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the indigo · 09-22-2002, 10:11 PM

We are always ready to move our servers to a new home if the deal is good enough. We may or not leave our current hosting company within 45 days... so here's your chance to grab a potential 15000+ GIG/month burner customer within 12 months.

What we need:

(2) Servers Running on Unix

1. P3 1000mhz, 1GB RAM, 3x72 SCSI HD
2. P4 1.6+ Ghz, 1GB RAM, 18GB+ SCSI HD

Bandwitdh Quality (No Cogent!) - 100% Uptime... not 99.8%

To start, we only need 1500 GIGS/Month and will grow 10x after that. We pay per gig or average bandwitdh.

If you can not offer this below $700/month, don't lose your time. I know real quality host can offer us this at a great price.

Same deal if you can not offer $0.30/gig overage on quality traffic.

- No setup fees
- No long term contract
- No early termination fees
- Full server stats, MRTGs, Full Support 24/7 + ICQ Support 24/7

ICQ Support 24/7 is a real ++PLUS

Let's the SPAM goin' now...

dodoboy86 · 09-22-2002, 10:15 PM

then go get it somewhere else. ....FAG..

High Quality · 09-22-2002, 10:18 PM

Talk to Alek at oxeo. He'll hook you up.

www.oxeo.com

darksoul · 09-22-2002, 10:27 PM

you're not asking much for 700$

beemk · 09-22-2002, 10:39 PM

good luck finding a deal like that.

theres no such thing as 100% uptime anyways. anyone telling you that is full of shit.

Brad Mitchell · 09-22-2002, 10:48 PM

hahahahahhahahahahahhahaahah

You're quite green.

Pipecrew · 09-22-2002, 11:04 PM

Poor Guy is a newbie, Cut him some slack hahaha

the indigo · 09-22-2002, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
Poor Guy is a newbie, Cut him some slack hahaha

Yeah sure, that's probably why we paid more than $50,000 USD in the last 12 months for hosting.

Dumbass. We just know it's possible. The other thread last month was a service I did for DH.

deniska · 09-22-2002, 11:25 PM

Hit me up on icq. ISPrime offers premium bgp4 bandwidth (not cogent), 100% Uptime, 24 hours support by toll free/email/icq.

DennisS · 09-22-2002, 11:33 PM

hit me up on icq, i will give you the price that you want.

we got 24/7 support icq,email,phone,aim

slackor · 09-22-2002, 11:36 PM

how exactly can you offer 100% uptime?

Quote:

Originally posted by deniska
Hit me up on icq. ISPrime offers premium bgp4 bandwidth (not cogent), 100% Uptime, 24 hours support by toll free/email/icq.

Mr.Fiction · 09-22-2002, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo

Yeah sure, that's probably why we paid more than $50,000 USD in the last 12 months for hosting.

$700x12=$8400

the indigo · 09-22-2002, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

$700x12=$8400

we currently are on a 50k/year contract that we don't need to re-new short-term.

Past, Present and Future are different things, you know

Mr.Fiction · 09-22-2002, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo

Past, Present and Future are different things, you know

I fucking hope so!

asmdude2001 · 09-23-2002, 12:03 AM

Contract or no contract, there is something called fair market price. If your bound to a 50,000$ contract now and are thinking of changing to a $700/month commitment you have serious mental problems for not coming up with this absolutely stupefying idea earlier!

Why switch? Seems like your making those 50K payments and the bandwidth your using now is premium cuz your always up, otherwise you'd have bailed. All in all I'd say you got yourself a great deal and stick with your current provider.

Brad Mitchell · 09-23-2002, 04:06 AM

Dude, just consider the math. Sure, it's possible. But isn't a host that has some margin a bit healthier?

Ok, give me $3000 in servers. Lets ammortize that cost over 12 months with a simple interest of 10% on the equipment because it's financed... that's about $275/mo in hardware cost to the hosting company.

Also, I want 1500 gigs per month. That's 5mbit sustained or a peak of about 10mbit.

If I am a host that is not overselling bandwidth and I have a teriffic price... let's say like Like Whoa, Candid or SinHost... Then my cost for 10mbit is between $400-500. Otherwise, the cost on the sustained 5mbit that might be capped would be $200-$250. That is the cost because a gigabit is running me about 40k/mo from Verio or an equivalent.

Do the math... plus people need to be paid, routers and switches need to be bought. I can understand wanting a good deal but the math above is a reality. Shouldn't you be suspect if someone offers exactly what you're looking for now that you know the numbers?

Brad

cotsios · 09-23-2002, 04:29 AM

www.cyprusmedia.net

Contact me on icq : 149389211 or AIM : konper

I can give you a dedicated server on a good deal .

