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p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 09:13 AM

looking for attorney to sue zango.
 
I cannot use my current atorney becuase he has written a brief for them a few years ago, so that would be a conflict of interest. anyone know of a good attorney that I can contact to sue zango?

not joking here. we sent them that letter to be put on the exclusion list and we continue to get about 4k hits a day from them according to referral logs. time to collect on all these months of stolen joins.

scottybuzz 11-05-2007 09:15 AM

ill park my cheeky sig here

RawAlex 11-05-2007 09:15 AM

You don't get it?

Exclusion list would mean people couldn't bid on your domains. It wouldn't stop anyone from buying traffic from Zango and sending it to you.

You need to terminate those affiliates buying zango traffic. There is nothing a lawyer can do with Zango that will stop it.

Those "rogue affiliates" can really do you in.

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13333360)
You don't get it?

Exclusion list would mean people couldn't bid on your domains. It wouldn't stop anyone from buying traffic from Zango and sending it to you.

You need to terminate those affiliates buying zango traffic. There is nothing a lawyer can do with Zango that will stop it.

Those "rogue affiliates" can really do you in.

since i cannot track down what afifliates are doing it, im going to kill zango all together.

and besides theya re stealing joins from us and redirecting them to a dif sponsor. not even my site. thats what im sueing over.

dont you get it?

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 09:17 AM

and yes there certianly is something a lawyer can do to stop zango. theya re breaking atleast 4 laws. figure that out for yourself. ill handle my company how i see fit. thanks though for your input

RawAlex 11-05-2007 09:19 AM

Stop Zango from what? if you are getting 4k traffic from Zango, what is the legal basis to go after them? Just set up your servers to block the zango referer and you won't get traffic from them anymore. What is so difficult?

pornask 11-05-2007 09:19 AM

Can't help directly there, but here's a bump for the good cause. I myself am not affected as adult is not my primary source of revenue, but I do understand the urgency of situation and am happy to see someone having balls to stand up and fight it. Hope more program owners chime in to land a supportive hand to help win the fight. Here’s a bump for epic cash

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13333386)
Stop Zango from what? if you are getting 4k traffic from Zango, what is the legal basis to go after them? Just set up your servers to block the zango referer and you won't get traffic from them anymore. What is so difficult?

are you retarded? i just told you they are redirectng traffic from my site to their own sponsor.

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tranza 11-05-2007 09:21 AM

Don't those logs show how many people that have Zango installed visit your sites???

How could you sue them??

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p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 09:22 AM

their page pops over my join page and steals the join. the surfer thinks teya re joining my site and instead are joining zangos sponsor. whoever bid on that keyword is who is getting the join. prolly am.com or sexsearch or some thing related to my site that was intended to be joned. are we clear now?

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 13333400)
Don't those logs show how many people that have Zango installed visit your sites???

How could you sue them??

what is so hard to undersnd about this.

they are stealing joins from my site by poping their own join page over my join page based on kaeyword searches. i am losing sales.

it is theft of service, fraud and conversion. those are 3 charges theya re guilty of, or soon will be.

Damian_Maxcash 11-05-2007 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 13333364)
since i cannot track down what afifliates are doing it, im going to kill zango all together.

and besides theya re stealing joins from us and redirecting them to a dif sponsor. not even my site. thats what im sueing over.

dont you get it?

Unless you have a LOT more than I think you actually have then I would rethink the 'Im going to kill zango all together' stratagey.

They are out of your league......

Oracle Porn 11-05-2007 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 13333400)
Don't those logs show how many people that have Zango installed visit your sites???

How could you sue them??

he doesn't know simple math you want him to know how to read stats? he doesn't need to know how to read stats anyhow, he owns a successful program....

Damian_Maxcash 11-05-2007 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 13333364)
since i cannot track down what afifliates are doing it, im going to kill zango all together.

and besides theya re stealing joins from us and redirecting them to a dif sponsor. not even my site. thats what im sueing over.

dont you get it?

Unless you have a LOT more than I think you actually have then I would rethink the 'Im going to kill zango all together' stratagey.

They are out of your league......

RawAlex 11-05-2007 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 13333403)
their page pops over my join page and steals the join. the surfer thinks teya re joining my site and instead are joining zangos sponsor. whoever bid on that keyword is who is getting the join. prolly am.com or sexsearch or some thing related to my site that was intended to be joned. are we clear now?

I am guessing english isn't your first language. It only took you 5 posts to finally spit it out.

Quote:

we continue to get about 4k hits a day from them
This is what you said, and it has nothing to do with what your problem is.

