wyldworx

...so a law has just been passed banning convicted tamperers from using the internet.... how do they propose this? killing them would be easier, they ruin any chance of a child growing into an adult happily.... and how might they govern such a thing?

aico

drugs are illegal
drunk driving is illegal
murder is illegal

I think you get the point.

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Passing additional laws for pedo's after they did their time is fucking wrong no matter where you are at.

Either bite the fucking bullet and make them get life in prison or deal with the fact that once you do your time your a normal citizen again with a record and not to be penalized over and over again by additional laws.

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Well hotels get lots of them all bundled together, well at least here.
They are also trying to make that law passed retroactive and having them move so far from schools, parks, places children are present, etc. Though the CA court said no for a few of them. I.E. The state is now getting itself lined to to get sued out its ass to appease those who want additional punishment on sexual predators. Those few the state are protecting do not have to move right now, just the rest do.

Keep em locked up or leave em alone.

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wyldworx

pointing pointers point given and taken....

Mr.Right - Banned For Life

Just kill them, would make the world a much better place.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE

I am against ANY LAW THAT IS CREATED TO GOVERN THE INTERNET..

...PERIOD

Slippery fuckin slop man slippery slope

I dislike pedo's but I like love freedom .... Real freedom

And this imperialistic approach to the world is partially the cause of the United States going down the shitter without anyone around to toss us a rope

Odin

Pretty simple way to look at things don't you think? I'm not opposed to them receiving longer sentences, but special conditions almost always apply when someone is released from jail. Some people have to remain in a certain State, visit their local police station daily, etc for varying lengths of time, have to partake in drug tests, etc. It's only commonsense that someone who, for example has a repeat history of heavy drink driving, when released from prison never be allowed to obtain a drivers license or legally drive again, no? So why wouldn't you carry similar conditions across to pedophiles preventing them from working with children, etc. Makes sense to me. I don't see jail as the be all and end all of punishment, and that we should treat a person exactly the same as an any other citizen as soon as he is released.

wyldworx

thats so they get the special treatment in jail in protective custody. General population would ensure life was an impossible task, let alone being banned from the internet... that is an impossible and irrational way to go about treating this growing problem.... i say remove the protection and send em to exile... they seem to think its fit for everyone else, why not them and certainly less for the taxpaying victim to feed, clothe and attempt a hopeless task in rehabilitating in the jail system for the rest of thier life in society.

xmas13

Killing people because they are different is Nazi and wrong. Period.

I have no concrete solution and it's not my job to find one, but i don't advocate the killing of humans.

You (wyldworx) are a deviant more dangerous than a pedophile.

jacked

yea pretty true they say the largest population of pedophiles is in florida due to there lax laws but they do require the above that they stay X amount of feet away from schools parks and all that. actually caught something on tv about it the other day they had god only knows how many of these fucks in a trailer park in florida they could have dropped some napalm on the area and did the world some real good.

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wyldworx

wow, i guess some self rediscovery is in order... murder always seems so terrible... we all die meaning life should be taken a little more seriously than turning the other cheek. Thats what my mum and dad did, and boy i wish they didn't. A gun in your speech to me (wyldworx) and the world looks diligantly at your lack of integrity. Bit of a bitch when it happens in the same post you moron.

Michaelious

Pedophilia is a brain problem...its been scientifically proven that thier brain lobes are diffrent and your brain can be scanned to see this...only death or a life in jail will stop them because they actually can't help themselves...

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pornguy

I agree. I know that a lot of the repeat, but a lot dont.

The biggest thing is. that a lot of people are listed as sex offenders, and have never done anything that involved an actual sex offense

There was a woman from Europe that was arrested for changing clothes on South Beach in Miami. She did it in front of a family They charged her with a sex crime, and she is now listed as a sexual offender, in Florida. infact her husband sold their 13 properties in the US, and no longer goes on vacation to the US, because his wife is not allowed to enter.


Thats truly fucked up.

