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minusonebit 11-06-2007 03:09 AM
Good to see someone doing something about it. Why not hit up the attorneys representing the people against CJ?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-06-2007 03:47 AM
Umm uh...

GOod luck with this?

Linkster 11-06-2007 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13336989)
I don't think you are on the same page with what he is saying. He will not accept zango traffic, therefore when his affiliates send traffic to epiccams the people with zango on their pc will be redirected to another site like cams.com for example. His affiliate loses sales, he loses sales.

The only way he can control what happens on his end is to detect zango traffic and block it. He still loses the sale though, conversions and RIO for people promoting his site will still be affected badly, the only thing that does is stop the people who are trying to steal profit from getting his traffic. In that case no one gets it. Thats all he can do short of sueing zango.

BTW, FunWebProducts (from everything I have read) is not related to zango.

You are correct - I missed that he is redirecting zango traffic - but I was generalizing about sponsors - most dont do that.
The other problem with this approach is that looking for the user-agent zango and the other three he mentioned - misses about 80% of the similar programs like simbar, funwebproducts(I didnt mean to connect them company-wise - they are just the same type of product), claria,spamblockerutility,powersearch,mywebsearch, trustyhound and hundreds more user-agents - which all do exactly the same thing.

Please dont get me wrong - if he is blocking zango traffic - Im all for it and think all sponsors should do it - take the hit to sales for a month - as it is the only way to get them to stop since it then affects their bottom line as advertisers wont want to buy the traffic

Far-L - didnt mean to generalize too much - I knew that one or two sponsors were doing something about it - but I think you will find that most dont even care one way or the other

Linkster 11-06-2007 04:42 AM
p1mpdogg and Far-L
I have an idea that I hope will give all of us a better understanding of the reach of the problem - since you are both willing to give up a little to fix this problem - so am I. I will set you both up to get a bunch of aff traffic daily - for p1mpdogg if you have a way you can track how many of those referrals get redirected due to your detection script - then we can see just how much of an effect its really having. I will get up a list of the user-agents that are known about that have these effects on the affiliate codes and join pages - and in return (while it wont be tons of signups) you'll get some of my better spots

Id also be willing to set up a PC with most of these user-agents to see which aff codes are being replaced and with whose if you are willing to go to that position?

Retributi0n 11-06-2007 04:57 AM
I dont get it. What exactly does this Zango do

HS-Trixxxia 11-06-2007 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Retributi0n (Post 13337876)
I dont get it. What exactly does this Zango do

You can either search on GFY - there's enough info to keep you reading for days or you can go http://www.benedelman.org/ and see it all in action, detailed to perfection.

Retributi0n 11-06-2007 07:36 AM
I remember getting lots of spam mail from these fuckes a while back

AGS-17 11-06-2007 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 13333402)
what is sites?

dig420 11-06-2007 09:33 AM
My atty is already in the process of getting us on the exclusion list, which means he's probably doing his research right now. If you want to jump on board for this process you can send me an email and I'll forward it to him and see what he says.

will76 11-06-2007 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 13338583)
My atty is already in the process of getting us on the exclusion list, which means he's probably doing his research right now. If you want to jump on board for this process you can send me an email and I'll forward it to him and see what he says.
Are you guys going to stop there (get put on the list) or go after them even if your url is added ?

p1mpdogg 11-06-2007 10:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 13338583)
My atty is already in the process of getting us on the exclusion list, which means he's probably doing his research right now. If you want to jump on board for this process you can send me an email and I'll forward it to him and see what he says.
been there done that. zango just laughs at you. my attorney did the same thing and they ddid nothing bout it

Far-L 11-06-2007 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Due (Post 13337700)
I know, my comment was primary targetted towards pimpdog.
As far as I KNOW you have a trademark which they gained proffits from, they also tarnished your trademark and brand by hijacking customers and delivering content that is not your own content, making the consumer belive it is your content which obviously lower the value of your brand.
Gives you a much stronger case since you can sue for not only lost income but also estimated loss from your brand value.
In your case you should include "Zango & Advertiser(s)", Zango may not be too scared of lawsuits, but I am rather sure the advertiser(s) bidding on the words will be happy to inform who helped them suggest keywords which could place the liability on Zango. Asuming the advertiser is another john doe webmaster working from home trying to earn some easy money.
PS. hit me up on ICQ if you wanna have a small chat
Damn... you are on the ball here... you must be an attorney or definitely paying one...

I don't use icq but if you use im then I am hgtimlake AT hotmail DOT com

Far-L 11-06-2007 12:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 13337866)
p1mpdogg and Far-L
I have an idea that I hope will give all of us a better understanding of the reach of the problem - since you are both willing to give up a little to fix this problem - so am I. I will set you both up to get a bunch of aff traffic daily - for p1mpdogg if you have a way you can track how many of those referrals get redirected due to your detection script - then we can see just how much of an effect its really having. I will get up a list of the user-agents that are known about that have these effects on the affiliate codes and join pages - and in return (while it wont be tons of signups) you'll get some of my better spots

Id also be willing to set up a PC with most of these user-agents to see which aff codes are being replaced and with whose if you are willing to go to that position?
Very generous and much appreciated. :thumbsup

dig420 11-06-2007 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 13338709)
been there done that. zango just laughs at you. my attorney did the same thing and they ddid nothing bout it
From what I can tell, every time they've been sued they've settled for large amounts. If they don't do what I ask, then I go after them. Fuck those guys, I hate malware installing motherfuckers. No skin off my nose if they want to take it to court.

Due 11-06-2007 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 13339104)
Damn... you are on the ball here... you must be an attorney or definitely paying one...

I don't use icq but if you use im then I am hgtimlake AT hotmail DOT com
Can't live without lawyers in todays market I'm affraid, I'm not a lawyer but definately spend too much time with them...
Added you on MSN, I'm heading to WTE Prague tomorrow early morning so I'll be hard to catch during the next days including tonight, still havent considered I need to pack too :helpme

AGS-17 11-07-2007 03:53 AM
park my cheeky sig here

p1mpdogg 11-07-2007 04:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 13339328)
From what I can tell, every time they've been sued they've settled for large amounts. If they don't do what I ask, then I go after them. Fuck those guys, I hate malware installing motherfuckers. No skin off my nose if they want to take it to court.
that is what i am hoping for. get a settlement and put me on the list. doesnt look like I can do much for anyone else besides me and my affiliates

will76 11-08-2007 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 13342548)
that is what i am hoping for. get a settlement and put me on the list. doesnt look like I can do much for anyone else besides me and my affiliates
better than nothing. If you get settlement then other companies will try for the same, sooner or later zango will have to put its foot down and stop the bleeding and try the case.

Any progress on your end ?

thonglife 11-08-2007 09:39 PM
See sig to make a difference.

madleinx 11-08-2007 10:33 PM
Again, see sig. These are AB rated attorney firms who aren't afraid of the big bad Zango. Damn, just look at it! :disgust

p1mpdogg 11-08-2007 11:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13350927)
better than nothing. If you get settlement then other companies will try for the same, sooner or later zango will have to put its foot down and stop the bleeding and try the case.

Any progress on your end ?
i have 2 meetings tomorrow with 2 dif attorneys. Ill know after toimorrow if i have a lawyer or not. I have all the proof i need, but im having a hell of a time finding an attorney to take the case. they are either too busy, or out of state or dont even understand what im taking about with zango and do not know anywhere in seattle to refer me to.
like i said i found that sounded like they can help me though


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