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p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 09:13 AM

I cannot use my current atorney becuase he has written a brief for them a few years ago, so that would be a conflict of interest. anyone know of a good attorney that I can contact to sue zango?

not joking here. we sent them that letter to be put on the exclusion list and we continue to get about 4k hits a day from them according to referral logs. time to collect on all these months of stolen joins.

scottybuzz · 11-05-2007, 09:15 AM

ill park my cheeky sig here

RawAlex · 11-05-2007, 09:15 AM

You don't get it?

Exclusion list would mean people couldn't bid on your domains. It wouldn't stop anyone from buying traffic from Zango and sending it to you.

You need to terminate those affiliates buying zango traffic. There is nothing a lawyer can do with Zango that will stop it.

Those "rogue affiliates" can really do you in.

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

You don't get it?

Exclusion list would mean people couldn't bid on your domains. It wouldn't stop anyone from buying traffic from Zango and sending it to you.

You need to terminate those affiliates buying zango traffic. There is nothing a lawyer can do with Zango that will stop it.

Those "rogue affiliates" can really do you in.

since i cannot track down what afifliates are doing it, im going to kill zango all together.

and besides theya re stealing joins from us and redirecting them to a dif sponsor. not even my site. thats what im sueing over.

dont you get it?

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 09:17 AM

and yes there certianly is something a lawyer can do to stop zango. theya re breaking atleast 4 laws. figure that out for yourself. ill handle my company how i see fit. thanks though for your input

RawAlex · 11-05-2007, 09:19 AM

Stop Zango from what? if you are getting 4k traffic from Zango, what is the legal basis to go after them? Just set up your servers to block the zango referer and you won't get traffic from them anymore. What is so difficult?

pornask · 11-05-2007, 09:19 AM

Can't help directly there, but here's a bump for the good cause. I myself am not affected as adult is not my primary source of revenue, but I do understand the urgency of situation and am happy to see someone having balls to stand up and fight it. Hope more program owners chime in to land a supportive hand to help win the fight. Here’s a bump for epic cash

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

Stop Zango from what? if you are getting 4k traffic from Zango, what is the legal basis to go after them? Just set up your servers to block the zango referer and you won't get traffic from them anymore. What is so difficult?

are you retarded? i just told you they are redirectng traffic from my site to their own sponsor.

DEA - banned for life · 11-05-2007, 09:21 AM

lol........

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tranza · 11-05-2007, 09:21 AM

Don't those logs show how many people that have Zango installed visit your sites???

How could you sue them??

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p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 09:22 AM

their page pops over my join page and steals the join. the surfer thinks teya re joining my site and instead are joining zangos sponsor. whoever bid on that keyword is who is getting the join. prolly am.com or sexsearch or some thing related to my site that was intended to be joned. are we clear now?

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

Don't those logs show how many people that have Zango installed visit your sites???

How could you sue them??

what is so hard to undersnd about this.

they are stealing joins from my site by poping their own join page over my join page based on kaeyword searches. i am losing sales.

it is theft of service, fraud and conversion. those are 3 charges theya re guilty of, or soon will be.

Damian_Maxcash · 11-05-2007, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

since i cannot track down what afifliates are doing it, im going to kill zango all together.

and besides theya re stealing joins from us and redirecting them to a dif sponsor. not even my site. thats what im sueing over.

dont you get it?

Unless you have a LOT more than I think you actually have then I would rethink the 'Im going to kill zango all together' stratagey.

They are out of your league......

Oracle Porn · 11-05-2007, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

Don't those logs show how many people that have Zango installed visit your sites???

How could you sue them??

he doesn't know simple math you want him to know how to read stats? he doesn't need to know how to read stats anyhow, he owns a successful program....

Damian_Maxcash · 11-05-2007, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

since i cannot track down what afifliates are doing it, im going to kill zango all together.

and besides theya re stealing joins from us and redirecting them to a dif sponsor. not even my site. thats what im sueing over.

dont you get it?

Unless you have a LOT more than I think you actually have then I would rethink the 'Im going to kill zango all together' stratagey.

They are out of your league......

RawAlex · 11-05-2007, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

their page pops over my join page and steals the join. the surfer thinks teya re joining my site and instead are joining zangos sponsor. whoever bid on that keyword is who is getting the join. prolly am.com or sexsearch or some thing related to my site that was intended to be joned. are we clear now?

I am guessing english isn't your first language. It only took you 5 posts to finally spit it out.

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we continue to get about 4k hits a day from them

This is what you said, and it has nothing to do with what your problem is.

No wonder you get into so many arguments around here, you can't even express yourself.

spacedog · 11-05-2007, 09:34 AM

I think enough adult companies are fed up with Zango..

