You are wrong, as I was, there is no such thing as copyright laws .....

And apparently in Canada, judgement had passed that argues P2P sharing is legal:

Actual case law source: http://reports.fja.gc.ca/en/2004/200...88.html?tag=nl

welcome to the new world order

Perhaps you will under stand it this way...
 

Copyright law is intended to protect the creators right of saying that he or she had written such materials, like lets say a book or even a computer program. Such copyright law is intended to protect intellectual property, which is not covered under law... now when a person makes a copy of materials not for republication like scanning a book or a computer program code then there is no new claim to the content... now when you copy someones else's work and claim it as your own then you are plagiarizing yourself...

Now when you make a copy of a program you are not plagiarizing yourself, because you are not claiming that you had created it... within many user agreements there are section within as to define how such programs can be used and such touches on contractual law, but this is not copyright law.

I can understand if for example someone took computer code or writings that someone came up with and used their concepts and passages and wrote a new book or a computer program then claimed it as their own... but making a personal copy of a software program is not the same.

Just to clearify my point of view.

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Lol ......

again you are equating seeding with giving away your content and it it not the same thing/

In the case of torrents you give a small piece to hundreds of people

As i have pointed out you can create 254 copies and never give a single person a single working copy.

when still begs the question which you keep ducking, how is giving 254 non working copies of your video hurt you commercially.

I bet this tactic will work on %95 of all torrent sites on the net!

neither canadian or US law talk about personal use. The fair use provision which defines rights outside the scope of the exclusive rights granted by the act (your backup example) talks about non commercial use.

for the scope of fair use you have no copyright protections whatsoever, so distribution is legal. That why it is perfectly legal for a friend to lend me his vcr copy of smallvile when the power goes out in my house.(as long as he does charge money == non commercial)

I am wrong.. your all right :) I couldn't edit my original post after I found the caselaw source... anyways.. i'm going to go back and make more galleries now and shut up! Have a nice day!

"Copyright law is a creature of statute and it does not assist the interpretive analysis to import tort concepts.

Under Act, subsection 80(1), the downloading of a song for a person's private use does not constitute infringement.

There was here no evidence that the alleged infringers either distributed or authorized the reproduction of sound

recordings. All they did was place personal copies into shared directories accessible by other computer users. The

judgment of the Supreme Court of Canada in CCH Canadian Ltd. v. Law Society of Upper Canada is authority for the

proposition that the provision of facilities that allow copying does not amount to authorizing infringement. How is

what was done here different from a library placing a photocopier in a room full of copyrighted material? In either

case the element of authorization is missing. McLachlin C.J. wrote in her CCH opinion that courts "should presume that

a person who authorizes an activity does not only so far as it is in accordance with the law"."

"Nor is there distribution absent a positive act by the owner of the shared directory, such as sending copies or

advertising the material's availability for copying. While the exclusive right of making available is covered by the

World Intellectual Property Organization Performances and Phonograms Treaty of 1996, it remains to be implemented by

Canada and so forms no part of our law of copyright. Again, secondary infringement had not been made out since

knowledge on the infringer's part, a necessary condition under subsection 27(2) of the Copyright Act, was not

demonstrated."


". . . copyright law is neither tort law nor property law in classification, but is statutory law. It neither cuts

across existing rights in property or conduct nor falls between rights and obligations heretofore existing in the

common law. Copyright legislation simply creates rights and obligations upon the terms and in the circumstances set

out in the statute. This creature of statute has been known to the law of England at least since the days of Queen

Anne when the first copyright statute was passed. It does not assist the interpretive analysis to import tort

concepts. The legislation speaks for itself and the actions of the appellant must be measured according to the terms

of the statute."


Taken from: http://reports.fja.gc.ca/en/2004/200...88.html?tag=nl

50 pirates tieing 50 scarvy dogs to the yard arm, and giving each 50 lashes.

Copyright: The exclusive legal right to reproduce, publish, sell, or distribute the matter and form of something (as a literary, musical, or artistic work.

To clarify... Exclusive means that the creator/author/assigns are the ONLY people legally permitted to do what you're doing...

It says nothing about protection from plagarism... which has it's own set of laws..

Perhaps Canada should use a word other than, "copyright" in their laws.. It has a meaning..

Dont pretty much all licensing agreements between the 'user' and the 'copyright' holders include phrases such as 'any part' of this software may not be distributed? Even if your seeding a torrent your still giving away 'parts' of a script that is protected by copyright.

hit me up. (mr rebel:))

Here is some Canadian Case law for you Scootermuze !

http://reports.fja.gc.ca/en/2004/200...88.html?tag=nl

Give up Scooter, it's hopeless

You are a fucking retard L-Pink!

You're hopeless... Can't even read a little... fucking looser...

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Gideon, does your mom know you visit porn boards? She will get upset if she catches you.

You go on and on about "giving little pieces". It's horseshit, because your intent isn't to give 100 people 100 little pieces that are useless, but to give 100 people 100 little pieces and they can get the other 99 peices from the other people and they all end up with the same 100 pieces and a total product.

Your intent is to share the file with others, period. It doesn't matter the METHOD, it matters the intent. You want other people to end up with a complete work without paying.

All the rest is total horseshit, you know it. Just go the fuck back to your torrent chat rooms and leave us alone already. Your a fucking ass.

Is this a new marketing technique I dont know about ? Side with the people that take food out of the mouths of the industry you want to do business with. Man you must be much smarter than me.

actually the act says

where section 107 (fair use)

the act goes on to explain the rules on how to courts should define other fair uses (see timeshifting in the betamax case) but once that fair use rights the exclusive rights granted under sections 106 and 106 a DO NOT APPLY (that what notwithstanding means)

for the scope of fair use you have no copyright therefore you have no exclusive rights

I suggest you check out the site defendfairuse.org your misrepresentation (pretending the notwithstanding clause does not exist) is exactly the type of abuse that this group is designed to fight against.

tony404, you are really low as to say something like that to me...