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wyldworx

and btw, nazi's were intent about thier life on earth which is what you should attempt doing, you might just have fun and stop your asshole from leaking like a tap in your sleep cause your so anal retentive. Or are you a jew saving up cash for zion? if so, best of luck with that. My dads black and my mums white and i understand the method, why cant you?

wyldworx

ahhh, nice to see some truth. I would die to prove my dissatisfaction toward paedophilia activity and if anyone took a look at why most laws governing adult w/masters were actually brought about by, it would be due to it being a problem that was for so many years a taboo subject. Things like this grow in the darkness, that is that.

DaddyHalbucks

It all reminds me of the Scarlet Letter.

Punish them. But when they are sufficiently reformed to re-join society, let them do that without the harassment.

I heard of a guy who was playing in a band at a high school one weekend. He had to take a leak and went out the back door, and got busted pissing. He is now listed as a sex offender. That's crazy.

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wyldworx

...........common sense seems to have lost any real essence it ever held.......... maybe thats yet another phalise one has to come to terms with in life like santa clause and the easter bunny. We are all just fucked up with few aware trying to work in the other direction.

mistergardener

Bye-bye pedos....

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Oh please, oh please, oh please...

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fatfoo

there's no way to ban them, they can go to internet cafe or such places

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exactly

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wyldworx

yes, my point..... its a dead end solution....

wyldworx

...maybe an ankle bracelet 4 life would just solve it....

smutnut

what is a paedophile?

PornMogul

They will never be able to enforce that especially wifi nowadays.

eroswebmaster

I've debated this on this board a number of times before, but just like when it comes to discussing the death penalty, people use their hearts and not their brains.

And by that, I mean it's all purely emotional for them.

One thing that really bothers me are these states that take a sex offender after they have served their time, and put them into a mental hospital for what could effectively be a life term.

The sex offender can't leave until the mental hospital says they are "cured," and or safe.

If the accused cannot argue diminished mental capacity, or plead not guilty by reason of mental defect during the trial, because they say they are "sane." Then how can you punish someone criminally, only to tell them AFTER they served that time, that now they are crazy and have to be held in a mental institution.

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smutnut

The only thing I'll say is that if you're trying to say that you can't solve a problem by burying it in the shadows or suppressing it, I agree with you. Right now they are an easy exploitation for the media because no one and I mean no one is going to come to their defense, not even one bleeding heart self righteous socially elite liberal within 1000 miles

eroswebmaster

This is just a nuisance law people.

This just gives them one more avenue to pursue in harassing undesirables.

Just like not being near schools...etc. This is one more thing that someone might get caught doing so they can send them back to jail.

I have a problem with this line of action, or how most people wish pain and utter suffering to sex offenders when they're in jail.

Why?

Common fucking sense.

These guys will get out eventually, so I'd rather their jail experience not take a guy who just liked to touch kids, and turn him into a monster who now wants to kill them.

I also don't think it's too smart to make their lives on the outside so unbearable that eventually they come to the conclusion that they might as well act out because there's no reward for not doing so, just continued punishment for living a normal life.

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Tony there is a differencve between our fucked up sex laws and convicting a pedo, hell they should not even be on same list. Point is there should be no lists. Do your time, do your parole, etc poof done. You just now have a criminal record.

As for driving, thats not a right anyways.
Firearm laws and felons rarely make sense. Either it was a one off crime (killing your spouse), or you never used a legal firearm anyways. So again the after the fact laws are fucking stupid.

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smutnut

Let me get this straight, you personally know a lot of pedos who don't repeat?

Aussie Rebel

They fuck children , they should all be shot in the face with a shotgun and their remains fed to pigs, I don't give a fuck if they have done their time or not, those poor kids have to live with what happened to them for the rest of their lives

minusonebit

Its a bad law. Once released, the internet may well be the safest place for the pedo and for the public. Released child fuckers have to either get jobs or we have to give them money. I'd rather they take a job. Then comes the issue of where. Do we want them being janitors and fast food workers, where they encounter the public and have additional chances to exploit kids? Or would it be better if they worked at home, online, answering e-mails or selling thier sig on GFY? Between the two, I'd rather it be the latter.

smutnut

I'm actually not of that school of thought, but i'd lean more towards your way of thinking than letting them off or getting away with it and looking at it like it's no big deal.