Several of them should band together for a large class action.

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001

Unless you have a LOT more than I think you actually have then I would rethink the 'Im going to kill zango all together' stratagey.

They are out of your league......

id much rather settle out of court and have them leave my sites alone. and if i can get an attorney to take it on contingency, then who cares

Damian_Maxcash · 11-05-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

id much rather settle out of court and have them leave my sites alone. and if i can get an attorney to take it on contingency, then who cares

In that case - good luck

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog

I think enough adult companies are fed up with Zango..

Several of them should band together for a large class action.

i alreayd have 1 company that will join me in the suit. need 4 more to foile a class action suit. help find me 4 more

pornask · 11-05-2007, 09:41 AM

I'm not a big fan of pimpdog's myself, but why would so many people nuke his thread in which he's asking for a pointer. If you have something to offer in regards to the original post, then post it, but why come here and nuke the thread with anti pimpgod posts. WTF???

I wish I could be of any decent assistance in the fight-against-zango movement, but even though I can't I'm still in favor of it and would like to see if it maybe could bring results.

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask

I'm not a big fan of pimpdog's myself, but why would so many people nuke his thread in which he's asking for a pointer. If you have something to offer in regards to the original post, then post it, but why come here and nuke the thread with anti pimpgod posts. WTF???

I wish I could be of any decent assistance in the fight-against-zango movement, but even though I can't I'm still in favor of it and would like to see if it maybe could bring results.

look who it is thats doing that nuking? that idiot dea as usual and the moron raw alex that is just jealous

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DEA - banned for life · 11-05-2007, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask

I'm not a big fan of pimpdog's myself, but why would so many people nuke his thread in which he's asking for a pointer. If you have something to offer in regards to the original post, then post it, but why come here and nuke the thread with anti pimpgod posts. WTF???

why not? He a bag of stale dog shit and if i want to lite it on fire and leave it on gfy's front doorstep so be it

Far-L · 11-05-2007, 10:14 AM

We have an attorney working on it. Hit me up if you are interested and can let bygones be bygones about all the monkey crap we have flung at each other over the years.

digifan · 11-05-2007, 10:17 AM

Good luck!

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

We have an attorney working on it. Hit me up if you are interested and can let bygones be bygones about all the monkey crap we have flung at each other over the years.

do you have enough for a class action? i have another program that is interested in sueing them aswell. so tats 2 more for you. lmk

Tom_PM · 11-05-2007, 10:24 AM

I'm just a dumb idiot, but wouldn't this fall under the FTC?

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 10:25 AM

well either way, im interested if you already are working on it. whats your IM. we have video proof of them hijacking our join page

SleazyDream · 11-05-2007, 10:25 AM

go pimple go

WarChild · 11-05-2007, 10:27 AM

I'm a little confused myself. You say you're getting 4K hits from Zango, but the problem is Zango popping other join pages over your own. Fair enough, that's theft and should be stopped. However, that 4K hits is not a measurment of Zango popping over your join form. How could it be? Zango isn't sending the traffic to you, remember, it's going to a different join page.

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild

I'm a little confused myself. You say you're getting 4K hits from Zango, but the problem is Zango popping other join pages over your own. Fair enough, that's theft and should be stopped. However, that 4K hits is not a measurment of Zango popping over your join form. How could it be? Zango isn't sending the traffic to you, remember, it's going to a different join page.

our referal logs show 4k hits per day AVG. that has 0 todo with how many joins they are stealing form us. the 2 are unrelated. i was just saying that we are getting traffic from ppl with zango on their computers further validating my point that we are being hit by zango. that along with the physical evidence/video proof of them poping their join page over ours.

thats all i was saying just not clearly i guess.

Tom_PM · 11-05-2007, 10:32 AM

I think if you can count that 4000 people who have it installed have visited you, there COULD be a potential loss to show.. Historical overall data would show that 1:xxx people who visit, join up. So there's where a dollar amount could be shown. I guess

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 10:34 AM

cool, left 2 msg's with 2 dif attorneys and waiting for FAR-L to leave his info.

anyone who knows me knows i dont allow anyone to fuck me over. ask eric suchomski and mike hood. the law is a beautiful thing

WarChild · 11-05-2007, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

our referal logs show 4k hits per day AVG. that has 0 todo with how many joins they are stealing form us. the 2 are unrelated. i was just saying that we are getting traffic from ppl with zango on their computers further validating my point that we are being hit by zango. that along with the physical evidence/video proof of them poping their join page over ours.

thats all i was saying just not clearly i guess.

