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G-Rotica · 10-25-2007, 11:14 AM

All the in-fighting is absolutely amazing and a total waste of fucking time. It's a wonder some of you get anything done. Now granted every business will have a little drama, but the shit here is down right silly. Grown men/women aren't supposed to act this way.

You'll never see Robert Ulrich (Target CEO) or H. Lee Scott (Walmart CEO) ripping each other apart in any kind of public forum, online or off, and they are serious competitors. God damned amazing some of you even have business contacts, if you truly do. A lot of business is based on personality. I can tell you right now, there are a lot here that I would not do business with, simply because of their asinine post and behaviour.

Jesus, grow up and get over this petty shit.

CreatineGuy · 10-25-2007, 11:21 AM

Very true... However I think you are in the wrong business...

Xbiz people are like this... all the dumb people will not trade FOREX or work in Wall Street.. they could never do so, because they are brain limited.. So they work in porn..

nickutis · 10-25-2007, 11:21 AM

They have too much free time, that's why they start these dramas. It's called socializing (when you don't go out too much).

polish_aristocrat · 10-25-2007, 11:21 AM

You are right in general but it's funny how you compare these guys

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica

You'll never see Robert Ulrich (Target CEO) or H. Lee Scott (Walmart CEO) ripping each other apart in any kind of public forum, online or off, and they are serious competitors.

to 20 year old kids who dropped out of highschool and try their luck in making gallery pages promoting "her first double penetration" paysites

CreatineGuy · 10-25-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

You are right in general but it's funny how you compare these guys

to 20 year old kids who dropped out of highschool and try their luck in making gallery pages promoting "her first double penetration" paysites

well.. you can't complain after all.. you do money thanks to those guys..

keep changing names, first it was juggcash, then brazers (what a stupid retard name btw).. what name are you going to use next?

stupid polish jew... your grand-granfather was lucky enough..

Violetta · 10-25-2007, 11:27 AM

true... There are lots of persons I have never done biz with, just because they act like idiots.

Violetta · 10-25-2007, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CreatineGuy

keep changing names, first it was juggcash, then brazers (what a stupid retard name btw).. what name are you going to use next?

stupid polish jew... your grand-granfather was lucky enough..

Post of the year... moron

SCORE Ralph · 10-25-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica

All the in-fighting is absolutely amazing and a total waste of fucking time. It's a wonder some of you get anything done. Now granted every business will have a little drama, but the shit here is down right silly. Grown men/women aren't supposed to act this way.

You'll never see Robert Ulrich (Target CEO) or H. Lee Scott (Walmart CEO) ripping each other apart in any kind of public forum, online or off, and they are serious competitors. God damned amazing some of you even have business contacts, if you truly do. A lot of business is based on personality. I can tell you right now, there are a lot here that I would not do business with, simply because of their asinine post and behaviour.

Jesus, grow up and get over this petty shit.

Those guys dont probably spend much time online... and if they did, I bet they would be at each other's throats with names like BadTarget and JuicyMart

Casa Nova · 10-25-2007, 11:41 AM

to each his own,business is business.. they may act like idiots at times, but that's just who they are. Aslong as me associating with them doesn't bring me down, then I'll do business wit hthem. People can be complete morons personality wise but if they run a good business internally then I'm dealing with the business side of things. Most people unfortunately use this board to goof around.

G-Rotica · 10-25-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CreatineGuy

well.. you can't complain after all.. you do money thanks to those guys..

keep changing names, first it was juggcash, then brazers (what a stupid retard name btw).. what name are you going to use next?

stupid polish jew... your grand-granfather was lucky enough..

This is exactly what I'm referring to.

Persius · 10-25-2007, 11:50 AM

great post!

ADL Colin · 10-25-2007, 01:30 PM

I'm pretty sure the porn business will out-survive us idiots.

fatfoo · 10-25-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

I'm pretty sure the porn business will out-survive us idiots.

agreeeeeed

papill0n · 10-25-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

I'm pretty sure the porn business will out-survive us idiots.

haha w0rd man

GAMEFINEST · 10-25-2007, 02:18 PM

no money in porno ...thanks

aico · 10-25-2007, 02:21 PM

it's all in good fun, anywone who takes it seriously needs to step away for a bit.

PornMogul · 10-25-2007, 02:26 PM

^^^^^ agreed

seeric · 10-25-2007, 02:28 PM

500 dollars
+
Best Buy
=
Potential Webmaster

PornMogul · 10-25-2007, 02:33 PM

Very true very true. Internet growth means we have to deal with the idiots who can finally afford a computer

PMdave · 10-25-2007, 02:41 PM

you're comparing affiliates and small site owners with the ceo from target and wallmart? Nah... that ain't very realistic compare the big guys with the big guys: do you see Becky from ARS creating drama? Or the owner of TheHun? Or the Silvercash owner? Or any other person that owns a reputable, wellknown business?

