Forced Exodus of BitTorrent Sites Is Imminent - GoFuckYourself.com

Aussie Rebel · 11-22-2007, 04:08 PM

Interesing read

The Dutch ISP LeaseWeb can?t take the pressure from BREIN anymore. As a preliminary measure they have now ordered dozens of BitTorrent sites - including some big-shots - to pack their stuff before December 1st, leave LeaseWeb and find a new home.

Last week we reported that LeaseWeb forced SumoTorrent to move to another ISP due to pressure from BREIN. In that article we published a list of other potential BRIEN targets hosted by LeaseWeb (we left out dozens of other sites) including mybittorrent.com, btmon.com, btjunkie.org, seedpeer.com, what.cd and waffles.fm.

Over the past few days several admins of the sites in this list confirmed to TorrentFreak that they indeed got a letter from LeaseWeb in which they were asked to move their websites before the end of the month. At this point it is not sure whether the dozens of other, mostly smaller private BitTorrent communities, received a similar letter. A questionable request since BitTorrent sites are not considered to be illegal according to Dutch law.

However, it seems that LeaseWeb has succumbed to BREIN?s pressure as it orders its clients to take all BitTorrent related material from their servers before December 1st. LeaseWeb takes this proactive measure to protect their clients they say, but it?s not needed since the court order that BREIN has applies ONLY to everlasting.nl and not to all other BitTorrent sites

One of the biggest mistakes they made in the process is to hand over the personal details of the SumoTorrent administrator. Somehow LeaseWeb was under the impression that they had to give this information to BREIN, thereby violating the privacy of one of their clients. This mistake also contradicts a statement LeaseWeb gave earlier this week to ISPam.nl, where they said that they are not allowed to give customer information to a third party without a funded request.

One of the big questions right now is where on earth all the BitTorrent sites will go now that LeaseWeb is a no-go. There are still some other options in The Netherlands and countries like Canada and Sweden, but they are slowly running out of alternatives.

LeaseWeb announced that it will appeal the decision in the everlasting.nl case, ?LeaseWeb has filed an appeal and will keep fighting for its client?s privacy and right of freedom of expression up to the highest court.? We wish them well.
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Klen · 11-22-2007, 04:35 PM

Mybittorent is already moved to another host in uk so this wont cause any effect for them and for other sites i dont know.

StarkReality · 11-22-2007, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Mybittorent is already moved to another host in uk so this wont cause any effect for them and for other sites i dont know.

Short term maybe, but it won't be as easy for them to find new homes and places to hide. It has become a political thing and supporting copyright violations is something no country wants to be blamed for long term.

Klen · 11-22-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by StarkReality

Short term maybe, but it won't be as easy for them to find new homes and places to hide. It has become a political thing and supporting copyright violations is something no country wants to be blamed for long term.

I speaked with admin of mybittorent and he said they move there beacuse they know people from anti pirracy organizations in UK so they wont touch them.

F-U-Jimmy · 11-22-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Mybittorent is already moved to another host in uk so this wont cause any effect for them and for other sites i dont know.

Moved to the UK ? good luck with that, im sure they will be moving again within weeks. They take ? theft seriously over there...

Klen · 11-22-2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy

Moved to the UK ? good luck with that, im sure they will be moving again within weeks. They take ? theft seriously over there...

Correction,they move to mexico.

WiredGuy · 11-22-2007, 05:53 PM

There will always be a host willing to take torrent traffic. Worst case, they'll just keep jumping from host to host. The problem won't go away by cutting the hosts off.
WG

$5 submissions · 11-22-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

There will always be a host willing to take torrent traffic. Worst case, they'll just keep jumping from host to host. The problem won't go away by cutting the hosts off.
WG

QUOTED FOR TRUTH

Klen · 11-22-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

There will always be a host willing to take torrent traffic. Worst case, they'll just keep jumping from host to host. The problem won't go away by cutting the hosts off.
WG

Well only solution is to hit the owner directly if you ask me.

Barefootsies · 11-22-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

There will always be a host willing to take torrent traffic. Worst case, they'll just keep jumping from host to host. The problem won't go away by cutting the hosts off.
WG

minusonebit · 11-22-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

There will always be a host willing to take torrent traffic. Worst case, they'll just keep jumping from host to host. The problem won't go away by cutting the hosts off.
WG

You're right. All the rules in the world including threatened de-linking by upstream never has stopped the spammers. CP is still out there despite the fact that is terribly illegal. People who think they can stop torrents are deluding themselves. Wont stop the torrents. The best that is going to be had is the torrents will be driven back underground. Or FTPs and Fserve will make a resurgence.

