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Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-13-2007, 08:48 PM

www.meetjoefrancis.com

Great read.

DateDoc · 10-13-2007, 08:50 PM

http://www.meetjoefrancis.com/legalstory/

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 10-13-2007, 09:12 PM

Tell it to the Judge...

During happier times...

ADG

Zuzana Designs · 10-13-2007, 09:15 PM

lol at paris tities

BoyAlley · 10-13-2007, 09:20 PM

I'm pretty sure the only way to meet him at this point, is to visit prison.....

DaddyHalbucks · 10-13-2007, 09:20 PM

Good PR. I wonder how much he paid for that advice/ site.

tony286 · 10-13-2007, 09:21 PM

To make so much money and to fuck up over such stupid shit is such a waste.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-13-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

To make so much money and to fuck up over such stupid shit is such a waste.

Did you read his site ?

tony286 · 10-13-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Batts

Did you read his site ?

Oh you mean what Joe Francis's PR people wrote, your kidding right?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 10-13-2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Good PR. I wonder how much he paid for that advice/ site.

Joe Francis has always been about self-promotion.

His downfall began when he started believing his own hype...

ADG

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-13-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Oh you mean what Joe Francis's PR people wrote, your kidding right?

Oh yeah and lets believe everything that we see on Fox news also

Your kidding right.

tony286 · 10-13-2007, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Batts

Oh yeah and lets believe everything that we see on Fox news also

Your kidding right.

Has nothing to do with fox news. Are you that gullible? You strike me as a very smart guy.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-13-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Has nothing to do with fox news. Are you that gullible? You strike me as a very smart guy.

You are now joking right ?

I did not say that i believe everything on his site, but i don't believe everything i see on the news either.

There is always two sides to every story my friend.

tony286 · 10-13-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Batts

You are now joking right ?

I did not say that i believe everything on his site, but i don't believe everything i see on the news either.

There is always two sides to every story my friend.

I agree with you there are two stories but to be that rich and that sloppy is fucking dumb. He painted a big fucking target on himself and then is surprised give me a fucking break.Also shooting underage girls makes us all look bad,they couldnt find a couple of girls that were of age.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...e102310S25.DTL
this is not fox news its liberal towns news paper.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-13-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I agree with you there are two stories but to be that rich and that sloppy is fucking dumb. He painted a big fucking target on himself and then is surprised give me a fucking break.Also shooting underage girls makes us all look bad,they couldnt find a couple of girls that were of age.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...e102310S25.DTL
this is not fox news its liberal towns news paper.

How do you know he is that sloppy and dumb, did you work for him ? do you know him personally ?

I dont agree with everything he has done, but its the tall poppy syndrome.

If a girl produces id that says she is 18, how is he suppose to know that she was underage and it was not him that actually shot them.

tony286 · 10-13-2007, 10:53 PM

I dont have to work for him to know he is sloppy he is sitting in fucking jail and there is the tax evasion charges.

Batts this guy has had a history and how many things can you write off as just the news picking on him?
Hugh Hefner even said on Larry King he didn't think Joe Francis was a very nice guy. Is he part of the media conspiracy to get him?

If Joe was so wronged why is the industry standing behind him.

Drake · 10-13-2007, 10:57 PM

It's been 6 months already. Times flies.

tony286 · 10-13-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I dont have to work for him to know he is sloppy he is sitting in fucking jail and there is the tax evasion charges.

Batts this guy has had a history and how many things can you write off as just the news picking on him?
Hugh Hefner even said on Larry King he didn't think Joe Francis was a very nice guy. Is he part of the media conspiracy to get him?

If Joe was so wronged why is the industry standing behind him.

I meant why isnt the industry standing behind him. I dont know Joe before all the bullshit in the news papers I respected his success but too many stories he makes us all look bad.

Angie77 · 10-14-2007, 09:30 AM

I hate that sleaze ball douche bag.

Extreme John · 10-14-2007, 09:40 AM

thats a good read. I will say I dont believe probably 75% of what the news reports it, I feel like I see right through the shit they typically inflate. However I also have the belief that if someone points the finger at you twice and says you smell, it could be a little misunderstanding, if people continue to point at you and say you smell, it's harder to believe the person doesnt at least have something going on.

fuzebox · 10-14-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I agree with you there are two stories but to be that rich and that sloppy is fucking dumb. He painted a big fucking target on himself and then is surprised give me a fucking break.Also shooting underage girls makes us all look bad,they couldnt find a couple of girls that were of age.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...e102310S25.DTL
this is not fox news its liberal towns news paper.

Wow, for someone who makes a living from the adult industry you're pretty quick to believe the same media type that targets all of us.

It might be a little much to compare him to Hef or Flynt, but when you reach a certain popularity level, all sorts of people target you unfairly.

Would you say the same things about the producers who shot Tracy Lords when she was performing under a fake ID? I know you shoot content, do you shoot more than one model? Have you dealt with a lot of models in the past? It's not unlikely to be faced with a situation like that, I know a lot of underage girls who have used fake IDs for a lot of reasons.

