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Old 07-12-2004, 04:18 PM   #1
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you think Epic Cash shaves?

well sorry to say it, but we dont!

just ask http://clicktruth.com

we use them and they audit us at random!

so fuck off haters, pimpdizzle in this shizzle f0 rizzle

can you hizzle?
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Old 07-12-2004, 04:19 PM   #2
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The auditing idea for sponsors is great! Keep the big boys in check.
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i approach sponsors like this.

EVERYONE IS SHAVING.

simple as that.
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i approach sponsors like this.

EVERYONE IS SHAVING.

simple as that.
well atleast that way you wont be let down when you find out they really are

lol
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Old 07-12-2004, 04:23 PM   #5
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I dont care what you say. Just keep sending me my checks.
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well atleast that way you wont be let down when you find out they really are

lol
the only way to be sure.

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Old 07-12-2004, 04:23 PM   #7
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well sorry to say it, but we dont!

just ask http://clicktruth.com

we use them and they audit us at random!

so fuck off haters, pimpdizzle in this shizzle f0 rizzle

can you hizzle?
are you still using them.. thats what we want to know.. and if they would have find you cheating.. then what? They'll go call you out on GFY?
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are you still using them.. thats what we want to know.. and if they would have find you cheating.. then what? They'll go call you out on GFY?
are we still using them?

yes.. join thier site and let them audit your traffic to us or any other sponsor that uses them!

and they wont catch us cheating so it isnt an issue.. we dont cheat

why is everyone so negative in the world today?

cocksucker!
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I dont care what you say. Just keep sending me my checks.
too funny...what's your beef?
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Old 07-12-2004, 04:25 PM   #10
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How can clicktruth tell?
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very hard to audit programs, cash goes a loooooong way
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Old 07-12-2004, 04:26 PM   #12
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How can clicktruth tell?
Indeed. Do they join on random base themselves and see if the joins show up? Or do they just look at YOUR admin and WEBMASTER admin?>

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How can clicktruth tell?
What exactly does ClickTruth? Audit?
Sign ups and traffic. We send traffic through our system. It then goes to the sponsor as normal. We arrange with the Sponsor program and the processor, to receive the Credit card post-back data. Accompanied by the raw hit count, the Sponsor?s sign up count, and a few other propriety information streams, Clicktruth can see very quickly if there is an anomaly in the system, and the reporting of sign-ups..

We then compare the info from the post-back data, as well as our own required information to the results the sponsor reports.

ClickTruth? routinely audits each program through a 12 point proprietary system. Participating webmasters? traffic may be included in these audits but it will be transparent to any user of the ClickTruth system.
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What exactly does ClickTruth? Audit?
Sign ups and traffic. We send traffic through our system. It then goes to the sponsor as normal. We arrange with the Sponsor program and the processor, to receive the Credit card post-back data. Accompanied by the raw hit count, the Sponsor?s sign up count, and a few other propriety information streams, Clicktruth can see very quickly if there is an anomaly in the system, and the reporting of sign-ups..

We then compare the info from the post-back data, as well as our own required information to the results the sponsor reports.

ClickTruth? routinely audits each program through a 12 point proprietary system. Participating webmasters? traffic may be included in these audits but it will be transparent to any user of the ClickTruth system.
ok and their incentives for doing this is what?
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ok and their incentives for doing this is what?
i guess affiliates pay them to audit traffic for them

we also pay them 100 a month to use thier service.
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We arrange with the Sponsor program and the processor, to receive the Credit card post-back data.
What does this mean? So they get the postback data from you and from the processor? How can they legally get this data from the processor? How do they know the data sent to them from you is valid?
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too funny...what's your beef?
I have no beef with Epic. I use them. They make me money. They have a lot of niche sites that do a good job converting. I wish them nothing but continued success.

Pimpdogg just has a habit of going insane on GFY every so often, so I have him on ignore. Nothing personal.
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What does this mean? So they get the postback data from you and from the processor? How can they legally get this data from the processor? How do they know the data sent to them from you is valid?
ask them
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How can clicktruth tell?
Thats a good question.
the marketing answer is pretty much located here
http://www.clicktruth.com/clicktruth2.htm

but basically how it works is that the sponsor puts in hooks into their affiliate program. whenever a signup comes in they report the signups information to clicktruth (the information is the transaction number from the processor and the affiliate id).

Now, click truth will do occasional random audits on each sponsor that click truth supports. the sponsor has no way of knowing which signups are click truth audited transactions, so when the signup goes through and the sponsor reports the information to clicktruth, clicktruth knows the transaction id from the processor and they know the affiliate they signed up through, so if the information from the sponsor comes back to clicktruth all the information should jive, if not there is a problem.
Also as an affiliate if you wish for your traffic to a specific sponsor to be audited, click truth will audit your specific traffic for a small fee.

