YouTube's PageRank Drama Continues ... [Calling all PageRank Nerds Inside] - GoFuckYourself.com

Vick! · 10-29-2007, 01:15 AM

RawAlex, StarkReality, CreatineGuy and other PageRank Nerds:

Watch this shit ..

Yes, the conflict I explained here is now resolved and youtube is back PR8 ... check here ... http://www.digpagerank.com/index.php...tube.com&dc=18

Where are your idiotic theories now?

@RawAlex, how are you feeling now after mentioning your 10 years experience? lolz .. If I were you, I'd be feeling ashamed to know that my knowledge is wayyy less than my ego.
Full story

@CreatineGuy, where is your 1 million dollar bet now?
full story, more from a big mouth

@StarkReality, what happened to too your "loads of outgoing links can hurt PR" myth?
full story

I don't blame you, PageRank is highly scientific algorithm and a bigger brain is needed to understand how exactly it works .. typical gallery submitter and laborers cannot understand this. All they can do is watch green bar on Google toolbar and tell the PageRank, thats it.

Just a suggestion, we all (including myself, of course) can be wrong at one time or another .. so at least keep this option open and hear what others have to say ... rather than having your ego a wall against new knowledges.

By new knowledge I mean which is new to you .. and fake PageRank and ability to detect fake PageRank is new to all of you, in this particular case at least.

For those who missed ..

These guys were bitching that YouTube has lost PR, and dropped to PR3, everyone of them had a different myth .... and I explained in detail that YouTube is NOT PR3 .. but these ego maniacs were not trying to get what I was talking ... Even one of them was ready to bet 1 million dollars ... lol

Full debate here https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/779862-googles-2007-q4-pagerank-pr-update.html

and explanation of YouTube's temporary PR is here https://gfy.com/13294494-post29.html

And my prediction that it will come back to PR8 is here:

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Originally Posted by Vick!

I am not in mood to explain how this can happen, but for you and me .. if this ever happen, we will need to remove permanent redirect (from homepage to internal page or another domain) and wait for next PR update to show original PR. But, since youtube is owned by Google .. they will fix this as soon as they find.

Cheers and see sig

stev0 · 10-29-2007, 01:19 AM

Don't pat yourself on the back too hard... you might pull a muscle ;)

pornask · 10-29-2007, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stev0

Don't pat yourself on the back too hard... you might pull a muscle ;)

LOL, nice ownage

Vick! · 10-29-2007, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by stev0

Don't pat yourself on the back too hard... you might pull a muscle ;)

I am not really patting, I didn't win a castle.

I was just bursting someone's 10 years experience ego bubble, and other one's 1 million dollar bet bubble.

And a message i wanted to convey is, we all can be wrong at one time or another ... so, we should keep this option open and do not think that our own knowledge, beliefs and sayings are ultimate.

thats it

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-29-2007, 01:28 AM

pwnt....

BOSS1 · 10-29-2007, 01:43 AM

nice tool thanks for the link

JFK · 10-29-2007, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Vick!

I am not really patting, I didn't win a castle.

I was just bursting someone's 10 years experience ego bubble, and other one's 1 million dollar bet bubble.

And a message i wanted to convey is, we all can be wrong at one time or another ... so, we should keep this option open and do not think that our own knowledge, beliefs and sayings are ultimate.

thats it

were you hoping for the castle, or the Meeelion ??

munki · 10-29-2007, 01:49 AM

Pagerank spawning some interesting discussion this time around...

Vick! · 10-29-2007, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BOSS1

nice tool thanks for the link

anytime ..

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Originally Posted by JFK

were you hoping for the castle, or the Meeelion ??

damn I knew he didn't had Meelion dollars .. I even offered him a bet of $950 i had ready in epass, but he suddenly stop responding.

but hey, its gfy ... there are more pussies around than men and .. people don't always mean what they say

SmokeyTheBear · 10-29-2007, 02:40 AM

dude no offense but i dont think any of the people who responded to you in the other thread claimed to be "pr experts" i also think you got bent out of shape simply because you didnt understand what the other people were saying. Most of the people weren't disagreeing with you. The guy with the million dollar bet was right , and you were also right.

youtube had what was known as a "fake pr" . Is it really fake ? no its a redirect that shows the pr of whatever page its redirected too. many people refer to this as "faking pr" , now obviously you wouldnt "fake" a lower pr so it was a mistake. you pointed out the mistake . i think most people understood both before and after what was going on , theres no need to go into some great debate about it , nor does it take any experience to understand how "pr" works and how "fake pr" works. no need to gloat over it , just explain it to the people who dont understand and if they dont agree oh well

Vick! · 10-29-2007, 05:59 AM

Smokey, thanks for replying in here. I do have respect for you due to good posts of yourself I have been reading.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

dude no offense but i dont think any of the people who responded to you in the other thread claimed to be "pr experts" i also think you got bent out of shape simply because you didnt understand what the other people were saying.

They were not only disagreeing, but disagreeing strongly. Let me tell how...
(To avoid excessive navigation, I will quote them here...)

First, StarkReality .. He thought youtube is penalized due to excessive outgoing links. he said:

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Originally Posted by StarkReality

Yay, but the fight against link sellers still doesn't explain the PR3 for google's own baby youtube, obviousely loads of outgoing links can really hurt, would explain why huge directories suffered alot as well.

and when I tried to correct him saying:

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Originally Posted by Vick!

Ok, outgoing links cannot reduce PR. It just passes less and less PR to each link, but do not drain your own.