I just find it sad that people won't support someone in our industry just because he has a little more fun than the next guy.

Peaches · 10-14-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I dont have to work for him to know he is sloppy he is sitting in fucking jail and there is the tax evasion charges.him.

I worked for a guy in the 900 biz who was one of the smartest people I know (and those around during this time know who I'm talking about). He got nailed on tax evasion charges too. It doesn't just happen to stupid people. He ended up spending 4.5 years in Club Fed and by most estimates, netted about $50-60mil out of that one deal alone. Now he's free, rich and living in another country, AFAIK

tony286 · 10-14-2007, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Wow, for someone who makes a living from the adult industry you're pretty quick to believe the same media type that targets all of us.

It might be a little much to compare him to Hef or Flynt, but when you reach a certain popularity level, all sorts of people target you unfairly.

Would you say the same things about the producers who shot Tracy Lords when she was performing under a fake ID? I know you shoot content, do you shoot more than one model? Have you dealt with a lot of models in the past? It's not unlikely to be faced with a situation like that, I know a lot of underage girls who have used fake IDs for a lot of reasons.

I just find it sad that people won't support someone in our industry just because he has a little more fun than the next guy.

A few things Tracy lords didnt have a fake id she had a government issued id that said she was of age.
From everything I read and the proof Joe shows on his site,there were no ids of any kind in this case. They signed a piece of paper saying they were over 18 and said it on camera. Which we all know is bullshit. Also its very hard now to fake a government issued id.Also if this so common how come there are so few cases of under age performers?
He plead guilty to that, if your innocent got a big war chest to fight and you plead guilty?
I can see one article on someone its a hatch job ,there are a ton on this guy and very few have a good thing to say and when hugh hefner says I dont think he is a nice guy. Come on Hugh is part of a media conspiracy on Joe?

Peaches · 10-14-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Would you say the same things about the producers who shot Tracy Lords when she was performing under a fake ID? I know you shoot content, do you shoot more than one model? Have you dealt with a lot of models in the past? It's not unlikely to be faced with a situation like that, I know a lot of underage girls who have used fake IDs for a lot of reasons.

From the time I was 15 I had a state (FL) issued driver's license with my picture on it and someone else's info to say I was 18. All I had to do was go to the DMV with the paperwork my friend had given me, get my picture taken, get the license, walk out the door. There's NO WAY anyone would have caught it as a fake license because it WAS a real license.

I doubt it's still that easy, but I'm sure there are ways to get very "real" fake IDs (is that an oxymoron?)

tony286 · 10-14-2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

From the time I was 15 I had a state (FL) issued driver's license with my picture on it and someone else's info to say I was 18. All I had to do was go to the DMV with the paperwork my friend had given me, get my picture taken, get the license, walk out the door. There's NO WAY anyone would have caught it as a fake license because it WAS a real license.

I doubt it's still that easy, but I'm sure there are ways to get very "real" fake IDs (is that an oxymoron?)

its different now, everything is networked and the ids themselves have watermarks much much harder to copy.to get passable fakes of government id now probably would cost big bucks.

Peaches · 10-14-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

its different now, everything is networked and the ids themselves have watermarks much much harder to copy.to get passable fakes of government id now probably would cost big bucks.

I had the originals, not copies. In thinking back on it, I see no reason why I wouldn't be able to do the same thing again. The only that would "catch" me would be if they compared pictures of the old ID with me, but even then we looked enough alike to have passed.

All you really need is two willing participants. I'm betting there are 1000s of illegal immigrants with driver's licenses using this same scenario.

tony286 · 10-14-2007, 11:45 AM

Im sorry, If I had all that money and my company dealt with so many girls. I would have a guy whose only job would be to check government issue ids. He would be educated on spotting fakes and paid well for this work.

Violetta · 10-14-2007, 11:55 AM

never heard of the guy before..

Phil · 10-14-2007, 11:58 AM

Joe Ftancis for president.

pornask · 10-14-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Angie77

I hate that sleaze ball douche bag.

I know nothing of the guy, but I hate that douche on the principle...

fuzebox · 10-14-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

From everything I read and the proof Joe shows on his site,there were no ids of any kind in this case. They signed a piece of paper saying they were over 18 and said it on camera

Pretty much every GGW film I've seen was shot in a bar/club... I've been to some of the same clubs, and if I can't get in without being ID'd, neither can these girls. I've also been to a GGW party in Vancouver and they were ID'ing girls there at the door.

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He plead guilty to that, if your innocent got a big war chest to fight and you plead guilty?

Legally he is guilty, the girls were underage... That doesn't speak to his character though.

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and when hugh hefner says I dont think he is a nice guy.

You don't think the media calling him the "next Hef" had anything to do with that?

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I dont have to work for him to know he is sloppy he is sitting in fucking jail and there is the tax evasion charges. Batts this guy has had a history and how many things can you write off as just the news picking on him? Hugh Hefner even said on Larry King he didn't think Joe Francis was a very nice guy. Is he part of the media conspiracy to get him? If Joe was so wronged why is the industry standing behind him. Last edited by tony299; 10-13-2007 at 10:56 PM..

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