I do think the entire thing could be handled better if Geraldo and the rest of those assholes would leave them alone and let the system work things out, not that I have any understanding or knowledge whether or not it's a gene or a defect or something that can be cured, but I think if it was looked at that way to at least collect some data (again having them punished and responsible for their actions at the same time), there might be a chance of fixing things so it doesn't happen to other children.

In the mean time, LETS GO BOMB ANOTHER COUNTRY, YEE HA!

minusonebit

In total agreement till we got to this point. Driving IS a right. It became a right when they started taxing everything to support it.

minusonebit

Nevermind the fact that the US has some of the most fucked up sex crime laws to begin with... before you wish death on all of those pedophiles, you need to make sure you understand what one is, first. There are plenty of people who get sent to prison on the pedo laws that, as far as I am concerned, are not pedos.

If an 18 yo has consensual sex with a 16 yo, is that wrong? The law says yes, I - and most of the rest of the world - says no. What about a 16 yo and a 15 yo having a consensual fuck? Law says they are a sex offender too. Hell, by the US standards, I am a sex offender because I fucked around with a 19 yo when I was 15.

The current laws are arbitrary and blind. They do not take into account the state of mind of the parties, whether it was consensual - just the ages and how that stacks up in the eyes of the law. They consider sex offenders to include a 12 yo who moons a classmate and a 43 yo caught taking a piss on the side of the road.

Everyone agrees that a 45 yo who fucks a 7 yo - regardless of consent - is a pedo. But is a 15 yo or a 17 yo who consensually fucks that 45 yo a pedo? Maybe. It depends on the circumstances.

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Please lets not go there. Using that logic people have a right to smoke since that tax it to support everything, so its only fair that you have a right to smoke everywhere your tax dollars go to support.

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No, driving is a privilage. There's nothing in the constitution that gaurantees it or protects you in the event you get your license pulled. Toss a few back and take a ride and get caught if you don't believe me.

But on the same hand you certainly don't have the right to touch anyone who doesn't want you to let alone a little kid who you shouldn't be touching even if they think they want you to!

pornguy

Well stated.

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minusonebit

Thats a little different. I dont smoke and I think its a foul, dirty and disgusting habit. But I also think people have a right to do it. But they dont have the right to do it everywhere taxdollars are used. For instance, when tax dollars are taken and used to build a courthouse, the courthouse is not built with the idea that it be first a place for people to smoke in it and other uses second. Unlike roads, when they are built and taxes levyed to build them, it is so that they can be driven on by the taxpayers and for no other purpose. Thats the difference.

tony286

See the movie the woodsman, its about alot of this.

smutnut

This is actually the major weakness in the law, and you make a good point. It has been used against people for reasons other than what it was intended for

Except for the last part. You wouldn't be the sex offender, they would be.

minusonebit

The Constitution is not the only place where our rights are laid out. The Constitution does not mention anything about drivers licenses at all, so if we want to argue for the strict interpretation, we can say that licenses and also the taxes themselves all violate the constitution. In fact, its debatable as to whether the government has the right to require a driver's license as a precursor to driving at all. It doesn't have to be spelled out in the constitution to be in existence, it can simply be a matter of common sense. When one is taxed to provide a service, he has a right to enjoy that service that he is paying for.

smutnut

Dude, don't take this into court, and seriously you should not be using it as an analogy to touch a kid if that's what you're doing

smutnut

Great fucking movie Kevin Bacon has a lot of balls taking a role like that. He's a great actor

minusonebit

Thats unfair of you and you should apologize to me for it. I am not touching anyone I shouldn't be according to the US laws. Who said anything about taking it to Court? I am fully aware of the fact that truth has little place in a courtroom these days... we all saw what happened to Larkin Rose when he argued the truth in a court, didn't we?

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smutnut

Dude, I wasn't accusing you, but giving you advice on how to defend this thing. In a way I agree with what you are saying and don't want to come across as one of these people who accuse people of things because I can't make my logic work. That's not what I was doing.

I was just saying, you'd lose in a court of law even with a good lawyer on the drunk driving thing if that was your defense. And also that compared to child protection laws is apples and oranges in the way you're presenting it.

If you need an apology you have one. I don't think you're a child molester. Just handing out some of my useless advice