Judge Drops Rape Charge Against Man Because Victim Was Hooker - Charges Theft Instead - GoFuckYourself.com

BoyAlley · 10-21-2007, 12:41 PM

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A DEFENDANT accused of forcing a prostitute at gunpoint to have sex with him and three other men got lucky, so to speak, last week.

A Philadelphia judge dropped all sex and assault charges at his preliminary hearing.

Municipal Judge Teresa Carr Deni instead held the defendant on the bizarre charge of armed robbery for - get this - "theft of services."

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/colu...e_system_.html

Unbelievable....................

ThunderBalls · 10-21-2007, 12:43 PM

Makes sense to me.

Just Alex · 10-21-2007, 12:46 PM

well, she was at work.

Elli · 10-21-2007, 12:53 PM

Wow. That's one heck of a precedent. I hope she appeals.

hateman · 10-21-2007, 12:56 PM

Hookers a lying sacks of shit.

The charges were most probably fake.

sortie · 10-21-2007, 01:44 PM

Well, if she agreed to have sex for a price before he pulled out the gun then maybe it is theft since the consent to sex was already established and it was only the price that was in dispute.

It's still bullshit though.

fatfoo · 10-21-2007, 02:00 PM

haha, that is weird

crockett · 10-21-2007, 02:07 PM

Theft of services I guess?

hateman · 10-21-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Theft of services I guess?

what services? prostitution is illegal.

Drake · 10-21-2007, 02:24 PM

I don't think she's lying since the article says that the same thing happened to another woman 4 days later involving the same guy(s). Neither of the women knew each other.

KingK7 · 10-21-2007, 02:26 PM

He stole her pussy?

BoyAlley · 10-21-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie

Well, if she agreed to have sex for a price before he pulled out the gun then maybe it is theft since the consent to sex was already established.

FYI TO BREEDERS: A woman can withdraw consent at any time. No means no, and stop means stop. Period.

Oracle Porn · 10-21-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie

Well, if she agreed to have sex for a price before he pulled out the gun then maybe it is theft since the consent to sex was already established and it was only the price that was in dispute.

It's still bullshit though.

pornask · 10-21-2007, 02:28 PM

So even hookers at work are now looking for quick buck by suing people? WTF???

Libertine · 10-21-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie

Well, if she agreed to have sex for a price before he pulled out the gun then maybe it is theft since the consent to sex was already established and it was only the price that was in dispute.

It's still bullshit though.

Consent is something that can be taken away at any time - the moment someone refuses, it's gone.

You could compare this case to someone asking a girl at a club if she wants to come home with him for sex, her agreeing and coming along, only to change her mind when they arrive. Pulling a gun on the girl from the club and gang-raping her would quite clearly still be rape, even if she consented to sex at some earlier point.

It doesn't matter that the woman in this particular case was a prostitute, and it doesn't matter that she agreed to sex for money under different circumstances. What matters is that the victim was forced to have sex with these guys against her will - at gunpoint, no less.

The judge's decision is sickening, because she doesn't seem to be aware of the one major feature of rape: lack of consent at the moment the act occurs. It doesn't matter if the victim is a whore, a slut, Mother Theresa or a porn star. It doesn't matter if the victim is married to the offender. The moment someone says no, it's time to stop.

Silly Guy · 10-21-2007, 02:34 PM

"It's true the prostitute negotiated sex with the defendant - but not unprotected gang sex at gunpoint."

that about sums it up....crazy decision

Xplicit · 10-21-2007, 03:32 PM

I'm not saying what he did was ok - BUT she should have been expecting it.

This happens to almost all prositiutes, if she met even 1 or 2 other ones she would know this.

Its all because its illegal, what woman is gonna goto the police saying "the guy was supposed to pay for sex but he didn't!" ?

Its so strange we have laws that actually make women a prime target for rape, while at the same time increasing the guy's risk of getting STDs. If it was legal these girls would be operating in fairly safe environments and getting STD tested by law.

Just Alex · 10-21-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

FYI TO BREEDERS: A woman can withdraw consent at any time. No means no, and stop means stop. Period.

have you ever had to say NO?

BoyAlley · 10-21-2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexis Content

have you ever had to say NO?