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I have no beef with Epic. I use them. They make me money. They have a lot of niche sites that do a good job converting. I wish them nothing but continued success.

Pimpdogg just has a habit of going insane on GFY every so often, so I have him on ignore. Nothing personal.
hey thats all that matters..

you dont need to like me to make money
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cocksucker!

if only you had some quality sites that converts... that thread might have been relevant...
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ask them
I'll stick to the magic 8 ball pic... I don't see any validity in their system at all.
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They don't have to shave, they just shut your account down and keep your earnings!
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if only you had some quality sites that converts... that thread might have been relevant...
poor thing, you need help converting your traffic?

we can help you!

call 1-800-you-suck

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I'll stick to the magic 8 ball pic... I don't see any validity in their system at all.
The system is valid and very real i assure you.

Click Truth is also built into MPA3 as an option for anybody to put into their affiliate program.
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They don't have to shave, they just shut your account down and keep your earnings!
Your account just got shut off.
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I'll stick to the magic 8 ball pic... I don't see any validity in their system at all.
what dont you understand?

its written there in plain english.
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Your account just got shut off.
we already killed his acct for chargeback ratio being way to high..

typical scumbag scamming shithead piece of shit
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ahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahha

i guess all the big programs I work with and scam pay me thousands of dollars for the past 3 years are getting scammed, right?

what a retard you are buddy, you were completely born in a barn, do you think making childish 1800gofuckyourself remarks will change the fact that YOU'RE the scammer and you don't need to shave because

YOU SHUT ACCOUNTS DOWN IF THEY GET CANCELS BECAUSE YOU CANNOT CONVERT THE TRAFFIC, IE YOUR BACKEND SUCKS SO INSTEAD OF PAYING THE WEBMASTER CUZ U SUCK YOU KEEP THE MONEY


SCAMMER ALERT: EPICCASH
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I forgot my 100% chargeback ratio I got, right? Out of 100 signups, all charged back.

Bahhhhhhhh Bahhhhhh right p1mpgoat
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ahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahha

i guess all the big programs I work with and scam pay me thousands of dollars for the past 3 years are getting scammed, right?

what a retard you are buddy, you were completely born in a barn, do you think making childish 1800gofuckyourself remarks will change the fact that YOU'RE the scammer and you don't need to shave because

YOU SHUT ACCOUNTS DOWN IF THEY GET CANCELS BECAUSE YOU CANNOT CONVERT THE TRAFFIC, IE YOUR BACKEND SUCKS SO INSTEAD OF PAYING THE WEBMASTER CUZ U SUCK YOU KEEP THE MONEY


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lol i was not born in a barn!

everything is true tho!
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I was told by what i consider a very reliable source that 90 %
of sponsors shave. I was told that sponsors MUST do this in order to stay profitable.
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I forgot my 100% chargeback ratio I got, right? Out of 100 signups, all charged back.

Bahhhhhhhh Bahhhhhh right p1mpgoat
you had 100 sales?

lol you dont even have 100 hits, how the fuck you gonna sit here and tell me you had 100 sales moron?
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of sponsors shave. I was told that sponsors MUST do this in order to stay profitable.
maybe so, then they have shitty buisness models.

we are in the 10% that dont i guess.
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I had 82 according to my last years statsremote.



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heh

so you had 82 cb's out of 82 sales?

your traffic really does suck then

lol
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Did you buy this company or set it up from scratch?
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ya, sure does

then so does your sites, your backend, and everything about epiccash

I think i'll change my logo and put a banner up for epiccash, maybe I can make some money from referred shut non-paid accounts right pimpgoat?

bahhhh bahhhhh now follow your flock of partners bahhhh bahhhh
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wow...so yet another party has access to a surfers private information....

i cannot see how this would benefint anyone...
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we can help you!

call 1-800-you-suck

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Trying your luck with humor? watch out some people might mistake you for a retard..

You think I need help converting my traffic...? nice one..

Your site sucks.. people promote you because they are too lazy to find better sponsors.. None of your sites would make profit on a hun paid listing... That tells alot...

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Without trying to be an ass:-)

So they copmpare your postback data from for example paycom.

What if you "shave" the signups to another paycom account...That way the audit won't see the difference....

Again not SAYING YOU DO shave...But just curious how the system works in this case...

Do they join themselve as well so now and then to see if they get credit? And do they join from multiple countries? I mean you can shave for example German customers to the "second" paycom account...

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