Cops arrest reporter for standing on a public sidewalk. - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

BoyAlley · 10-24-2007, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Face it, the guy wanted to get arrested, he even said it. Mission: Accomplished.

WANTED to get arrested? I highly doubt that. WILLING to get arrested in order to defend our civil liberties? Certainly seemed that way to me.

I hope they set up a defense fund for him, so I can send some cash to thank him for standing up for my rights as a citizen of this country.

It's about time people started standing up and saying ENOUGH!

D · 10-24-2007, 05:33 PM

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BoyAlley · 10-24-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

But a news reporter who has a gun to protect himself

He has a constitutional right to own a firearm, and he had a license to carry it concealed. I'm not going to judge and/or criticize someone for exercising their constitutionally protected rights.

baddog · 10-24-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

WANTED to get arrested? I highly doubt that. WILLING to get arrested in order to defend our civil liberties? Certainly seemed that way to me.

I hope they set up a defense fund for him, so I can send some cash to thank him for standing up for my rights as a citizen of this country.

It's about time people started standing up and saying ENOUGH!

There is no question that he went back over across the street, after being asked to leave, with the intention of being arrested. So yes, he wanted to get arrested.

Makes for great footage.

BoyAlley · 10-24-2007, 05:36 PM

PS: Where are all the damn hippies at anyway? We need them right now.

Our country is going to hell.

aico · 10-24-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

He has a constitutional right to own a firearm, and he had a license to carry it concealed. I'm not going to judge and/or criticize someone for exercising their constitutionally protected rights.

quote the whole sentence thanks...

He has the gun because of death threats due to his last story...

You don't know the reporter, maybe he has a reputation of doing harassing stories, which would give someone the reasonable belief that he is there to harass the students and/or faculty.

sortie · 10-24-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

BTW:

Why in the hell so many people in this country are so willing to surrender their constitutional rights at the drop of a god damn hat anymore is above and beyond me......

You should all move to fucking Russia, maybe you'll be happier there, because you sure as hell don't act like Americans.

PS: Three cheers for this new reporter and others like him, they're on the front line of defending our liberties.

I hear all the stuff about rights and I agree, but I also agree that there may be times when a cops ask you to move for reasons that dont need to be explained in great detail.

Maybe the cop just wanted him to move because he is an adult and children are comming out and his policy is to keep all adults out of the area.
Who knows?

The reporter made a big deal about nothing since his camera man was able to zoom in quite fine from across the street when he had to.

And bottom line, the cop ultimately removed a person with a firearm from the school saftey zone so why should I give a fuck.

What the fuck was the reporter going to do, shoot a student for not answering his questions? He's doing a story about violence at the school so he brings a gun and argues with a cop to create some more.

BoyAlley · 10-24-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

You don't know the reporter, maybe he has a reputation of doing harassing stories, which would give someone the reasonable belief that he is there to harass the students and/or faculty.

He was carrying a gun due to death threads from a restaurant owner after he did a report about health violations that led to him being shut down.

Oooh scurry! Better keep him away from teh childrens!

Quit trying to come up with excuses for the gestapo, erm I mean, police.

BoyAlley · 10-24-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie

And bottom line, the cop ultimately removed a person with a firearm from the school saftey zone so why should I give a fuck.

He had a license that allowed him to lawfully carry a firearm in a school safety zone, just not inside of a school building, which he obviously was not.

Don't try to make it sound like him carrying a firearm was a crime.

sortie · 10-24-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

He has the gun because of death threats due to his last story...

Good enough reason to tell him to leave.
The kids could get caught in the cross fire to kill him.
Don't stand next to a guy with a contract on his head.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-24-2007, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie

I hear all the stuff about rights and I agree, but I also agree that there may be times when a cops ask you to move for reasons that dont need to be explained in great detail.

if they don't need to be explained its likely because there is no legal basis thus its a suggestion not a command.

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Originally Posted by sortie

Maybe the cop just wanted him to move because he is an adult and children are comming out and his policy is to keep all adults out of the area.
Who knows?

maybe the reporters policy is to not move when theres no legitimate reason for him to move that couldnt be explained to him.

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Originally Posted by sortie

The reporter made a big deal about nothing since his camera man was able to zoom in quite fine from across the street when he had to.

so if a cop tells you you cant stand on your sidewalk because you could "zoom" in to the sidewalk with your camera , you would be fine with that. ?

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Originally Posted by sortie

And bottom line, the cop ultimately removed a person with a firearm from the school saftey zone so why should I give a fuck.

because he had a perfectly legal right to be there. normally people give a fuck when police break laws

or else why have laws.

aico · 10-24-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

He was carrying a gun due to death threads from a restaurant owner after he did a report about health violations that led to him being shut down.

Oooh scurry! Better keep him away from teh childrens!

Quit trying to come up with excuses for the gestapo, erm I mean, police.

Try thinking outside the box, jesus.

Maybe just maybe this reporter has a reputation is all I am saying. Death threats don't generally come to reporters who do non-harassing stories.