No wonder you get into so many arguments around here, you can't even express yourself.

spacedog 11-05-2007 09:34 AM

I think enough adult companies are fed up with Zango..

Several of them should band together for a large class action.

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001 (Post 13333413)
Unless you have a LOT more than I think you actually have then I would rethink the 'Im going to kill zango all together' stratagey.

They are out of your league......

id much rather settle out of court and have them leave my sites alone. and if i can get an attorney to take it on contingency, then who cares

Damian_Maxcash 11-05-2007 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 13333441)
id much rather settle out of court and have them leave my sites alone. and if i can get an attorney to take it on contingency, then who cares

In that case - good luck :thumbsup

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 13333434)
I think enough adult companies are fed up with Zango..

Several of them should band together for a large class action.

i alreayd have 1 company that will join me in the suit. need 4 more to foile a class action suit. help find me 4 more :)

pornask 11-05-2007 09:41 AM

I'm not a big fan of pimpdog's myself, but why would so many people nuke his thread in which he's asking for a pointer. If you have something to offer in regards to the original post, then post it, but why come here and nuke the thread with anti pimpgod posts. WTF???

I wish I could be of any decent assistance in the fight-against-zango movement, but even though I can't I'm still in favor of it and would like to see if it maybe could bring results.

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask (Post 13333468)
I'm not a big fan of pimpdog's myself, but why would so many people nuke his thread in which he's asking for a pointer. If you have something to offer in regards to the original post, then post it, but why come here and nuke the thread with anti pimpgod posts. WTF???

I wish I could be of any decent assistance in the fight-against-zango movement, but even though I can't I'm still in favor of it and would like to see if it maybe could bring results.

look who it is thats doing that nuking? that idiot dea as usual and the moron raw alex that is just jealous

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woj 11-05-2007 10:10 AM

bump for a good cause :thumbsup

DEA - banned for life 11-05-2007 10:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask (Post 13333468)
I'm not a big fan of pimpdog's myself, but why would so many people nuke his thread in which he's asking for a pointer. If you have something to offer in regards to the original post, then post it, but why come here and nuke the thread with anti pimpgod posts. WTF???

why not? He a bag of stale dog shit and if i want to lite it on fire and leave it on gfy's front doorstep so be it
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Far-L 11-05-2007 10:14 AM

We have an attorney working on it. Hit me up if you are interested and can let bygones be bygones about all the monkey crap we have flung at each other over the years.

digifan 11-05-2007 10:17 AM

Good luck!

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 13333658)
We have an attorney working on it. Hit me up if you are interested and can let bygones be bygones about all the monkey crap we have flung at each other over the years.

do you have enough for a class action? i have another program that is interested in sueing them aswell. so tats 2 more for you. lmk

Tom_PM 11-05-2007 10:24 AM

I'm just a dumb idiot, but wouldn't this fall under the FTC?

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 10:25 AM

well either way, im interested if you already are working on it. whats your IM. we have video proof of them hijacking our join page

SleazyDream 11-05-2007 10:25 AM

go pimple go

WarChild 11-05-2007 10:27 AM

I'm a little confused myself. You say you're getting 4K hits from Zango, but the problem is Zango popping other join pages over your own. Fair enough, that's theft and should be stopped. However, that 4K hits is not a measurment of Zango popping over your join form. How could it be? Zango isn't sending the traffic to you, remember, it's going to a different join page.

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 13333740)
I'm a little confused myself. You say you're getting 4K hits from Zango, but the problem is Zango popping other join pages over your own. Fair enough, that's theft and should be stopped. However, that 4K hits is not a measurment of Zango popping over your join form. How could it be? Zango isn't sending the traffic to you, remember, it's going to a different join page.

our referal logs show 4k hits per day AVG. that has 0 todo with how many joins they are stealing form us. the 2 are unrelated. i was just saying that we are getting traffic from ppl with zango on their computers further validating my point that we are being hit by zango. that along with the physical evidence/video proof of them poping their join page over ours.

thats all i was saying just not clearly i guess.

Tom_PM 11-05-2007 10:32 AM

I think if you can count that 4000 people who have it installed have visited you, there COULD be a potential loss to show.. Historical overall data would show that 1:xxx people who visit, join up. So there's where a dollar amount could be shown. I guess

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 10:34 AM

cool, left 2 msg's with 2 dif attorneys and waiting for FAR-L to leave his info.

anyone who knows me knows i dont allow anyone to fuck me over. ask eric suchomski and mike hood. the law is a beautiful thing

WarChild 11-05-2007 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 13333753)
our referal logs show 4k hits per day AVG. that has 0 todo with how many joins they are stealing form us. the 2 are unrelated. i was just saying that we are getting traffic from ppl with zango on their computers further validating my point that we are being hit by zango. that along with the physical evidence/video proof of them poping their join page over ours.

thats all i was saying just not clearly i guess.