Lower than $700

Cya

HQ · 09-23-2002, 05:51 AM

All that for $700/month is impossible. SinEmpire is right.

notjoe · 09-23-2002, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cotsios
www.cyprusmedia.net

Contact me on icq : 149389211 or AIM : konper

I can give you a dedicated server on a good deal .

Lower than $700

Cya

Really? So you're willing to undercut your customers who pay .75/GIG (in your tag line) for this guy to pay what works out to .47/gig which doesnt even include the servers?

Lets say you knock 200 monthly off the 700 for server rental, that leaves you with a price of .33/gig.. Probably Cogent bandwidth ;)

Give me more details as i might be interested in a price of .33/gig and i'll supply my own server!

Joe

im4u2nvme · 09-23-2002, 06:06 AM

Hit me up on icq and i'll see what I can do for you

icq: 155359037

cotsios · 09-23-2002, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe

Really? So you're willing to undercut your customers who pay .75/GIG (in your tag line) for this guy to pay what works out to .47/gig which doesnt even include the servers?

Lets say you knock 200 monthly off the 700 for server rental, that leaves you with a price of .33/gig.. Probably Cogent bandwidth ;)

Give me more details as i might be interested in a price of .33/gig and i'll supply my own server!

Joe

0.75 per gb is for virtual packages. We can offer $0.25 per Gb for dedicated server.

If you are interest contact me.

the indigo · 09-23-2002, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by asmdude2001
Contract or no contract, there is something called fair market price. If your bound to a 50,000$ contract now and are thinking of changing to a $700/month commitment you have serious mental problems for not coming up with this absolutely stupefying idea earlier!

Why switch? Seems like your making those 50K payments and the bandwidth your using now is premium cuz your always up, otherwise you'd have bailed. All in all I'd say you got yourself a great deal and stick with your current provider.

Contract was signed one year ago. The "fair price market" has changed A LOT since then, and we left the business during the summer, so we don't need a XXXmb/s line anymore. Right now it's a total waste of money.

Like a said to another one, Past, Present and Future are different things, there's nothing crazy in this industry.

the indigo · 09-23-2002, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Dude, just consider the math. Sure, it's possible. But isn't a host that has some margin a bit healthier?

Ok, give me $3000 in servers. Lets ammortize that cost over 12 months with a simple interest of 10% on the equipment because it's financed... that's about $275/mo in hardware cost to the hosting company.

Also, I want 1500 gigs per month. That's 5mbit sustained or a peak of about 10mbit.

If I am a host that is not overselling bandwidth and I have a teriffic price... let's say like Like Whoa, Candid or SinHost... Then my cost for 10mbit is between $400-500. Otherwise, the cost on the sustained 5mbit that might be capped would be $200-$250. That is the cost because a gigabit is running me about 40k/mo from Verio or an equivalent.

Do the math... plus people need to be paid, routers and switches need to be bought. I can understand wanting a good deal but the math above is a reality. Shouldn't you be suspect if someone offers exactly what you're looking for now that you know the numbers?

Brad

Brad, I do not think, Honestly, that SinHost can play in the league of ISPrime, Likewhoa, etc. in the first place. You know the game, the more you buy, cheaper it is. The key line is "here's your chance to..."

Anyway your competition says it all.

T-Rav · 09-23-2002, 09:16 AM

I will not say we can get to $700/month for the services listed above. However, I can say that you will receive the best service and support in the industry. We have many customers that have been with us for years, and I am sure you would recognize them. They would all be glad to speak on our behalf.

If you are serious about your service, support, and uptime feel free to contact me and we can discuss your specific needs.

Thank you for your time,

Travis Phipps
Mach 10 Hosting
icq: 66985399

Asthma · 09-23-2002, 09:22 AM

the indigo hit me up I have a gig pipe with global crossing i can hook you up with a good deal.

Kevin. C
ICQ 76002502

Wiredoctor · 09-23-2002, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
Dude, just consider the math. Sure, it's possible. But isn't a host that has some margin a bit healthier?

Ok, give me $3000 in servers. Lets ammortize that cost over 12 months with a simple interest of 10% on the equipment because it's financed... that's about $275/mo in hardware cost to the hosting company.

Also, I want 1500 gigs per month. That's 5mbit sustained or a peak of about 10mbit.

If I am a host that is not overselling bandwidth and I have a teriffic price... let's say like Like Whoa, Candid or SinHost... Then my cost for 10mbit is between $400-500. Otherwise, the cost on the sustained 5mbit that might be capped would be $200-$250. That is the cost because a gigabit is running me about 40k/mo from Verio or an equivalent.

Do the math... plus people need to be paid, routers and switches need to be bought. I can understand wanting a good deal but the math above is a reality. Shouldn't you be suspect if someone offers exactly what you're looking for now that you know the numbers?