You know absolutely nothing about the reporter nor his reputation, and neither do I. So I am saying that MAYBE he does have a reputation and the school knew of it. Which would give them REASONABLE BELIEF that he was there to harass people.

From what I saw in the video he could have cared less about his story, he just wanted to cause trouble once the opportunity to do so arrived, which also leads me to believe he has a reputation for causing trouble.

It's not fucking rocket science.

BoyAlley · 10-24-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

he just wanted to cause trouble once the opportunity to do so arrived, which also leads me to believe he has a reputation for causing trouble.

Yes because standing up for our rights and liberties as citizens is now considered "causing trouble" in the minds of the brainwashed masses.

Good little citizens just willingly forfeit all of their rights and liberties when the government asks them to. Right?

aico · 10-24-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie

Good enough reason to tell him to leave.
The kids could get caught in the cross fire to kill him.
Don't stand next to a guy with a contract on his head.

actually that is a good point. If it was known that he had a death threat to him, which I am sure he did a whole story about how there was cuz he seems like an attention whore, he was actually putting the students in danger.

aico · 10-24-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Yes because standing up for our rights and liberties as citizens is now considered "causing trouble" in the minds of the brainwashed masses.

Good little citizens just willingly forfeit all of their rights and liberties when the government asks them to. Right?

I'll pick the safety of our children over nicely asking a guy to move across the street anytime.

BoyAlley · 10-24-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

actually that is a good point. If it was known that he had a death threat to him, which I am sure he did a whole story about how there was cuz he seems like an attention whore, he was actually putting the students in danger.

Yes yes and Maybe he was an alien sent down to earth to attack Tom Cruise but couldn't get to him because of the bunker he built. So he decided he would kidnap hundreds of students and hold them hostage on his space ship until the US government agrees to hand over Tom.

We can make up all sorts of stupid shit to justify the cop's actions, none of which is reasonable or has anything to do with what actually happened.

sortie · 10-24-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

He had a license that allowed him to lawfully carry a firearm in a school safety zone, just not inside of a school building, which he obviously was not.

Don't try to make it sound like him carrying a firearm was a crime.

What part about his legal right to carry a gun made the gun not capable of being used?

He packed heat near some kids while knowing he could be the target of a drive by shooting. Not smart.

The cops knew him and didn't want him near the school, that's why they didn't give a reason. They didn't want to say, "because you are scum with a target on your head".

aico · 10-24-2007, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Yes yes and Maybe he was an alien sent down to earth to attack Tom Cruise but couldn't get to him because of the bunker he built. So he decided he would kidnap hundreds of students and hold them hostage on his space ship until the US government agrees to hand over Tom.

We can make up all sorts of stupid shit to justify the cop's actions, none of which is reasonable or has anything to do with what actually happened.

And you base your opinions without knowing all the facts, then ride your little mighty high horse all around in a gay little circle waiving your arms and screaming.

You got it all figured out.

BoyAlley · 10-24-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

And you base your opinions without knowing all the facts, then ride your little mighty high horse all around in a gay little circle waiving your arms and screaming.

You got it all figured out.

Yes because all of these retarded ass excuses you've been making up are all far more logical than:

"The principal hears there's a reporter out front doing a story about what a shitty job he's been doing keeping the children there safe acts of violence. So he calls the school police and tells them to get rid of him."

sortie · 10-24-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

if they don't need to be explained its likely because there is no legal basis thus its a suggestion not a command.

maybe the reporters policy is to not move when theres no legitimate reason for him to move that couldnt be explained to him.

so if a cop tells you you cant stand on your sidewalk because you could "zoom" in to the sidewalk with your camera , you would be fine with that. ?

because he had a perfectly legal right to be there. normally people give a fuck when police break laws

or else why have laws.

Yep, he had all the right to be there, but when they asked him to go across the street it didn't affect what his goal was suposed to be...interview some kids. The kids walked across the same street so why not just do the interviews there?

Also, the cops have rule over anything within 500 feet of the school so if they ask you to leave you need to do that.

I have the right to drive down any public street, but if the cops block it off and say don't go down there then what do you think makes sense for me to do?

baddog · 10-24-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Yes because all of these retarded ass excuses you've been making up are all far more logical than:

"The principal hears there's a reporter out front doing a story about what a shitty job he's been doing keeping the children there safe acts of violence. So he calls the school police and tells them to get rid of him."

Did you make that up while you typed it, or did you have to think about it first?

papill0n · 10-24-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

The school didn't want the news crew out front of their campus to do a story about how much violence is going on. Imagine that, a governmental entity not wanting bad press?

They reacted by sending the police to bully them away.

The officers acted outside of their authority and the law by ordering someone to move from a public location, simply because a governmental entity didn't want to be embarrassed by the press.

Sorry, but that doesn't fly.

i'm with you man that is spot on imho

aico · 10-24-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Yes because all of these retarded ass excuses you've been making up are all far more logical than:

"The principal hears there's a reporter out front doing a story about what a shitty job he's been doing keeping the children there safe acts of violence. So he calls the school police and tells them to get rid of him."

I don't know what happened, or what people knew, as I have stated several times. I am saying that there is probably more to the story than the very one sided video.