Ahhh okay that makes more sense. Go get the fuckers.

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 13333766)
I think if you can count that 4000 people who have it installed have visited you, there COULD be a potential loss to show.. Historical overall data would show that 1:xxx people who visit, join up. So there's where a dollar amount could be shown. I guess

ofcoarse there is a loss to show. we have proof our avg conversion ratio is 1:xxx and if they sent us 4k hits x 1 year or 2 years thats a shit load of joins. plus damages, plus fees, plus punitive damges if any plus whatever else we want to throw in there. we can get more than just damages

Tom_PM 11-05-2007 10:41 AM

Yeah makes sense. Thats how I was guessing you could show damage amounts.

If I was in J-mart and at the point of sale some employee from Best-bargains jumped up and took my money, I'd be complaining to whatever commision is in charge of regulating trade. As a consumer that is.

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 10:57 AM

calling Far-L, where are you? lets get things rolling

u-Bob 11-05-2007 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask (Post 13333389)
I myself am not affected as adult is not my primary source of revenue

if you really think Zango doesn't target mainstream sites, think again.

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 11:07 AM

i didnt know there were so many people that didnt understand what zango was doing. especially professionals like raw alex. Mr Knowitall. haha

the one idiot that seems to think he knows everything about everything doesnt get how zango works. crazy

dav3 11-05-2007 11:18 AM

Good luck dude! I remember seeing some one (I think it was will76) paste a similar post of yours here, from another board, about a month or so ago. I can't believe that it's even remotely difficult to find other program owners to jump on board with this.

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 13334105)
Good luck dude! I remember seeing some one (I think it was will76) paste a similar post of yours here, from another board, about a month or so ago. I can't believe that it's even remotely difficult to find other program owners to jump on board with this.

a majority of them think they are not affected. i dnt think i was either until i took 5 minutes out of my day and checked out referrer logs on the server. zango has like 3 or 4 other names it uses for the same basic product. anyways, there are a ton of programs out there and on this board thata re affected and they dont even realize it. sad.

Far-L hitme up or post your info so i can contact you. lets get the ball rolling

pornask 11-05-2007 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 13333978)
if you really think Zango doesn't target mainstream sites, think again.

well, unless they can steal my AdSense ads and direct advertising revenue, I have not much to worry about. I don't sell membership on any of my websites. I am in support of getting them out of business either way.

Far-L 11-05-2007 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 13333965)
calling Far-L, where are you? lets get things rolling

Sorry - had to run out and get my morning coffee... (remember in Seattle that is the law)

We could certainly try to go for a class action if the attorneys recommend that is the best way to go.

Hit me up timlake AT homegrownvideo Dot com and I will send you contact info.

p1mpdogg 11-05-2007 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 13334256)
Sorry - had to run out and get my morning coffee... (remember in Seattle that is the law)

We could certainly try to go for a class action if the attorneys recommend that is the best way to go.

Hit me up timlake AT homegrownvideo Dot com and I will send you contact info.

sent you an email

u-Bob 11-05-2007 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask (Post 13334150)
...

they can pop up sites over any kind of site.

RawAlex 11-05-2007 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 13334039)
i didnt know there were so many people that didnt understand what zango was doing. especially professionals like raw alex. Mr Knowitall. haha

the one idiot that seems to think he knows everything about everything doesnt get how zango works. crazy

Dumbass, I know EXACTLY what they are doing. You can't explain yourself worth shit, so it is hard to understand what you are getting upset about. If you could actually form complete thoughts and type them in english, people would understand you better.

If you said "out of all of our visitors, about 4,000 per day have Zango installed. While our conversions rates are typically 1 in 500, none of the zango customers who make it to the join page ever join our sites. I have a feeling that Zango may be popping another sites join page on top of our join page, which steals out joins. I want to find a lawyer so I can get them to stop doing this" - everyone would have understood you.

Don't try to put you shortcomings onto the rest of us. Think before you write.

Varius 11-05-2007 12:09 PM

We're already on suing them for months now, the damn US courts are soooooooooo backed up though we are awaiting a court date still.

Our case is pretty simple, we have trademark on domains of ours they use in their bidding system which we have asked be removed multiple times before. They also, in a matter of speaking, told us 'fuck off you can't do anything to us as you guys are in costa rica'.

Hrm guess they never heard of companies with trademarks and incorporations in multiple countries :upsidedow


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