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livegirlsonbed 11-20-2007 11:32 PM

How can a sponsor to show the charge backs after only 1-2 days?!
 
Hi there!

What about charge backs?! How may i be sure my CB/Refunds can be real of faked transaction showed by my sponsor?!

If this period i does 30 sales, today i can to see 5 sales was charge backs:mad:.
How is that possible?!

Maybe those sales can be fraud i don't know ..but

I know that to see a charge back will be like 2 or 3 month to find out.

The strange question is : How you "as sponsor" can to know that so faster after just few hours or 1-2-3 days?!

I use in one of my web site CCBILL, EPOCH, and each one of this find out about charge back after 2 or 3 month.

Good luck to all and fuck off with all carders:warning

pr0 11-20-2007 11:34 PM

5 through your refcode?

1) you're doing it yourself
2) someone really really hates you
3) you run a high profile site

I'm leaning towards 1 & 2, with your broken english.

After Shock Media 11-20-2007 11:36 PM

Maybe some cards are already flagged by visa/mastercard as stolen, then when it gets sent through it bounces back as a chargeback?

Honestly do not know but i did get one in my paysite in uder 16 hours once.

GrouchyAdmin 11-20-2007 11:38 PM

Usually they show up afterwards, so if you have '5' chargebacks, they're a total of 5 registered today over the whole period. There WERE 21 days this month, and even if you are paid out twice a month, there have been 6 days since the last period.

Only 30 sales, though, you're lucky if you don't get banned from an affiliate. That's crappy.

livegirlsonbed 11-21-2007 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 13400313)
5 through your refcode?

1) you're doing it yourself

2) someone really really hates you

3) you run a high profile site


Hi!

1. Absolutely no.
2. i don't know.
3. I run a cam site, who receive good cam traffic from SE.

livegirlsonbed 11-21-2007 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 13400315)
Maybe some cards are already flagged by visa/mastercard as stolen, then when it gets sent through it bounces back as a chargeback?

Honestly do not know but i did get one in my paysite in uder 16 hours once.

If a credit card is flagged by visa/mastercard as stolen, why the payment processor/s accept its?!

livegirlsonbed 11-21-2007 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 13400324)
Usually they show up afterwards, so if you have '5' chargebacks, they're a total of 5 registered today over the whole period. There WERE 21 days this month, and even if you are paid out twice a month, there have been 6 days since the last period.

Only 30 sales, though, you're lucky if you don't get banned from an affiliate. That's crappy.

lol

I hope is normal to don't accept sales who come from fraudulent countries, that's not my problem, the traffic come from google, what control my i can to have to a cobranded site !?

The same type of traffic i sent to other sponsor where i have around 1600 sales this year and no chargebacks?!

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CuriousToyBoy 11-21-2007 12:38 AM

LionDollars for one, and we are not the only ones, have HIGHLY advanced fraud protection backed into our own merchant processing.

Sometimes fraudulent transactiosn are identified immediately, sometimes within 5 minutes of the same and sometimes can take longer.

Bottom line is that they are picked up FAST and immediate removal, blacklisting AND reporting happen instantaneously to any discovery.

This process works from our tracking and management and actually goes right back to our originating banks, where they progress immediate action for global blacklisting and reporting.

In this way, we directly help everyone out, because as the bank reports the details go on global blacklists for many other banks and processors.

;-)

artman 11-21-2007 12:47 AM

maybe the chargebacks were from transactions done months ago. just because it shows 5 chargebacks for this period does not mean that the sales that were chargedback were done during this period

CuriousToyBoy 11-21-2007 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artman (Post 13400534)
maybe the chargebacks were from transactions done months ago. just because it shows 5 chargebacks for this period does not mean that the sales that were chargedback were done during this period

Amen to that also.

Some banks/processors mass process or at least batch process CB's at different times of the day/week/month.

:2 cents::thumbsup

UncutBucksMike 11-21-2007 04:48 AM

I know sometimes with check sign ups sometimes it takes 2-3 days before it is returned for insufficent funds. Just a guess as to why you are seeing it chargeback so quickly.

Hugs,
Jen

D 11-21-2007 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livegirlsonbed (Post 13400423)
If a credit card is flagged by visa/mastercard as stolen, why the payment processor/s accept its?!

I think the suggestion was that the charge went through right before the card was flagged as stolen.

justsexxx 11-21-2007 04:54 AM

Maybe it were joins by check? When the info is okay, they get access, after a few days the processor find out it's fake, and it will appear as CB in your stats maybe

gandalfuy 11-21-2007 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx (Post 13401055)
Maybe it were joins by check? When the info is okay, they get access, after a few days the processor find out it's fake, and it will appear as CB in your stats maybe

yeah, charge back checks suck bad time :Oh crap

xsabn 11-22-2007 10:01 PM

maybe they shave some $$$ from your account..which sponsor is about. can you tell us?

rowan 11-23-2007 12:27 AM

Are you able to match up account numbers to be sure that the chargebacks are from this period?

Do the stats show refunds separately? Maybe they were actually refunds.

livegirlsonbed 11-24-2007 02:40 AM

i will don't like to offense any sponsor. Sorry, i will don't share the sponsor name.
It's possible? A sponsor to shave my earnings by showing unreal charge-backs?!
Yes, i have detailed stats, it's about 1000$ CB in a week- 290$ my cut from 5-6 members. :(

Penny24Seven 11-24-2007 05:01 AM

lol I have 5 all year and it shows as .01%

After Shock Media 11-24-2007 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livegirlsonbed (Post 13413033)
i will don't like to offense any sponsor. Sorry, i will don't share the sponsor name.
It's possible? A sponsor to shave my earnings by showing unreal charge-backs?!
Yes, i have detailed stats, it's about 1000$ CB in a week- 290$ my cut from 5-6 members. :(

Do not feel bad man and do not automatically blame the sponsor. It was very damn recently I got nailed for 5 chargebacks at once to my own program for sale I personally made and on top of it, it was the SAME FUCKING PERSON. Yup they pulled a 5 month chargeback. They tried to do all 6 but one was to old apparently. Oh and yes I checked this person had been using my site a few times a week.

Kevsh 11-24-2007 05:47 AM

I've had chargebacks the same day on webcam sites. It's easy: Guy calls/emails customer service the same day and it's reversed. I imagine that can happen with pay site programs as well.


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