How can a sponsor to show the charge backs after only 1-2 days?! - GoFuckYourself.com

livegirlsonbed · 11-20-2007, 11:32 PM

Hi there!

What about charge backs?! How may i be sure my CB/Refunds can be real of faked transaction showed by my sponsor?!

If this period i does 30 sales, today i can to see 5 sales was charge backs

.
How is that possible?!

Maybe those sales can be fraud i don't know ..but

I know that to see a charge back will be like 2 or 3 month to find out.

The strange question is : How you "as sponsor" can to know that so faster after just few hours or 1-2-3 days?!

I use in one of my web site CCBILL, EPOCH, and each one of this find out about charge back after 2 or 3 month.

Good luck to all and fuck off with all carders

pr0 · 11-20-2007, 11:34 PM

5 through your refcode?

1) you're doing it yourself
2) someone really really hates you
3) you run a high profile site

I'm leaning towards 1 & 2, with your broken english.

After Shock Media · 11-20-2007, 11:36 PM

Maybe some cards are already flagged by visa/mastercard as stolen, then when it gets sent through it bounces back as a chargeback?

Honestly do not know but i did get one in my paysite in uder 16 hours once.

GrouchyAdmin · 11-20-2007, 11:38 PM

Usually they show up afterwards, so if you have '5' chargebacks, they're a total of 5 registered today over the whole period. There WERE 21 days this month, and even if you are paid out twice a month, there have been 6 days since the last period.

Only 30 sales, though, you're lucky if you don't get banned from an affiliate. That's crappy.

livegirlsonbed · 11-21-2007, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0

5 through your refcode?

1) you're doing it yourself

2) someone really really hates you

3) you run a high profile site

Hi!

1. Absolutely no.
2. i don't know.
3. I run a cam site, who receive good cam traffic from SE.

livegirlsonbed · 11-21-2007, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Maybe some cards are already flagged by visa/mastercard as stolen, then when it gets sent through it bounces back as a chargeback?

Honestly do not know but i did get one in my paysite in uder 16 hours once.

If a credit card is flagged by visa/mastercard as stolen, why the payment processor/s accept its?!

livegirlsonbed · 11-21-2007, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Usually they show up afterwards, so if you have '5' chargebacks, they're a total of 5 registered today over the whole period. There WERE 21 days this month, and even if you are paid out twice a month, there have been 6 days since the last period.

Only 30 sales, though, you're lucky if you don't get banned from an affiliate. That's crappy.

lol

I hope is normal to don't accept sales who come from fraudulent countries, that's not my problem, the traffic come from google, what control my i can to have to a cobranded site !?

The same type of traffic i sent to other sponsor where i have around 1600 sales this year and no chargebacks?!

VIPimp · 11-21-2007, 12:37 AM

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CuriousToyBoy · 11-21-2007, 12:38 AM

LionDollars for one, and we are not the only ones, have HIGHLY advanced fraud protection backed into our own merchant processing.

Sometimes fraudulent transactiosn are identified immediately, sometimes within 5 minutes of the same and sometimes can take longer.

Bottom line is that they are picked up FAST and immediate removal, blacklisting AND reporting happen instantaneously to any discovery.

This process works from our tracking and management and actually goes right back to our originating banks, where they progress immediate action for global blacklisting and reporting.

In this way, we directly help everyone out, because as the bank reports the details go on global blacklists for many other banks and processors.

;-)

artman · 11-21-2007, 12:47 AM

maybe the chargebacks were from transactions done months ago. just because it shows 5 chargebacks for this period does not mean that the sales that were chargedback were done during this period

CuriousToyBoy · 11-21-2007, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artman

maybe the chargebacks were from transactions done months ago. just because it shows 5 chargebacks for this period does not mean that the sales that were chargedback were done during this period

Amen to that also.

Some banks/processors mass process or at least batch process CB's at different times of the day/week/month.

UncutBucksMike · 11-21-2007, 04:48 AM

I know sometimes with check sign ups sometimes it takes 2-3 days before it is returned for insufficent funds. Just a guess as to why you are seeing it chargeback so quickly.

Hugs,
Jen

D · 11-21-2007, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livegirlsonbed

If a credit card is flagged by visa/mastercard as stolen, why the payment processor/s accept its?!

I think the suggestion was that the charge went through right before the card was flagged as stolen.

justsexxx · 11-21-2007, 04:54 AM

Maybe it were joins by check? When the info is okay, they get access, after a few days the processor find out it's fake, and it will appear as CB in your stats maybe

gandalfuy · 11-21-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

Maybe it were joins by check? When the info is okay, they get access, after a few days the processor find out it's fake, and it will appear as CB in your stats maybe

yeah, charge back checks suck bad time

xsabn · 11-22-2007, 10:01 PM

maybe they shave some $$$ from your account..which sponsor is about. can you tell us?

rowan · 11-23-2007, 12:27 AM

Are you able to match up account numbers to be sure that the chargebacks are from this period?

Do the stats show refunds separately? Maybe they were actually refunds.

livegirlsonbed · 11-24-2007, 02:40 AM

i will don't like to offense any sponsor. Sorry, i will don't share the sponsor name.
It's possible? A sponsor to shave my earnings by showing unreal charge-backs?!
Yes, i have detailed stats, it's about 1000$ CB in a week- 290$ my cut from 5-6 members.