V_RocKs · 10-25-2007, 03:30 PM

I don't see the vast majority suffering from infighting.

DBS.US · 10-25-2007, 03:42 PM

3:35PM Robert Ulrich : Can you send me $100 Paypal for $105 Epass
3:36PM H. Lee Scott : You never paid me last time you scammer!
3:37PM Robert Ulrich : Fuck you bitch! You hire illegal aliens!
3:38PM H. Lee Scott : Ya, you sell outdated produce!

Manowar · 10-25-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PMdave

you're comparing affiliates and small site owners with the ceo from target and wallmart? Nah... that ain't very realistic compare the big guys with the big guys: do you see Becky from ARS creating drama? Or the owner of TheHun? Or the Silvercash owner? Or any other person that owns a reputable, wellknown business?

exactly.

SpeakEasy · 10-25-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PMdave

you're comparing affiliates and small site owners with the ceo from target and wallmart? Nah... that ain't very realistic compare the big guys with the big guys: do you see Becky from ARS creating drama? Or the owner of TheHun? Or the Silvercash owner? Or any other person that owns a reputable, wellknown business?

This is the best reply in this thread. He's comparing the broke idiots on gfy to the big mainstream players, while there are definately some wealthy people in the adult biz that just don't hang on boards, one of the reasons they acttually do make some money...LOL

GreyWolf · 10-25-2007, 05:28 PM

There are a quota of serious webmasters here who have a clue and a degree of business accumen - they are obvious. It's also awesome that some others can spend 24/7 on a chatboard - fat chance of doing any work of any kind.

On a totally different angle, but related to the thread title, - sure, the adult biz will drop in relevance. It has been dropping since the early 70's with the spread of "adult stores". When populations no longer have a "mystique" about porn and become familiar - the novelty/appeal angle and interest drops.

As a comparison, (and this has varied from country to country), it was hard not to earn serious money in the 60's-70's onwards by producing porn, cartons of "sex cosmetics" or whatever. It got to a level, we had to keep airshipping in product cos it was sold by the time it arrived. This is no longer the case - again, the "mystique" no longer exists in most western countries.

At the same time, there are new people to market to, and other developing nations where there still is a novelty value (tho depends on economics and legalities within these nations), but, they will be the main earners for the adult biz in future.

Familiarity breeds contempt - and that can influence a market substantially. The net is no different and has a contributed to losing the "mystique" of porn in a big way - it's now commonplace and nothing special.

10-25-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica

All the in-fighting is absolutely amazing and a total waste of fucking time. It's a wonder some of you get anything done. Now granted every business will have a little drama, but the shit here is down right silly. Grown men/women aren't supposed to act this way.

You'll never see Robert Ulrich (Target CEO) or H. Lee Scott (Walmart CEO) ripping each other apart in any kind of public forum, online or off, and they are serious competitors. God damned amazing some of you even have business contacts, if you truly do. A lot of business is based on personality. I can tell you right now, there are a lot here that I would not do business with, simply because of their asinine post and behaviour.

Jesus, grow up and get over this petty shit.

As with any industry, there are intricacies that only the truly successful understand. It just so happens that one's ability to attack/defend, brag/retract, spam/promote etc. etc. in a public forum are qualities of success inherent to this particular industry. This is not a politically correct industry and it never will be. If you ever doubt that, refer to the header of this site.

For example, it would be completely acceptable for me to reply to your post with:

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who the fuck are you to come onto this board and question how we conduct business?

Now if I were an account rep and afraid of losing my job because I didn't know dick about how the industry worked, I'd most likely reply with:

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I agree! It's a shame that more webmasters don't communicate more like we did at my last job at Walmart! Hey you mentioned Walmart in your post! Let's be friends. Our sites convert great, you should give them a try!

While this forum is very-much a business oriented forum, the reality is that a lot of us know each other very well off the board as well. A lot of business done is done not in public, or on forums, or meant for other people to see.

CreatineGuy is a good example of a complete fucking moron that will never be successful in this industry no matter how hard he tries, however. Other people you'd be really surprised if you met them in person how creative and smart they actually are compared to how big of an asshole they can play on a message board.

sysk · 10-25-2007, 06:22 PM

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stupid polish jew... your grand-granfather was lucky enough..

cheaaaaaapshot

tony286 · 10-25-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by esnem

As with any industry, there are intricacies that only the truly successful understand. It just so happens that one's ability to attack/defend, brag/retract, spam/promote etc. etc. in a public forum are qualities of success inherent to this particular industry. This is not a politically correct industry and it never will be. If you ever doubt that, refer to the header of this site.