Ahhh okay that makes more sense. Go get the fuckers.

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I think if you can count that 4000 people who have it installed have visited you, there COULD be a potential loss to show.. Historical overall data would show that 1:xxx people who visit, join up. So there's where a dollar amount could be shown. I guess

ofcoarse there is a loss to show. we have proof our avg conversion ratio is 1:xxx and if they sent us 4k hits x 1 year or 2 years thats a shit load of joins. plus damages, plus fees, plus punitive damges if any plus whatever else we want to throw in there. we can get more than just damages

Tom_PM · 11-05-2007, 10:41 AM

Yeah makes sense. Thats how I was guessing you could show damage amounts.

If I was in J-mart and at the point of sale some employee from Best-bargains jumped up and took my money, I'd be complaining to whatever commision is in charge of regulating trade. As a consumer that is.

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 10:57 AM

calling Far-L, where are you? lets get things rolling

u-Bob · 11-05-2007, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask

I myself am not affected as adult is not my primary source of revenue

if you really think Zango doesn't target mainstream sites, think again.

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 11:07 AM

i didnt know there were so many people that didnt understand what zango was doing. especially professionals like raw alex. Mr Knowitall. haha

the one idiot that seems to think he knows everything about everything doesnt get how zango works. crazy

dav3 · 11-05-2007, 11:18 AM

Good luck dude! I remember seeing some one (I think it was will76) paste a similar post of yours here, from another board, about a month or so ago. I can't believe that it's even remotely difficult to find other program owners to jump on board with this.

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dav3

Good luck dude! I remember seeing some one (I think it was will76) paste a similar post of yours here, from another board, about a month or so ago. I can't believe that it's even remotely difficult to find other program owners to jump on board with this.

a majority of them think they are not affected. i dnt think i was either until i took 5 minutes out of my day and checked out referrer logs on the server. zango has like 3 or 4 other names it uses for the same basic product. anyways, there are a ton of programs out there and on this board thata re affected and they dont even realize it. sad.

Far-L hitme up or post your info so i can contact you. lets get the ball rolling

pornask · 11-05-2007, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob

if you really think Zango doesn't target mainstream sites, think again.

well, unless they can steal my AdSense ads and direct advertising revenue, I have not much to worry about. I don't sell membership on any of my websites. I am in support of getting them out of business either way.

Far-L · 11-05-2007, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

calling Far-L, where are you? lets get things rolling

Sorry - had to run out and get my morning coffee... (remember in Seattle that is the law)

We could certainly try to go for a class action if the attorneys recommend that is the best way to go.

Hit me up timlake AT homegrownvideo Dot com and I will send you contact info.

p1mpdogg · 11-05-2007, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

Sorry - had to run out and get my morning coffee... (remember in Seattle that is the law)

We could certainly try to go for a class action if the attorneys recommend that is the best way to go.

Hit me up timlake AT homegrownvideo Dot com and I will send you contact info.

sent you an email

u-Bob · 11-05-2007, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask

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they can pop up sites over any kind of site.

RawAlex · 11-05-2007, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

i didnt know there were so many people that didnt understand what zango was doing. especially professionals like raw alex. Mr Knowitall. haha

the one idiot that seems to think he knows everything about everything doesnt get how zango works. crazy

Dumbass, I know EXACTLY what they are doing. You can't explain yourself worth shit, so it is hard to understand what you are getting upset about. If you could actually form complete thoughts and type them in english, people would understand you better.

If you said "out of all of our visitors, about 4,000 per day have Zango installed. While our conversions rates are typically 1 in 500, none of the zango customers who make it to the join page ever join our sites. I have a feeling that Zango may be popping another sites join page on top of our join page, which steals out joins. I want to find a lawyer so I can get them to stop doing this" - everyone would have understood you.

Don't try to put you shortcomings onto the rest of us. Think before you write.

Varius · 11-05-2007, 12:09 PM

We're already on suing them for months now, the damn US courts are soooooooooo backed up though we are awaiting a court date still.

Our case is pretty simple, we have trademark on domains of ours they use in their bidding system which we have asked be removed multiple times before. They also, in a matter of speaking, told us 'fuck off you can't do anything to us as you guys are in costa rica'.