Penny24Seven · 11-24-2007, 05:01 AM

lol I have 5 all year and it shows as .01%

After Shock Media · 11-24-2007, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livegirlsonbed

i will don't like to offense any sponsor. Sorry, i will don't share the sponsor name.
It's possible? A sponsor to shave my earnings by showing unreal charge-backs?!
Yes, i have detailed stats, it's about 1000$ CB in a week- 290$ my cut from 5-6 members.

Do not feel bad man and do not automatically blame the sponsor. It was very damn recently I got nailed for 5 chargebacks at once to my own program for sale I personally made and on top of it, it was the SAME FUCKING PERSON. Yup they pulled a 5 month chargeback. They tried to do all 6 but one was to old apparently. Oh and yes I checked this person had been using my site a few times a week.

Kevsh · 11-24-2007, 05:47 AM

I've had chargebacks the same day on webcam sites. It's easy: Guy calls/emails customer service the same day and it's reversed. I imagine that can happen with pay site programs as well.

11-20-2007, 11:32 PM	#1
livegirlsonbed Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 487	How can a sponsor to show the charge backs after only 1-2 days?! Hi there! What about charge backs?! How may i be sure my CB/Refunds can be real of faked transaction showed by my sponsor?! If this period i does 30 sales, today i can to see 5 sales was charge backs. How is that possible?! Maybe those sales can be fraud i don't know ..but I know that to see a charge back will be like 2 or 3 month to find out. The strange question is : How you "as sponsor" can to know that so faster after just few hours or 1-2-3 days?! I use in one of my web site CCBILL, EPOCH, and each one of this find out about charge back after 2 or 3 month. Good luck to all and fuck off with all carders Last edited by livegirlsonbed; 11-20-2007 at 11:35 PM..

11-20-2007, 11:34 PM	#2
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11-20-2007, 11:36 PM	#3
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11-20-2007, 11:38 PM	#4
GrouchyAdmin Now choke yourself! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 12,085	Usually they show up afterwards, so if you have '5' chargebacks, they're a total of 5 registered today over the whole period. There WERE 21 days this month, and even if you are paid out twice a month, there have been 6 days since the last period. Only 30 sales, though, you're lucky if you don't get banned from an affiliate. That's crappy. __________________ AIM: GrouchyGfy

11-21-2007, 12:38 AM	#9
CuriousToyBoy Crazy Aussie Bastard Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wherever I lay my hat, that's my home. Posts: 16,787	LionDollars for one, and we are not the only ones, have HIGHLY advanced fraud protection backed into our own merchant processing. Sometimes fraudulent transactiosn are identified immediately, sometimes within 5 minutes of the same and sometimes can take longer. Bottom line is that they are picked up FAST and immediate removal, blacklisting AND reporting happen instantaneously to any discovery. This process works from our tracking and management and actually goes right back to our originating banks, where they progress immediate action for global blacklisting and reporting. In this way, we directly help everyone out, because as the bank reports the details go on global blacklists for many other banks and processors. ;-) __________________ Celebs Adult Who's Who ==> Ambush Interview ==> ICQ 293 070 684 ==> intmarpacrim AT gmail DOT com

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11-21-2007, 12:47 AM	#10
artman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 770	maybe the chargebacks were from transactions done months ago. just because it shows 5 chargebacks for this period does not mean that the sales that were chargedback were done during this period __________________

11-21-2007, 04:48 AM	#12
UncutBucksMike Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NOWHWERE NEAR Northern KY USA Posts: 405	I know sometimes with check sign ups sometimes it takes 2-3 days before it is returned for insufficent funds. Just a guess as to why you are seeing it chargeback so quickly. Hugs, Jen __________________ [email protected] ICQ: 328265145 Promote Naughty Wife Next Door Jen Madison

11-21-2007, 04:54 AM	#14
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Maybe it were joins by check? When the info is okay, they get access, after a few days the processor find out it's fake, and it will appear as CB in your stats maybe __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

11-22-2007, 10:01 PM	#16
xsabn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 203-069-778 Posts: 2,815	maybe they shave some $$$ from your account..which sponsor is about. can you tell us?

11-23-2007, 12:27 AM	#17
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Are you able to match up account numbers to be sure that the chargebacks are from this period? Do the stats show refunds separately? Maybe they were actually refunds.

11-24-2007, 02:40 AM	#18
livegirlsonbed Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 487	i will don't like to offense any sponsor. Sorry, i will don't share the sponsor name. It's possible? A sponsor to shave my earnings by showing unreal charge-backs?! Yes, i have detailed stats, it's about 1000$ CB in a week- 290$ my cut from 5-6 members. Last edited by livegirlsonbed; 11-24-2007 at 02:41 AM..

11-24-2007, 05:01 AM	#19
Penny24Seven So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 6,287	lol I have 5 all year and it shows as .01% __________________ Our site is coming soon. It will be one of the best ever! I know so. Brian and Penny

11-24-2007, 05:47 AM	#21
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	I've had chargebacks the same day on webcam sites. It's easy: Guy calls/emails customer service the same day and it's reversed. I imagine that can happen with pay site programs as well.