime, and is in fact the only reason the crime can be committed it will be seized.

Right or wrong the justification is there to take it. Property in a seizure becomes it's own entity and it's guilt or innocence is not tied to the human being charged. The state attorneys will make it to expensive to even attempt to recover.

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11-28-2007, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by maddox

minivan with 4 children in the middle of the night? I am sure in US it means jail time to have your children up at 3 in the morning

You really are a goof ball, aren't you?

I am going to rescind my comment about you being ESL, you are simply a dunce.
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11-28-2007, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by maddox

I already said so in this thread, how is this more dangerous on your almost empty road than on a german autobahn? it's the same damn road and a lot less cars. All your reactions are like he would do something unbelievable amazing, it's just a stupid car made to drive fast. It was also pretty safe, this car is very stable at those speeds you can easily take your hands off the steering wheel and nothing will happen, the front suspension is made this way so that the car goes always straight and you almost cannot change the direction without steering wheel. Other drivers, well they can hit you in Germany too if they are stupid enough to not look in the rear mirror.

Honestly, WTF is your problem....??

This 219 MPH fiasco did not happen in Germany. It happened in Arizona, USA where the legal speed limit is between 65 and 75 MPH depending on the population and controlled access. Not 219; ever!

As for your statement: "it's the same damn road and a lot less cars."

Let me start with: BAAAHAHAHAHAHAH

Now on tot the facts:

If you do a little research you will find that the "autobahn" is actually unlike any US highway. It is smoother, thicker and wider. In fact the autobahn was specifically designed with a 3 degree camber in the flats to disburse rainwater and a steeper than normal angle in curves to allow for tracking.

In short you are an idiot and the autobahn is designed more like a racetrack.. which is where this entire let's=drive-219 deal should have begin and ended.

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11-28-2007, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by L-Pink

maddox, My mother in her Chevy has no business and is just as dangerous on a German autobahn as this guy is on our roads. Make it a little clearer?

This is clear like sky during the sunny day, I was just playing with you people

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11-28-2007, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by fr0gman

Honestly, WTF is your problem....??

This 219 MPH fiasco did not happen in Germany. It happened in Arizona, USA where the legal speed limit is between 65 and 75 MPH depending on the population and controlled access. Not 219; ever!

As for your statement: "it's the same damn road and a lot less cars."

Let me start with: BAAAHAHAHAHAHAH

Now on tot the facts:

If you do a little research you will find that the "autobahn" is actually unlike any US highway. It is smoother, thicker and wider. In fact the autobahn was specifically designed with a 3 degree camber in the flats to disburse rainwater and a steeper than normal angle in curves to allow for tracking.

In short you are an idiot and the autobahn is designed more like a racetrack.. which is where this entire let's=drive-219 deal should have begin and ended.

There was a 3 1/2 year window in Montana where speed limits were defined as *reasonable and prudent*. The freeways there were built exactly the same as every freeway in the US.

My experiences with the Autobahn are that people there are trained to drive differently. They don't drink coffee and talk on phones. They drive in the right and pass on the left.

The roads in Germany are not that much better than the US system.

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11-28-2007, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by RayVega

oh shit...making news all over:
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/102919

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Officials are investigating a YouTube.com video that appears to show an unknown man driving a Lamborghini Murcielago about 219 mph on Loop 202.

Arizona Department of Public Safety spokesman Harold Sanders would not comment on the video, which he called an "alleged extreme violation of the posted speed limit," in a statement to the media.

The video shows the gold car making three attempts to beat what a narrator calls the car’s former top speed of 171 mph. In the first run, the engine roars, but only reaches 211 mph.

The Lamborghini then takes a rest and goes for another race, but is apparently slowed down by another driver.

"Could’ve gone even more if it wasn’t for this car in front of us," a voice says.

Based on passing signs in the background, it appears the car is traveling in east Mesa near Ellsworth Road on the Santan stretch of Loop 202.