Hrm guess they never heard of companies with trademarks and incorporations in multiple countries

11-05-2007, 09:13 AM	#1
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	looking for attorney to sue zango. I cannot use my current atorney becuase he has written a brief for them a few years ago, so that would be a conflict of interest. anyone know of a good attorney that I can contact to sue zango? not joking here. we sent them that letter to be put on the exclusion list and we continue to get about 4k hits a day from them according to referral logs. time to collect on all these months of stolen joins. __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

11-05-2007, 09:15 AM	#2
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11-05-2007, 09:17 AM	#5
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	and yes there certianly is something a lawyer can do to stop zango. theya re breaking atleast 4 laws. figure that out for yourself. ill handle my company how i see fit. thanks though for your input __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

11-05-2007, 09:21 AM	#9
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11-05-2007, 09:21 AM	#10
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Don't those logs show how many people that have Zango installed visit your sites??? How could you sue them?? __________________ I'm just a newbie.

11-05-2007, 09:15 AM	#3
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	You don't get it? Exclusion list would mean people couldn't bid on your domains. It wouldn't stop anyone from buying traffic from Zango and sending it to you. You need to terminate those affiliates buying zango traffic. There is nothing a lawyer can do with Zango that will stop it. Those "rogue affiliates" can really do you in.

11-05-2007, 09:19 AM	#6
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Stop Zango from what? if you are getting 4k traffic from Zango, what is the legal basis to go after them? Just set up your servers to block the zango referer and you won't get traffic from them anymore. What is so difficult?

11-05-2007, 09:19 AM	#7
pornask So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 253-233-241 Posts: 6,518	Can't help directly there, but here's a bump for the good cause. I myself am not affected as adult is not my primary source of revenue, but I do understand the urgency of situation and am happy to see someone having balls to stand up and fight it. Hope more program owners chime in to land a supportive hand to help win the fight. Here’s a bump for epic cash

11-05-2007, 09:21 AM	#11
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11-05-2007, 09:22 AM	#12
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	their page pops over my join page and steals the join. the surfer thinks teya re joining my site and instead are joining zangos sponsor. whoever bid on that keyword is who is getting the join. prolly am.com or sexsearch or some thing related to my site that was intended to be joned. are we clear now? __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

11-05-2007, 09:34 AM	#18
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	I think enough adult companies are fed up with Zango.. Several of them should band together for a large class action.

11-05-2007, 09:41 AM	#22
pornask So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 253-233-241 Posts: 6,518	I'm not a big fan of pimpdog's myself, but why would so many people nuke his thread in which he's asking for a pointer. If you have something to offer in regards to the original post, then post it, but why come here and nuke the thread with anti pimpgod posts. WTF??? I wish I could be of any decent assistance in the fight-against-zango movement, but even though I can't I'm still in favor of it and would like to see if it maybe could bring results.

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11-05-2007, 10:14 AM	#27
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11-05-2007, 10:24 AM	#30
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11-05-2007, 10:25 AM	#31
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	well either way, im interested if you already are working on it. whats your IM. we have video proof of them hijacking our join page __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

11-05-2007, 10:25 AM	#32
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11-05-2007, 10:27 AM	#33
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	I'm a little confused myself. You say you're getting 4K hits from Zango, but the problem is Zango popping other join pages over your own. Fair enough, that's theft and should be stopped. However, that 4K hits is not a measurment of Zango popping over your join form. How could it be? Zango isn't sending the traffic to you, remember, it's going to a different join page. __________________ .

11-05-2007, 10:32 AM	#35
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I think if you can count that 4000 people who have it installed have visited you, there COULD be a potential loss to show.. Historical overall data would show that 1:xxx people who visit, join up. So there's where a dollar amount could be shown. I guess __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

11-05-2007, 10:34 AM	#36
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	cool, left 2 msg's with 2 dif attorneys and waiting for FAR-L to leave his info. anyone who knows me knows i dont allow anyone to fuck me over. ask eric suchomski and mike hood. the law is a beautiful thing __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

11-05-2007, 10:41 AM	#39
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Yeah makes sense. Thats how I was guessing you could show damage amounts. If I was in J-mart and at the point of sale some employee from Best-bargains jumped up and took my money, I'd be complaining to whatever commision is in charge of regulating trade. As a consumer that is. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

11-05-2007, 10:57 AM	#40
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	calling Far-L, where are you? lets get things rolling __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

11-05-2007, 11:07 AM	#42
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	i didnt know there were so many people that didnt understand what zango was doing. especially professionals like raw alex. Mr Knowitall. haha the one idiot that seems to think he knows everything about everything doesnt get how zango works. crazy __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

11-05-2007, 11:18 AM	#43
dav3 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,348	Good luck dude! I remember seeing some one (I think it was will76) paste a similar post of yours here, from another board, about a month or so ago. I can't believe that it's even remotely difficult to find other program owners to jump on board with this. __________________ Webmasters :: Juicy Ads :: ACWM :: Crak Revenue :: Money Tree

11-05-2007, 12:09 PM	#50
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