WiredGuy · 11-22-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Well only solution is to hit the owner directly if you ask me.

Cut off their revenue and they'll close up shop. Much easier than prosecuting and sending out C&D's like mad.
WG

Aussie Rebel · 11-22-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Cut off their revenue and they'll close up shop. Much easier than prosecuting and sending out C&D's like mad.
WG

I agree, I hope some of these big companies start prosecuting companies like AFF and Python then maybe other companies might think twice about funding these thieves

blogman9 · 11-23-2007, 02:45 AM

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Klen · 11-23-2007, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Cut off their revenue and they'll close up shop. Much easier than prosecuting and sending out C&D's like mad.
WG

Hardly.I mean let's say aff start to terminating accounts on all torrent sites and warez sites.You think that will generate any effect?No,they will switch to dating gold or any other dating sponsor so i bet nobody will refuse that money.So tehnicly it's impossible to cut revenue.Only solution now is espionage approach-act to be their supporter,become torrent moderator,and delete adult torrents as much is possible.

wyldworx · 11-23-2007, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Hardly.I mean let's say aff start to terminating accounts on all torrent sites and warez sites.You think that will generate any effect?No,they will switch to dating gold or any other dating sponsor so i bet nobody will refuse that money.So tehnicly it's impossible to cut revenue.Only solution now is espionage approach-act to be their supporter,become torrent moderator,and delete adult torrents as much is possible.

hence the rise of 'BANGO'.

11-22-2007, 04:08 PM	#1
Aussie Rebel Blow Me U Geeks Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maximum Security Posts: 5,108	Forced Exodus of BitTorrent Sites Is Imminent Interesing read The Dutch ISP LeaseWeb can?t take the pressure from BREIN anymore. As a preliminary measure they have now ordered dozens of BitTorrent sites - including some big-shots - to pack their stuff before December 1st, leave LeaseWeb and find a new home. Last week we reported that LeaseWeb forced SumoTorrent to move to another ISP due to pressure from BREIN. In that article we published a list of other potential BRIEN targets hosted by LeaseWeb (we left out dozens of other sites) including mybittorrent.com, btmon.com, btjunkie.org, seedpeer.com, what.cd and waffles.fm. Over the past few days several admins of the sites in this list confirmed to TorrentFreak that they indeed got a letter from LeaseWeb in which they were asked to move their websites before the end of the month. At this point it is not sure whether the dozens of other, mostly smaller private BitTorrent communities, received a similar letter. A questionable request since BitTorrent sites are not considered to be illegal according to Dutch law. However, it seems that LeaseWeb has succumbed to BREIN?s pressure as it orders its clients to take all BitTorrent related material from their servers before December 1st. LeaseWeb takes this proactive measure to protect their clients they say, but it?s not needed since the court order that BREIN has applies ONLY to everlasting.nl and not to all other BitTorrent sites One of the biggest mistakes they made in the process is to hand over the personal details of the SumoTorrent administrator. Somehow LeaseWeb was under the impression that they had to give this information to BREIN, thereby violating the privacy of one of their clients. This mistake also contradicts a statement LeaseWeb gave earlier this week to ISPam.nl, where they said that they are not allowed to give customer information to a third party without a funded request. One of the big questions right now is where on earth all the BitTorrent sites will go now that LeaseWeb is a no-go. There are still some other options in The Netherlands and countries like Canada and Sweden, but they are slowly running out of alternatives. LeaseWeb announced that it will appeal the decision in the everlasting.nl case, ?LeaseWeb has filed an appeal and will keep fighting for its client?s privacy and right of freedom of expression up to the highest court.? We wish them well. http://torrentfreak.com/forced-exodu...-sites-071122/

11-22-2007, 05:53 PM	#7
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,485	There will always be a host willing to take torrent traffic. Worst case, they'll just keep jumping from host to host. The problem won't go away by cutting the hosts off. WG __________________ I play with Google.

11-22-2007, 04:35 PM	#2
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Mybittorent is already moved to another host in uk so this wont cause any effect for them and for other sites i dont know.

11-23-2007, 02:45 AM	#14
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