Silly breeder, faggots never say no........

xmas13 · 10-21-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Silly Guy

"It's true the prostitute negotiated sex with the defendant - but not unprotected gang sex at gunpoint."

that about sums it up....crazy decision

Sick

The judge decision is putting the health of other prostitutes in danger.

UNPROTECTED RAPE= THEFT OF SERVICES?

sortie · 10-21-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

gecko · 10-21-2007, 04:15 PM

That is fucked up

SmokeyTheBear · 10-21-2007, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

Consent is something that can be taken away at any time - the moment someone refuses, it's gone.

You could compare this case to someone asking a girl at a club if she wants to come home with him for sex, her agreeing and coming along, only to change her mind when they arrive. Pulling a gun on the girl from the club and gang-raping her would quite clearly still be rape, even if she consented to sex at some earlier point.

It doesn't matter that the woman in this particular case was a prostitute, and it doesn't matter that she agreed to sex for money under different circumstances. What matters is that the victim was forced to have sex with these guys against her will - at gunpoint, no less.

The judge's decision is sickening, because she doesn't seem to be aware of the one major feature of rape: lack of consent at the moment the act occurs. It doesn't matter if the victim is a whore, a slut, Mother Theresa or a porn star. It doesn't matter if the victim is married to the offender. The moment someone says no, it's time to stop.

your assuming she said no..

she may have agreed to the sex , even with multiple men then when it was time to pay they pulled a gun. it would be hardly fair to clasify that as rape .. its certainly not legal but i dont think i would call that rape. i would be inclined to call that armed robbery

infact a likely scenario may have been they asked to have sex for $x and she assumed they meant $x for each guy , when she realised she was only getting $x for all the men ,she asked for the cash, they pulled a gun told her to fuck off.

Libertine · 10-26-2007, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

your assuming she said no..

she may have agreed to the sex , even with multiple men then when it was time to pay they pulled a gun. it would be hardly fair to clasify that as rape .. its certainly not legal but i dont think i would call that rape. i would be inclined to call that armed robbery

infact a likely scenario may have been they asked to have sex for $x and she assumed they meant $x for each guy , when she realised she was only getting $x for all the men ,she asked for the cash, they pulled a gun told her to fuck off.

The story mentions that "the gun was pulled and more men arrived", and that she didn't agree to "unprotected gang sex at gunpoint". That basically says that she was threatened before sex with those other men took place, and that she was forced to have unprotected sex which she didn't consent to.

SCtyger · 10-26-2007, 04:27 PM

thats why all prositutes need Pimps! keep the pimp hand strong!

tenletters · 10-26-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SCtyger

thats why all prositutes need Pimps! keep the pimp hand strong!

indeed... this isn't a case that should go to court. Ever see the movie 'I spit on your grave' ??

Ron Bennett · 10-26-2007, 06:03 PM

How can it be "theft of service", when said service is illegal?

Or is prostitution legal now in Philly?

Ron

VeriSexy · 10-26-2007, 08:20 PM

fucked up all around

tony286 · 10-26-2007, 08:37 PM

thats very fucked up.

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 10-26-2007, 09:03 PM

Rape is rape no matter what the occupation of said victim is

RawAlex · 10-26-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday

Rape is rape no matter what the occupation of said victim is

Would it have been rape if they paid her $20 first? Perhaps they entered into a contract and failed to pay.

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Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	I don't think she's lying since the article says that the same thing happened to another woman 4 days later involving the same guy(s). Neither of the women knew each other.

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pornask So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 253-233-241 Posts: 6,518	So even hookers at work are now looking for quick buck by suing people? WTF???

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Silly Guy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,421	"It's true the prostitute negotiated sex with the defendant - but not unprotected gang sex at gunpoint." that about sums it up....crazy decision

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Xplicit Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: █◄►█ Posts: 3,558	I'm not saying what he did was ok - BUT she should have been expecting it. This happens to almost all prositiutes, if she met even 1 or 2 other ones she would know this. Its all because its illegal, what woman is gonna goto the police saying "the guy was supposed to pay for sex but he didn't!" ? Its so strange we have laws that actually make women a prime target for rape, while at the same time increasing the guy's risk of getting STDs. If it was legal these girls would be operating in fairly safe environments and getting STD tested by law.

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