Brad

Very well said

Indigo, may I just add......Your a waste of time, whoever hosts you at the price and services your asking, is an Idiot, and most likely won't last to long in the hosting business.
Just my 2 cents.

Brad Mitchell · 09-23-2002, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo

Brad, I do not think, Honestly, that SinHost can play in the league of ISPrime, Likewhoa, etc. in the first place. You know the game, the more you buy, cheaper it is. The key line is "here's your chance to..."

Anyway your competition says it all.

You're right, I'm not nearly as big as Like Whoa, ISPrime, Techiemedia, or Candid. They have more clients, pipe and employees. With more time, patience and hard work perhaps I'll mature to be their size someday. However, the current size of my business doesn't preclude me from doing a quality job and having the ability to compete.

You said the more I buy... the cheaper it is? Well, listen up because you're about to eat your words. I pay marginally more then those other companies do. Lil 'ole SinHost is at $54/mbit while the above list of companies are paying only a little bit less than I am. So, kiss my butt! I have it cheap too. They just had to buy much more than me to get their current pricing.

Brad

ibjem2 · 09-23-2002, 02:39 PM

ICQ me at 160541645 to talk about what we can do at LikeWhoa for you.

The price point you have listed is very agressive and I'd like to talk to you more about how we can help you out perhaps.

Thanks!

L0stMind · 09-23-2002, 02:41 PM

I am with Brad on this one Indigo - for a host to make a profit at $700/month is not very feasible.

Even if bandwidth were free, it is tough to squeeze a profit outta that.

Your host has to cover the cost of your 2 servers... thats at a minimum $275/month cost to the host (Brad is probably being generously low on the cost too)... that leaves $425 per month in profit.

Add bandwidth costs of $30/mbps *7.5 (most hosts still pay 95th percentile so they have to cover your spikes, and $30/mbps is a cheap tier1 cost) and that comes out to: $225

leaving $200 in profit.

Now a real host has to pay employees ($4000/month each), office expenses, colo fees, taxes, phone bills, inventory, networking equipment and so on.

So, after all that shit is figured in, your host is losing money on your business.

remember all the dot.bomb crashes? if you are willing to gamble your online business then feel free to go to a no profit host. Save you money in the short run but I hope you have a strong heart to stand the stress when your business goes offline.....

well, my two cents. I am sure you dont give a fuck anyways

L0stMind · 09-23-2002, 02:42 PM

Oh, and one last thought - you should stay away from P4 servers.. they seriously suck ass.

Intel screwed that cpu horribly - go with P3 or AMD.

the indigo · 09-23-2002, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by L0stMind
Oh, and one last thought - you should stay away from P4 servers.. they seriously suck ass.

Intel screwed that cpu horribly - go with P3 or AMD.

Thanks for the tip, I will keep it in mind

the indigo · 09-23-2002, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by L0stMind
I am with Brad on this one Indigo - for a host to make a profit at $700/month is not very feasible.

Even if bandwidth were free, it is tough to squeeze a profit outta that.

Your host has to cover the cost of your 2 servers... thats at a minimum $275/month cost to the host (Brad is probably being generously low on the cost too)... that leaves $425 per month in profit.

Add bandwidth costs of $30/mbps *7.5 (most hosts still pay 95th percentile so they have to cover your spikes, and $30/mbps is a cheap tier1 cost) and that comes out to: $225

leaving $200 in profit.

Now a real host has to pay employees ($4000/month each), office expenses, colo fees, taxes, phone bills, inventory, networking equipment and so on.

So, after all that shit is figured in, your host is losing money on your business.

remember all the dot.bomb crashes? if you are willing to gamble your online business then feel free to go to a no profit host. Save you money in the short run but I hope you have a strong heart to stand the stress when your business goes offline.....

well, my two cents. I am sure you dont give a fuck anyways

Great post here. We know which hosts are the best so we will stick with the big one. Support and uptime is really important.

As for the price... this thread is to get the best one and the most attention. I think it's a success

09-22-2002, 10:11 PM	#1
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	I need a kickass Hosting deal... We are always ready to move our servers to a new home if the deal is good enough. We may or not leave our current hosting company within 45 days... so here's your chance to grab a potential 15000+ GIG/month burner customer within 12 months. What we need: (2) Servers Running on Unix 1. P3 1000mhz, 1GB RAM, 3x72 SCSI HD 2. P4 1.6+ Ghz, 1GB RAM, 18GB+ SCSI HD Bandwitdh Quality (No Cogent!) - 100% Uptime... not 99.8% To start, we only need 1500 GIGS/Month and will grow 10x after that. We pay per gig or average bandwitdh. If you can not offer this below $700/month, don't lose your time. I know real quality host can offer us this at a great price. Same deal if you can not offer $0.30/gig overage on quality traffic. - No setup fees - No long term contract - No early termination fees - Full server stats, MRTGs, Full Support 24/7 + ICQ Support 24/7 ICQ Support 24/7 is a real ++PLUS Let's the SPAM goin' now... Last edited by the indigo; 09-22-2002 at 10:15 PM..