Ros De Giaxa, sales manager at Motorsports of Scottsdale, the only licensed Lamborghini dealership in the state, said the manufacturer of the car lists its top speed at 205 mph, but it’s quite possible the car could travel faster.

"They are built for speed," De Giaxa said. "They have all-wheel drive, 12 cylinders, 640 horsepower ... which is more than a Ferrari."

De Giaxa said there are about 350 Lamborghinis in Arizona, with more being purchased every day. He said Motorsports of Scottsdale is Arizona's only authorized service center for the car.

He said Lamborghini technicians have equipment that can show how fast the car has been driven.

"Everyone who has a warranty has to come to us," he added.

De Giaxa confirmed he had watched the video, but declined to comment if he knows who owns the car, citing a customer privacy protection policy.

The video doesn’t show the drivers’ face, and only his voice can be heard at the end of the video when he introduces himself and challenges someone to beat his alleged record speed.

that kind of kills the argument " the tape has been edited, it can't be credible, they can't go off the tape, etc etc." All they have to do is get a subpoena which t hey could get from the video and bring the car into the dealership to verify how fast it has been driven. Doesn't matter if the orginal tape has been destroyed etc... At this point if i was him I would destroy the car, you have to get rid of all the evidence

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11-28-2007, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Minte

My experiences with the Autobahn are that people there are trained to drive differently. They don't drink coffee and talk on phones. They drive in the right and pass on the left.

I wish it were like this. We have many people here that change lanes without checking if there's a faster car on the left lane approaching. Then we have people that even change lanes on purpose to slow you down and of course the people that think they own the left lane. I'm happy that my car has very good brakes

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11-28-2007, 06:05 PM

that was stupid thing to do .

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11-28-2007, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by J B

I wish it were like this. We have many people here that change lanes without checking if there's a faster car on the left lane approaching. Then we have people that even change lanes on purpose to slow you down and of course the people that think they own the left lane. I'm happy that my car has very good brakes

No doubt the autobahn is far from perfect and is getting more congested yearly. But a bad day on the autobahn is still far better than a great day on American freeways.

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11-28-2007, 06:09 PM

Check out this comment someone made to the news story ( I edited the post not to show the info), I don't want to be responsible for posting personal shit, but this guy who made the comment actually posted the address and phone numbers.

I found out who both of these guys "Robert and Aaron" are.
I wonder if the DPS was able to find out as well?
If not then here you go DPS.
Give me a job as a cyber detective. :D

Robert SXXXXX
10607 XXXX st
Phoenix, AZ 85020
Phone: 480-XXX-XXXX

Aaron BXXXXX
4410 X. XXXXX Lane
Phoenix, Arizona 85028
602-XXX-XXXX

Now that everyone knows who you are the police just have to apprehend you. I hope they make an example out of you.

Now, how the hell did he get that from the video???
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11-28-2007, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by Minte

No doubt the autobahn is far from perfect and is getting more congested yearly. But a bad day on the autobahn is still far better than a great day on American freeways.

You need to get out more. I have driven on highways that I can go an hour and see as many people as Rob did in that 5 minute video.
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11-28-2007, 06:12 PM

The credits?
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11-28-2007, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by RayVega

Check out this comment someone made to the news story ( I edited the post not to show the info), I don't want to be responsible for posting personal shit, but this guy who made the comment actually posted the address and phone numbers.

Now, how the hell did he get that from the video???
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11-28-2007, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by will76

that kind of kills the argument " the tape has been edited, it can't be credible, they can't go off the tape, etc etc." All they have to do is get a subpoena which t hey could get from the video and bring the car into the dealership to verify how fast it has been driven. Doesn't matter if the orginal tape has been destroyed etc... At this point if i was him I would destroy the car, you have to get rid of all the evidence

Will it show where it was driven while at that speed?
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11-28-2007, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by baddog

You need to get out more. I have driven on highways that I can go an hour and see as many people as Rob did in that 5 minute video.

lol .... I have been on roads where there was so much time between cars I started to feel like something happened I wasn't aware of.
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11-28-2007, 06:15 PM

Well, not sure how they got Aaron's info, but Rob's is very easy.
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11-28-2007, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by L-Pink

lol .... I have been on roads where there was so much time between cars I started to feel like something happened I wasn't aware of.