He responded:

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Originally Posted by StarkReality

That's common knowledge and was true so far

then when I asked for source to this "common knowledge" he disappeared

Ok, tell me who was right among we two? Can outgoing links "lower" your own PR? Remember, we are not talking about bad neighbourhood, just too many outgoing links.

Ok, then CreatineGuy came into play with his million dollar bet. He said:

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Originally Posted by CreatineGuy

YOUTUBE IS PR3...

I BET YOU 1 MILLION DOLLARS THAT YOUTUBE IS PR3...

There is no such thing as Real PR and Fake PR... Stop talking bullshit and try to learn a bit about SEO... Clueless usa soldier fag..

Since 1 million dollar bet is unrealistic, I offered him counter bet of $950 .. and he disappeared

He said, "There is no such thing as Real PR and Fake PR." .. do you agree with him?

You say, "i dont think any of the people who responded to you in the other thread claimed to be "pr experts""

Look what he said:

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Originally Posted by CreatineGuy

Hehe, that dude vick knows nothing about seo...

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Originally Posted by CreatineGuy

Stop talking bullshit and try to learn a bit about SEO... Clueless usa soldier fag..

When you say someone you know nothing about SEO, it does mean you consider yourself authority to declare someone a clueless. Isn't it?

Then a guy with whooping 10 years experience and an ego bigger than Himalaya came around. He also believed I am talking bullshit and YouTube IS PR3 ..
He refused to follow the point of fake PR, and when I asked to explain the screenshot.

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Originally Posted by Vick!

And finally, can you explain this screenshot?

What is this?
What result this query was assumed to return?
And did it return what i should?
What you understand from the result returned?

He could not. I did not wonder, I knew he would not .. if he was able to do that, he would have followed my point.

Finally, this PR8 of YouTube again has busted all the myths that YouTube is penalized and so.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

youtube had what was known as a "fake pr" . Is it really fake ? no its a redirect that shows the pr of whatever page its redirected too. many people refer to this as "faking pr"

Thats what I tried to say, and you see no one was getting it.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

now obviously you wouldnt "fake" a lower pr so it was a mistake. you pointed out the mistake .

Exactly, I also said it mistake .. whereas everyone else was saying penalty. Here is what I said, with proof.

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Originally Posted by Vick!

Mistakenly, What info Google have about www.youtube.com is URL https://youtube.com/watch?v=CULmwgsX29M .. which is actually PR3.

For historical purpose:

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

nor does it take any experience to understand how "pr" works and how "fake pr" works. no need to gloat over it

Actually, you are right. It doesn't take any experience. But if someone who claim to have 10 years experience in this field still don't get it?

Smokey, you will agree with me that .. it does need some brain and IQ to understand this. Which a lot of people lack.

And I am not really gloating .. I already have said in this thread that I am not patting myself.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

just explain it to the people who dont understand and if they dont agree oh well

Thats what exactly I did here ... in detail and with srceenshots. But problem was no one wanted to understand rather debate over his false assumptions and poor knowledge.

Thanks again for posting in here Smokey

*sigh* ..

long post ..

~Ray · 10-29-2007, 06:06 AM

I bet you feel better

Klen · 10-29-2007, 06:28 AM

Looks like google realized they penalized their owned site.Whatta suckers.
In digpagerank i see it's pr8 now but in seoquake search is pr3 but yet again in seoquake toolbar is pr8 so logicaly is pr8 and that pr3 is probaly cache leftover.

Linkster · 10-29-2007, 06:55 AM

How about you start using the correct terms - since you seem to be propping yourself as an SEO expert - you are talking about Toolbar PR display - not PAGERANK - they are two completely different things - and you are just continuing the tradition of misleading people (especially the newer WMs who dont know any better) into thinking that they are interchangable - which just leads to the stupidity that has been going on for the last 3 years of selling buying and trading links based on what a little green bar indicates.

Why not post an educational thread that actually explains the difference to interested WMs so they can learn from your experience instead of continuing the deceitful practice of promoting the use of tools that have no bearing on a WMs site ranking in the Google search engine

RawAlex · 10-29-2007, 07:09 AM

Vick, congrats. You went from zero to total fucking asshole in less than 3 days. I am impressed. I am sure you mom is proud.

All this because you don't read.

I posted up the image showing youtube at PR3. You are all like "no, their PR is 8". I doesn't matter HOW the PR3 occured, but that it did occur in real life, not just one datacenter but every one of them.

The PR being returned to 8 this morning is nothing more than an indication that Google effectively broke their own rules and manual adjusted or tweaked the results of the PR update to fix things so their investment doesn't look bad.

If this can happen to youtube, how many other sites have boosted or lowered PR as a result of a Google PR algo failure?

Would you like my epass account so you can send your $950 to me now?

gornyhuy · 10-29-2007, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Vick!

I was just bursting someone's 10 years experience ego.....

so, we should keep this option open and do not think that our own knowledge, beliefs and sayings are ultimate.

Made your own ego feel pretty good, didn't it. Keep feeding that beast. Surely it will fill the gaping void at the core of your being. Just don't look too carefully into the abyss.

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RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Vick, congrats. You went from zero to total fucking asshole in less than 3 days. I am impressed. I am sure you mom is proud. All this because you don't read. I posted up the image showing youtube at PR3. You are all like "no, their PR is 8". I doesn't matter HOW the PR3 occured, but that it did occur in real life, not just one datacenter but every one of them. The PR being returned to 8 this morning is nothing more than an indication that Google effectively broke their own rules and manual adjusted or tweaked the results of the PR update to fix things so their investment doesn't look bad. If this can happen to youtube, how many other sites have boosted or lowered PR as a result of a Google PR algo failure? Would you like my epass account so you can send your $950 to me now?