For example, it would be completely acceptable for me to reply to your post with:

Now if I were an account rep and afraid of losing my job because I didn't know dick about how the industry worked, I'd most likely reply with:

While this forum is very-much a business oriented forum, the reality is that a lot of us know each other very well off the board as well. A lot of business done is done not in public, or on forums, or meant for other people to see.

CreatineGuy is a good example of a complete fucking moron that will never be successful in this industry no matter how hard he tries, however. Other people you'd be really surprised if you met them in person how creative and smart they actually are compared to how big of an asshole they can play on a message board.

Good points and I also think probably only 40% of the people on this board actually work fulltime in adult.

Barefootsies · 10-25-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica

Why adult business is doomed to fail

10-25-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Good points and I also think probably only 40% of the people on this board actually work fulltime in adult.

that's a good point tony, i actually never think about that.

After Shock Media · 10-25-2007, 07:19 PM

The Target and Wal Mart CEO's have other people or third party companies that they hire or fund to sling their mud at each other for them. They just have enough cash to do drama by proxy.

Worldnet · 10-25-2007, 07:24 PM

You don't take anyone serious here do you? I come here for laughs only.

million · 10-25-2007, 07:34 PM

remember many of those guys do not make ANY money

yahoo-xxx-girls.com · 10-25-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica

All the in-fighting is absolutely amazing and a total waste of fucking time. It's a wonder some of you get anything done. Now granted every business will have a little drama, but the shit here is down right silly. Grown men/women aren't supposed to act this way.

You'll never see Robert Ulrich (Target CEO) or H. Lee Scott (Walmart CEO) ripping each other apart in any kind of public forum, online or off, and they are serious competitors. God damned amazing some of you even have business contacts, if you truly do. A lot of business is based on personality. I can tell you right now, there are a lot here that I would not do business with, simply because of their asinine post and behaviour.

Jesus, grow up and get over this petty shit.

It seems to me that most adult webmasters do not know how to write up a simple business plan for themselves as to determine their overhead and forecast their potential growth...

Its one thing to have words with another, however arguments on the subject of marketing and technical areas are way too complex for forums and a basic understanding is required first... It also seems to me that adult webmasters will try to make themselves appear to be more knowledgeable then what they really are as to gain an upper hand in their marketing. The pros do argue, however they seem to learn very fast that they are not making much money doing so...

O and bump.

Later,

.

AllStar · 10-25-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

3:35PM Robert Ulrich : Can you send me $100 Paypal for $105 Epass
3:36PM H. Lee Scott : You never paid me last time you scammer!
3:37PM Robert Ulrich : Fuck you bitch! You hire illegal aliens!
3:38PM H. Lee Scott : Ya, you sell outdated produce!

ha ha brilliant!

NinjaSteve · 10-25-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

3:35PM Robert Ulrich : Can you send me $100 Paypal for $105 Epass
3:36PM H. Lee Scott : You never paid me last time you scammer!
3:37PM Robert Ulrich : Fuck you bitch! You hire illegal aliens!
3:38PM H. Lee Scott : Ya, you sell outdated produce!

Hahaha, awesome. I can picture it now.

yumma · 10-25-2007, 09:00 PM

adult is the same biz like others and rules the same.

Fap · 10-25-2007, 11:23 PM

Two businesses that are always steady even in times of recession:
Porn
Gambling

G-Rotica · 10-26-2007, 08:24 AM

All very good points. I did use a bad comparison. But I used that comparison simple because most of the people (I use that term loosely) claim to be rolling in the bucks. That was obviously a mistake on my part. there is no way any of those people have even moved out of moms basement.

martinsc · 10-26-2007, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

3:35PM Robert Ulrich : Can you send me $100 Paypal for $105 Epass
3:36PM H. Lee Scott : You never paid me last time you scammer!
3:37PM Robert Ulrich : Fuck you bitch! You hire illegal aliens!
3:38PM H. Lee Scott : Ya, you sell outdated produce!