No doubt. Entire states like that.
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11-28-2007, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by baddog

You need to get out more. I have driven on highways that I can go an hour and see as many people as Rob did in that 5 minute video.

I have plenty of roads that I drive that I never see a car on. The interstates are what I am talking about. Driving them are nothing but a pain in the ass.
The only issues on the county roads are that occasional John Deere that pulls out of a field.

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11-28-2007, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by RayVega

Check out this comment someone made to the news story ( I edited the post not to show the info), I don't want to be responsible for posting personal shit, but this guy who made the comment actually posted the address and phone numbers.

I found that forum in googlenews, that same site is also linking to the bromasters article!
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11-28-2007, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by RayVega

Check out this comment someone made to the news story ( I edited the post not to show the info), I don't want to be responsible for posting personal shit, but this guy who made the comment actually posted the address and phone numbers.

Now, how the hell did he get that from the video???
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11-28-2007, 06:23 PM

The perfect place for him to find his top end would have been the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah. I think they hold an annual event where you can bring just about any vehicle and run it down the track. He could have got an exact time and speed using their equipment and best of all it would have been done as safely as possible.
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11-28-2007, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by Boobmeister

I found that forum in googlenews, that same site is also linking to the bromasters article!

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, man! there's info flying everywhere! Next step national news at 11pm!

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11-28-2007, 06:29 PM

I figure it is 10 pages too late to report the car stolen ....

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11-28-2007, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by CuriousToyBoy

I figure it is 10 pages too late to report the car stolen ....

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You mean car, camcorder and girlfriend?

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11-28-2007, 06:32 PM

damm anti tht some shit
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11-28-2007, 06:36 PM

http://www.azfamily.com/video/localn...ml?nvid=196721

and the hits just keep on coming....

6 oclock news.... name, house visit, personal website.. everything

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11-28-2007, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by will76

It also doesnt help that he was making the video to promote his site (make money), and says in the video " see if you can beat that" or something to that affect. Encouraging people to go out and do it and trying to use it for self promotion are the things that probably have the cops interested. if he would have just made a video it got posted to youtube and there was no site behind it or way to track the person down i bet nothing would have ever been done about it.

I don't think he had ads or made revenue from his 205mph site. It was just a bunch of videos of him and his buddy's reaching insane speeds in their cars. Sort of a bragging rights thing, IMO.

http://web.archive.org/web/200708181...ww.205mph.com/
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11-28-2007, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by evildick

I don't think he had ads or made revenue from his 205mph site. It was just a bunch of videos of him and his buddy's reaching insane speeds in their cars. Sort of a bragging rights thing, IMO.

http://web.archive.org/web/200708181...ww.205mph.com/

that's cool.... do they do archives of anything they can find? or just specific things????

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11-28-2007, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by Minte

I have plenty of roads that I drive that I never see a car on. The interstates are what I am talking about. Driving them are nothing but a pain in the ass.
The only issues on the county roads are that occasional John Deere that pulls out of a field.

Try UT, WY, SD . . . . lots of open Highway, no tractors.
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11-28-2007, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by Kevin-SFBucks

http://www.azfamily.com/video/localn...ml?nvid=196721

and the hits just keep on coming....

6 oclock news.... name, house visit, personal website.. everything

The little news dweeb is loving this story and just wait until he finds out more. Fast cars, sex, money ... this is prime news fodder.
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11-28-2007, 06:48 PM

And I have been on the Interstate in UT and CO for sure where traffic was pretty non-existent.
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