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09-22-2002, 10:48 PM	#6
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09-22-2002, 10:15 PM	#2
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09-22-2002, 11:04 PM	#7
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09-22-2002, 11:25 PM	#9
deniska Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Miami Beach, FL Posts: 1,053	Hit me up on icq. ISPrime offers premium bgp4 bandwidth (not cogent), 100% Uptime, 24 hours support by toll free/email/icq.

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09-23-2002, 12:03 AM	#15
asmdude2001 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 23	Contract or no contract, there is something called fair market price. If your bound to a 50,000$ contract now and are thinking of changing to a $700/month commitment you have serious mental problems for not coming up with this absolutely stupefying idea earlier! Why switch? Seems like your making those 50K payments and the bandwidth your using now is premium cuz your always up, otherwise you'd have bailed. All in all I'd say you got yourself a great deal and stick with your current provider. __________________ Hi?

09-23-2002, 04:06 AM	#16
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	Dude, just consider the math. Sure, it's possible. But isn't a host that has some margin a bit healthier? Ok, give me $3000 in servers. Lets ammortize that cost over 12 months with a simple interest of 10% on the equipment because it's financed... that's about $275/mo in hardware cost to the hosting company. Also, I want 1500 gigs per month. That's 5mbit sustained or a peak of about 10mbit. If I am a host that is not overselling bandwidth and I have a teriffic price... let's say like Like Whoa, Candid or SinHost... Then my cost for 10mbit is between $400-500. Otherwise, the cost on the sustained 5mbit that might be capped would be $200-$250. That is the cost because a gigabit is running me about 40k/mo from Verio or an equivalent. Do the math... plus people need to be paid, routers and switches need to be bought. I can understand wanting a good deal but the math above is a reality. Shouldn't you be suspect if someone offers exactly what you're looking for now that you know the numbers? Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

09-23-2002, 04:29 AM	#17
cotsios Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,371	www.cyprusmedia.net Contact me on icq : 149389211 or AIM : konper I can give you a dedicated server on a good deal . Lower than $700 Cya __________________ SIGNATURE FOR SALE - SEND Icq 149389211

09-23-2002, 05:51 AM	#18
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	All that for $700/month is impossible. SinEmpire is right.

09-23-2002, 06:06 AM	#20
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09-23-2002, 09:16 AM	#24
T-Rav Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Austin Posts: 64	I will not say we can get to $700/month for the services listed above. However, I can say that you will receive the best service and support in the industry. We have many customers that have been with us for years, and I am sure you would recognize them. They would all be glad to speak on our behalf. If you are serious about your service, support, and uptime feel free to contact me and we can discuss your specific needs. Thank you for your time, Travis Phipps Mach 10 Hosting icq: 66985399 __________________ Travis

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09-23-2002, 02:39 PM	#28
ibjem2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC, capital of the world Posts: 178	ICQ me at 160541645 to talk about what we can do at LikeWhoa for you. The price point you have listed is very agressive and I'd like to talk to you more about how we can help you out perhaps. Thanks!

09-23-2002, 02:41 PM	#29
L0stMind Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancity Posts: 1,681	I am with Brad on this one Indigo - for a host to make a profit at $700/month is not very feasible. Even if bandwidth were free, it is tough to squeeze a profit outta that. Your host has to cover the cost of your 2 servers... thats at a minimum $275/month cost to the host (Brad is probably being generously low on the cost too)... that leaves $425 per month in profit. Add bandwidth costs of $30/mbps *7.5 (most hosts still pay 95th percentile so they have to cover your spikes, and $30/mbps is a cheap tier1 cost) and that comes out to: $225 leaving $200 in profit. Now a real host has to pay employees ($4000/month each), office expenses, colo fees, taxes, phone bills, inventory, networking equipment and so on. So, after all that shit is figured in, your host is losing money on your business. remember all the dot.bomb crashes? if you are willing to gamble your online business then feel free to go to a no profit host. Save you money in the short run but I hope you have a strong heart to stand the stress when your business goes offline..... well, my two cents. I am sure you dont give a fuck anyways

09-23-2002, 02:42 PM	#30
L0stMind Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancity Posts: 1,681	Oh, and one last thought - you should stay away from P4 servers.. they seriously suck ass. Intel screwed that cpu horribly - go with P3 or AMD.