10-25-2007, 11:14 AM	#1
G-Rotica Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,258	Why adult business is doomed to fail All the in-fighting is absolutely amazing and a total waste of fucking time. It's a wonder some of you get anything done. Now granted every business will have a little drama, but the shit here is down right silly. Grown men/women aren't supposed to act this way. You'll never see Robert Ulrich (Target CEO) or H. Lee Scott (Walmart CEO) ripping each other apart in any kind of public forum, online or off, and they are serious competitors. God damned amazing some of you even have business contacts, if you truly do. A lot of business is based on personality. I can tell you right now, there are a lot here that I would not do business with, simply because of their asinine post and behaviour. Jesus, grow up and get over this petty shit. __________________

10-25-2007, 11:27 AM	#6
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	true... There are lots of persons I have never done biz with, just because they act like idiots. __________________ M&A Queen

10-25-2007, 11:41 AM	#9
Casa Nova Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,867	to each his own,business is business.. they may act like idiots at times, but that's just who they are. Aslong as me associating with them doesn't bring me down, then I'll do business wit hthem. People can be complete morons personality wise but if they run a good business internally then I'm dealing with the business side of things. Most people unfortunately use this board to goof around. __________________ ICQ: 405 009 573

10-25-2007, 01:30 PM	#12
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10-25-2007, 02:18 PM	#15
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10-25-2007, 11:21 AM	#2
CreatineGuy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: AMERICA (If u didn't know yet, America is a continent, not a country) Posts: 461	Very true... However I think you are in the wrong business... Xbiz people are like this... all the dumb people will not trade FOREX or work in Wall Street.. they could never do so, because they are brain limited.. So they work in porn..

10-25-2007, 11:21 AM	#3
nickutis Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 719	They have too much free time, that's why they start these dramas. It's called socializing (when you don't go out too much).

10-25-2007, 11:50 AM	#11
Persius Tap into MOBILE! Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hollywood Posts: 11,779	great post!

10-25-2007, 02:21 PM	#16
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	it's all in good fun, anywone who takes it seriously needs to step away for a bit.

10-25-2007, 02:26 PM	#17
PornMogul Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Location: LA Posts: 1,495	^^^^^ agreed

10-25-2007, 02:28 PM	#18
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	500 dollars + Best Buy = Potential Webmaster

10-25-2007, 02:33 PM	#19
PornMogul Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Location: LA Posts: 1,495	Very true very true. Internet growth means we have to deal with the idiots who can finally afford a computer

10-25-2007, 02:41 PM	#20
PMdave Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,517	you're comparing affiliates and small site owners with the ceo from target and wallmart? Nah... that ain't very realistic compare the big guys with the big guys: do you see Becky from ARS creating drama? Or the owner of TheHun? Or the Silvercash owner? Or any other person that owns a reputable, wellknown business?

10-25-2007, 03:30 PM	#21
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	I don't see the vast majority suffering from infighting.

10-25-2007, 03:42 PM	#22
DBS.US Geo Cities Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Captiva Island, Florida USA Posts: 11,832	3:35PM Robert Ulrich : Can you send me $100 Paypal for $105 Epass 3:36PM H. Lee Scott : You never paid me last time you scammer! 3:37PM Robert Ulrich : Fuck you bitch! You hire illegal aliens! 3:38PM H. Lee Scott : Ya, you sell outdated produce! __________________ Make a Free Chaturbate White Label site in 34 minutes and be making money tonight

10-25-2007, 05:28 PM	#25
GreyWolf So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,036	There are a quota of serious webmasters here who have a clue and a degree of business accumen - they are obvious. It's also awesome that some others can spend 24/7 on a chatboard - fat chance of doing any work of any kind. On a totally different angle, but related to the thread title, - sure, the adult biz will drop in relevance. It has been dropping since the early 70's with the spread of "adult stores". When populations no longer have a "mystique" about porn and become familiar - the novelty/appeal angle and interest drops. As a comparison, (and this has varied from country to country), it was hard not to earn serious money in the 60's-70's onwards by producing porn, cartons of "sex cosmetics" or whatever. It got to a level, we had to keep airshipping in product cos it was sold by the time it arrived. This is no longer the case - again, the "mystique" no longer exists in most western countries. At the same time, there are new people to market to, and other developing nations where there still is a novelty value (tho depends on economics and legalities within these nations), but, they will be the main earners for the adult biz in future. Familiarity breeds contempt - and that can influence a market substantially. The net is no different and has a contributed to losing the "mystique" of porn in a big way - it's now commonplace and nothing special. Last edited by GreyWolf; 10-25-2007 at 05:30 PM..

10-25-2007, 07:19 PM	#31
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	The Target and Wal Mart CEO's have other people or third party companies that they hire or fund to sling their mud at each other for them. They just have enough cash to do drama by proxy. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

10-25-2007, 07:24 PM	#32
Worldnet Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 996	You don't take anyone serious here do you? I come here for laughs only.

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10-25-2007, 11:23 PM	#38
Fap Just Du It Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12,094	Two businesses that are always steady even in times of recession: Porn Gambling

10-26-2007, 08:24 AM	#39
G-Rotica Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,258	All very good points. I did use a bad comparison. But I used that comparison simple because most of the people (I use that term loosely) claim to be rolling in the bucks. That was obviously a mistake on my part. there is no way any of those people have even moved out of moms basement. __________________