I am point things out for what they are, not depriving anyone of anything... so shove your negative point of view up your big ass of yours.

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With reference to U.S. law... sharing/distributing a full copy of copyrighted material does NOT fall with the fair use doctrine...

Letting a friend borrow your video is too petty to even discuss... Placing the full copy on a file sharing site; knowing that others can and will copy it is a far cry from fair use.

If you'll read the Fair Use portion of the law, you'll see that copying and distributing material that results in a negative affect on it's market is not fair use..

So all movie companies and record labels should just walk away from it all... put millions of dollars into their works so people can copy it all and distribute it so others can get it free....

Yep.. definitely fair use...

Tony is right, get a grip.

There was here no evidence that the alleged infringers either distributed or authorized the reproduction of sound recordings. All they did was place personal copies into shared directories accessible by other computer users.

The courts' interpretations in Canada are as bad as some in the U.S.

Guys, quit answering Gideon, it is pointless. This child has nothing better to do than crank out the same useless drivel from his torrent buddies, not even understanding it for himself. This loser thinks that fair use means he can give stuff away on the internet for free.

FUCKING IDIOT.

Gideon, seriously. Go away. You are a shitstain.

I have just a few dislikes about Americans (U.S.)

1. ) You do not control the world but act like your laws are above other nations.
2. ) Anything you see of value you will try to control with intent to deprive. ( long political history of such actions)
3. ) When your logic fails then all is fair game and all niceties are lost at the drop of the hat.

Most Americans I have met personally or do business with seem to be nice honest people, perhaps these are the educated ones... but from time to time I am reminded why the US has the reputation it does...

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Balal, I hope the company you are repping is proud of your opinion of american and american webmasters, content companies, and production companies.

Would Yappo like it if I opened Yapposhare and put up all your content and gave it away for free? After all, I am in Canada.

Tool.

Why am I low? Have you had to beg to get a whole rip of your pay site off of a BT? I have more than once.Its my sweat and blood, its costs money to create content for it to be given away to sell aff memberships hurts. These places hurt our industry all bullshit aside, for you to be flippant about the whole thing is upsetting.Have you created anything that was just given away,your livelihood given away for free?

Tony, he balal has convinced me single handed not to promote yappo. I was actually looking for a PPV replacement for another program too. Odd how that happens.

I dont think he is a bad guy,I just think its not happened to him so he doesnt understand.

Don't like our laws, then don't use our products, services or citizens to make your living .... I'm as honest as you will ever find.

I forgive Canada for your presence.



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But we have copyright laws that at least try to make sense....

Scooter, ignore him and the company he pimps. His true feelings and character have been exposed.

Wow the stupidity by L-Pink & RawAlex is fucking amazing !
 

RawAlex = fail in logic = attack

Yappo has the best support I know of and I have nothing but respect for them as a whole.

I'm all for the idea of making money and the porn industry as a whole, but the porn industry is loosing billions yearly or should I say not making forecasted revenues... so automatically it is assumed that the problem is file sharing aka P2P and such people are acting out of spite for the big boys in the porn industry... because they feel that they can...

So I say this...

There is tuns of free porn just being given away as to promote the different adult associate programs out there... and with all the many thousands of TGP/MGPs showing free pictures and short videos... most surfers are just fine with that... and don't bother to go for the quality content being offered professionally.

Another issue is the quality of traffic being sent to the adult associate programs... the conversion rates are really low because of the tuns of crap CJ traffic which turns out to be the mainstream bartering tool.

Perhaps if the porn industry put out less promotional materials, as a whole, for their webmasters and focused in the mainstream non Internet they would most likely do just fine for themselves, but most likely this will not happen...

The Noobs who join up to a adult associate programs are forced to learn the hard way by coming to forums and talking to their competition who do not want to give "trade" secrets away freely so they charge a stupid amount of money for a stupid simple fix... and give very poor advice.

Quantity over quality is a very big issue in the porn industry mainly in the webmaster side of things and not the actual content producers problem...

This is my point of view regarding the porn industry... I think many adult webmasters who are not doing well need to find some escape goat because they have not learned to market their content and look bad to their associate owners...


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Balal, congrats. You have made yourself look like an ass and totally discredited the company you are pimping.

Keep going. The only think you are missing is to borrow money from a bunch of people and drunkenly throw a chair off a balcony at a show to be a true professional porn rep.

Jim The Fiend will be calling you soon for tips.

You might want to get a backhoe, you can dig that hole faster.

I can handle a personal atack on a global level... yea I can... ^^
 

Alright your fucking retard L-Pink you speak for your country like you own it and i'll do the same... Your country had a half of trillion dollars put into it to get it out of the toilet because your economy is not well managed... You have China who threated to dump trillions of its US dollars... well if they did your US dollar would hit around 40 cents perhaps 30 cents Canadian ... would I find that funny hell yea now I would now.

I might not represent Canada, but I don't lose either!


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RawAlex get you head out of your ass!

Your are a real flake RawAlex... go join you army they will beat it out of you!
 

You have http://www.ftc.gov/ as your homepage you are a real dumb fuck!

"Federal Trade Commission --- Protecting America's Consumers" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Caution dog crossing !!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


This is almost fun...

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They should have broken his fucking hands to send a message.

The file sharing has gone too far. These guys have convinced themselves they are doing no wrong. It's time to bring them back to the real world.