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Aussie Rebel 11-22-2007 04:08 PM

Forced Exodus of BitTorrent Sites Is Imminent
 
Interesing read

The Dutch ISP LeaseWeb can?t take the pressure from BREIN anymore. As a preliminary measure they have now ordered dozens of BitTorrent sites - including some big-shots - to pack their stuff before December 1st, leave LeaseWeb and find a new home.

Last week we reported that LeaseWeb forced SumoTorrent to move to another ISP due to pressure from BREIN. In that article we published a list of other potential BRIEN targets hosted by LeaseWeb (we left out dozens of other sites) including mybittorrent.com, btmon.com, btjunkie.org, seedpeer.com, what.cd and waffles.fm.

Over the past few days several admins of the sites in this list confirmed to TorrentFreak that they indeed got a letter from LeaseWeb in which they were asked to move their websites before the end of the month. At this point it is not sure whether the dozens of other, mostly smaller private BitTorrent communities, received a similar letter. A questionable request since BitTorrent sites are not considered to be illegal according to Dutch law.

However, it seems that LeaseWeb has succumbed to BREIN?s pressure as it orders its clients to take all BitTorrent related material from their servers before December 1st. LeaseWeb takes this proactive measure to protect their clients they say, but it?s not needed since the court order that BREIN has applies ONLY to everlasting.nl and not to all other BitTorrent sites

One of the biggest mistakes they made in the process is to hand over the personal details of the SumoTorrent administrator. Somehow LeaseWeb was under the impression that they had to give this information to BREIN, thereby violating the privacy of one of their clients. This mistake also contradicts a statement LeaseWeb gave earlier this week to ISPam.nl, where they said that they are not allowed to give customer information to a third party without a funded request.

One of the big questions right now is where on earth all the BitTorrent sites will go now that LeaseWeb is a no-go. There are still some other options in The Netherlands and countries like Canada and Sweden, but they are slowly running out of alternatives.

LeaseWeb announced that it will appeal the decision in the everlasting.nl case, ?LeaseWeb has filed an appeal and will keep fighting for its client?s privacy and right of freedom of expression up to the highest court.? We wish them well.
http://torrentfreak.com/forced-exodu...-sites-071122/

Klen 11-22-2007 04:35 PM

Mybittorent is already moved to another host in uk so this wont cause any effect for them and for other sites i dont know.

StarkReality 11-22-2007 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 13407803)
Mybittorent is already moved to another host in uk so this wont cause any effect for them and for other sites i dont know.

Short term maybe, but it won't be as easy for them to find new homes and places to hide. It has become a political thing and supporting copyright violations is something no country wants to be blamed for long term.

Klen 11-22-2007 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by StarkReality (Post 13407863)
Short term maybe, but it won't be as easy for them to find new homes and places to hide. It has become a political thing and supporting copyright violations is something no country wants to be blamed for long term.

I speaked with admin of mybittorent and he said they move there beacuse they know people from anti pirracy organizations in UK so they wont touch them.

F-U-Jimmy 11-22-2007 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 13407803)
Mybittorent is already moved to another host in uk so this wont cause any effect for them and for other sites i dont know.


Moved to the UK ? good luck with that, im sure they will be moving again within weeks. They take ? theft seriously over there...

Klen 11-22-2007 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 13407992)
Moved to the UK ? good luck with that, im sure they will be moving again within weeks. They take ? theft seriously over there...

Correction,they move to mexico.

WiredGuy 11-22-2007 05:53 PM

There will always be a host willing to take torrent traffic. Worst case, they'll just keep jumping from host to host. The problem won't go away by cutting the hosts off.
WG

$5 submissions 11-22-2007 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13408040)
There will always be a host willing to take torrent traffic. Worst case, they'll just keep jumping from host to host. The problem won't go away by cutting the hosts off.
WG

QUOTED FOR TRUTH

Klen 11-22-2007 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13408040)
There will always be a host willing to take torrent traffic. Worst case, they'll just keep jumping from host to host. The problem won't go away by cutting the hosts off.
WG

Well only solution is to hit the owner directly if you ask me.

Barefootsies 11-22-2007 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13408040)
There will always be a host willing to take torrent traffic. Worst case, they'll just keep jumping from host to host. The problem won't go away by cutting the hosts off.
WG

:2 cents:

minusonebit 11-22-2007 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13408040)
There will always be a host willing to take torrent traffic. Worst case, they'll just keep jumping from host to host. The problem won't go away by cutting the hosts off.
WG

You're right. All the rules in the world including threatened de-linking by upstream never has stopped the spammers. CP is still out there despite the fact that is terribly illegal. People who think they can stop torrents are deluding themselves. Wont stop the torrents. The best that is going to be had is the torrents will be driven back underground. Or FTPs and Fserve will make a resurgence.

WiredGuy 11-22-2007 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 13408052)
Well only solution is to hit the owner directly if you ask me.

Cut off their revenue and they'll close up shop. Much easier than prosecuting and sending out C&D's like mad.
WG

Aussie Rebel 11-22-2007 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13408141)
Cut off their revenue and they'll close up shop. Much easier than prosecuting and sending out C&D's like mad.
WG

I agree, I hope some of these big companies start prosecuting companies like AFF and Python then maybe other companies might think twice about funding these thieves

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Klen 11-23-2007 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13408141)
Cut off their revenue and they'll close up shop. Much easier than prosecuting and sending out C&D's like mad.
WG

Hardly.I mean let's say aff start to terminating accounts on all torrent sites and warez sites.You think that will generate any effect?No,they will switch to dating gold or any other dating sponsor so i bet nobody will refuse that money.So tehnicly it's impossible to cut revenue.Only solution now is espionage approach-act to be their supporter,become torrent moderator,and delete adult torrents as much is possible.

wyldworx 11-23-2007 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 13409637)
Hardly.I mean let's say aff start to terminating accounts on all torrent sites and warez sites.You think that will generate any effect?No,they will switch to dating gold or any other dating sponsor so i bet nobody will refuse that money.So tehnicly it's impossible to cut revenue.Only solution now is espionage approach-act to be their supporter,become torrent moderator,and delete adult torrents as much is possible.

hence the rise of 'BANGO'.


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