But if you'll sleep easier thinking it all went down just the way you think, go for it. It's a pretty ignorant approach, however.

D · 10-24-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

I'll pick the safety of our children over nicely asking a guy to move across the street anytime.

He wasn't just asked, he was forced. There's a difference.

You comment here is part of what I feel's wrong with America today. We seem to have no problem surrendering rights and freedoms for the illusion of security.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-24-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie

Yep, he had all the right to be there, but when they asked him to go across the street it didn't affect what his goal was suposed to be...interview some kids. The kids walked across the same street so why not just do the interviews there?

why not just let the cops tell us what to do and how to do things, then we wouldnt even need to think

he was a reporter he wanted to do a story on the school , obviously with the school in the background..

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Originally Posted by sortie

Also, the cops have rule over anything within 500 feet of the school so if they ask you to leave you need to do that.

cops dont have or make rules.. they enforce laws we have asked them to enforce. if a cop "asks" you to do something , it's not a command , if he commands you to do something you must obey , the way to fight it is not by disobeying.

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Originally Posted by sortie

I have the right to drive down any public street, but if the cops block it off and say don't go down there then what do you think makes sense for me to do?

find out why the street is blocked, and if they were only blocking it because you wanted to go down it then the cop shouldnt be blocking it..

if you asked " why is the street blocked ?" do you think its reasonable for them to tell you ?

aico · 10-24-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by D

He wasn't just asked, he was forced. There's a difference.

You comment here is part of what I feel's wrong with America today. We seem to have no problem surrendering rights and freedoms for the illusion of security.

ya, you're right, saying "I kindly ask you to go the other side of the street" is such a shitty way to go about it.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com · 10-24-2007, 06:24 PM

It's very easy for any rent a cop or city cop as to give orders to the general public, however it does not alway make it right... nor does it mean anything was done against the law... It should be known that a cop cannot utter that he or she is going to arrest someone as a threat... this is against the law... at least here in Canada... also if you resist against unlawful arrest you are entitled to use as much force as you see fit without overdoing it... however if you do so you should inform your attorney and or law office... and lay criminal charges against the individual(s) and or companies... for damages.

Later,

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D · 10-24-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

ya, you're right, saying "I kindly ask you to go the other side of the street" is such a shitty way to go about it.

I never claimed the cop didn't have manners... but, then, I fail to see what social graces have to do with anything.

sortie · 10-24-2007, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

if you asked " why is the street blocked ?" do you think its reasonable for them to tell you ?

Yes.

And if they don't tell me and I start bitching about it and the cops snatch me out of the car and arrest me and the video is posted on youtube all the comments will be the following:

"smart mouth a-hole deserved it"
"Obey the cops and you won't have problems"
"you're an idiot"
"Next time maybe you'll STFU"

And these people will be on my jury if I take the case to court.

So, tell me all about what's right and I already know that.
I'm telling you about what the end resut is going to be wether I'm right or not.

Not many parents are going to back up the reporters right to be there in front of the school. Nobody would even be discussing this if it was a bum that got arrested for not going across the street.

aico · 10-24-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by D

I never claimed the cop didn't have manners... but, then, I fail to see what social graces have to do with anything.

And I never claimed that his rights were not violated, I merely stated that maybe there is more to the story than what's on the video. This usually is the case.

D · 10-24-2007, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

And I never claimed that his rights were not violated, I merely stated that maybe there is more to the story than what's on the video. This usually is the case.

I can agree with that, but then - I never argued the point.

My point was in the surrendering of rights and liberties for nothing more than to feel safer... even if it's "for the children"... and that it seems to a trend that people are accepting without much thought.

GreyWolf · 10-24-2007, 06:53 PM

Oh dear.... Officer Plod and his rookie brigade are playing at law enforcement officers doing the school patrol in a no-win scenario.

It's too sad and pathetic - whatever the combination of laws and bullshit enable that stupidity, it sure is well screwed. It's a candidate for a comedy show for police officers worldwide

Drake · 10-24-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Maybe just maybe this reporter has a reputation is all I am saying. Death threats don't generally come to reporters who do non-harassing stories.

You know absolutely nothing about the reporter nor his reputation, and neither do I. So I am saying that MAYBE he does have a reputation and the school knew of it. Which would give them REASONABLE BELIEF that he was there to harass people.

My guess is that it's not uncommon for a report to receive death threats when he does good reporting and exposes problems people are trying to hide. The video states that he started getting threats after reporting about restaurants with food safety violations. If this is the case, it's not "harassment" at all. Besides, a reporter who "harasses" people for no legitimate reason would probably get fired. There is no reason to believe that he was there to "harass" anybody. Even if he was there to do a "harassing-type" story (your words, not mine), he's in his right to do so.

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GreyWolf So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,036	Oh dear.... Officer Plod and his rookie brigade are playing at law enforcement officers doing the school patrol in a no-win scenario. It's too sad and pathetic - whatever the combination of laws and bullshit enable that stupidity, it sure is well screwed. It's a candidate for a comedy show for police officers worldwide