Bugatti Veyron Beats up on a Mclaren SLR (vid) - GoFuckYourself.com

UniversalPass Pete · 10-12-2007, 01:52 PM

The SLR is a fucking fast car! but the Bugatti pulls on it like it's standing still! Damm!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=unRvo...elated&search=

ProducerCashDave · 10-12-2007, 01:55 PM

Wow it makes the benz seem like a slow ass car when its not

FredIsMe · 10-12-2007, 01:59 PM

I love the Veyron, the best bang for the buck.

xNetworx · 10-12-2007, 02:01 PM

Why would they bother racing? Anybody knows which car will win.

RawAlex · 10-12-2007, 02:34 PM

Welcome to "duh, 40% more horsepower makes one car faster in a straight line than the other".

DaddyHalbucks · 10-12-2007, 02:35 PM

The Bugatti also appears to be more stable.

buzzy · 10-12-2007, 02:40 PM

Veyron would get raped on the track.

egbiz · 10-12-2007, 02:44 PM

What'd you expect 1001 HP vs. 6 something

Veyron is one of the fastest production cars ever made.

LOL @ Best bang for your buck .. Your 1.2mil buck

Gottis · 10-12-2007, 02:52 PM

Veyron is fuckin ugly, looks like a monkey designed it

ferrari all day everyday

UniversalPass Pete · 10-12-2007, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Welcome to "duh, 40% more horsepower makes one car faster in a straight line than the other".

Wrong! The weight and gearing of a car is as important, if not more so that raw HP! I have seen a 500hp car kill an 800hp car based on weight alone. Although in this case it was kind of obvious who was going to win!

VeriSexy · 10-12-2007, 03:03 PM

Zoom zoom baby

Rochard · 10-12-2007, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gottis

Veyron is fuckin ugly, looks like a monkey designed it

ferrari all day everyday

Ferrari is by far the best looking exotic.....

Sorry, can't compare the Bugatti vs the SLR.... Bugatti is nearly twice as much and has some 400+ extra HP.

Luca_Triple 10 · 10-12-2007, 03:38 PM

I agree with the ferrari lovers... you can't beat "made in italy"

however, i saw scott storch's bugatti and it was one of the coolest things i've ever seen! that car in person is breathtaking!

BlueDesignStudios · 10-12-2007, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gottis

Veyron is fuckin ugly, looks like a monkey designed it

ferrari all day everyday

I'm pretty sure it wasn't a monkey doing the design

RawAlex · 10-12-2007, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniversalPass Pete

Wrong! The weight and gearing of a car is as important, if not more so that raw HP! I have seen a 500hp car kill an 800hp car based on weight alone. Although in this case it was kind of obvious who was going to win!

Math of HP to weight requires a pretty big shift to get a difference. If you take two similar cars side by side (say bone stock mustang GTs) and add 200 pounds to one and not the other, you might see a couple of tenths in a quarter mile run.

Consider that the two cars in question are both relatively porky, withthe Bugatti weighing in at over 4100 pounds, and the Merc rough number of about 3300 pounds. Less than a third more weight, more than a third more horsepower. Both cars are geared to generate high autobahn style speeds.

The Bugatti benefits greatly during acceleration by having all wheel drive, which means that the theoretical limit of tire grip is much higher without spinning the wheels, which leads directly to more horsepower being put the game from the get go.

It really isn't a surprise in the slightest. 25% more weight, 55% more horsepower, and nearly twice the available traction. Did I miss anything?

gecko · 10-12-2007, 05:13 PM

bad ass clip.

UniversalPass Pete · 10-12-2007, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Math of HP to weight requires a pretty big shift to get a difference. If you take two similar cars side by side (say bone stock mustang GTs) and add 200 pounds to one and not the other, you might see a couple of tenths in a quarter mile run.

Consider that the two cars in question are both relatively porky, withthe Bugatti weighing in at over 4100 pounds, and the Merc rough number of about 3300 pounds. Less than a third more weight, more than a third more horsepower. Both cars are geared to generate high autobahn style speeds.

The Bugatti benefits greatly during acceleration by having all wheel drive, which means that the theoretical limit of tire grip is much higher without spinning the wheels, which leads directly to more horsepower being put the game from the get go.

It really isn't a surprise in the slightest. 25% more weight, 55% more horsepower, and nearly twice the available traction. Did I miss anything?

In this case as I mentioned before it was kind of obvious. In this case the two cars are more or less the same weight! If fact I believe that the Benz is heavier than the Buggati. I don?t believe that its 3300 lbs (more like 4300lbs), but I could be wrong on that! The video was posted to illustrate just how powerful it is next to an otherwise incredibly fast super car! Nothing more!

Torque is as much a factor, in fact more so in acceleration than hp, and the variability?s in where within the power band either is applied. You can have for example 2 cars that weigh the same, and have the same hp, same gearing ratio etc. And you can have a second or more difference in the quarter mile (not due to driver error) and different terminal speeds. Some engines are designed to bring more torque and less hp other engines are built to bring higher hp figures, peak torque in an engine is brought at the lower end of the power band (to get things moving) and peak hp usually comes a little before, or in some cases redline. If one engine is stronger than the other in torque, than it will beat it off the line, out off the hole, and ultimately in the ¼ mile. It all really depends on how the motor is setup! And what it?s setup to deliver. Sometime what you see on paper does not guarantee the outcome, and are to many variability?s and other factors, It?s not limited to any one or two factors, Weight, gearing, hp, torque, traction, variability?s in engine torque and hp delivery. That is why a car with less hp and more weight car beat a car that on paper it really shouldn?t. And there are examples of that! Like the Porsche 911 turbo, it beats cars 0-60 that it really shouldn?t, and although it does have an advantage in being all wheel drive, there is enough difference in hp and weight disadvantage to argue any real benefit that the all wheel drive provides, given the size tires they are equipping the many of these cars with.

Bottom line is yes agreed more hp and less weight make a faster car! But where power is made can make a big difference in the out come of either a standing or rolling quarter mile race.

peterk · 10-12-2007, 07:31 PM

Bugatti Veyron is a kick ass car.

fatfoo · 10-12-2007, 07:32 PM

that's cooool

HouseHead · 10-12-2007, 07:33 PM

two very nice rydes

BluMedia · 10-12-2007, 08:54 PM

Damn that is crazy fast. :D

Mark

Shagbunny · 10-12-2007, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luca_Triple 10

I agree with the ferrari lovers... you can't beat "made in italy"

however, i saw scott storch's bugatti and it was one of the coolest things i've ever seen! that car in person is breathtaking!

I'll take Made in Germany

Shagbunny · 10-12-2007, 09:19 PM

wonder how the Veyron would fare against a McLaren F1

RawAlex · 10-12-2007, 10:29 PM

Pete, the SLR weighs in about 200-250 pounds less than the Bugatti at 3898 lb.

My assumptions are this: the video shows a rolling start, which means the issue of scrolling up turbos is pretty much gone. One car drives two wheels, one drives four. One has 40% more horsepower, and both cars are geared and aimed to hit 200 or more MPH so the gearing is pretty similar.

Net net, 400 more horsepower (1001 to 600) versus curb weigth (4100 to 3900) gives the bugatti a significant advantage. Only 4 pounds per HP to pull around, versus 6.5 pounds per pony in the SLR. Not slouch numbers on either side but still a real issue (for comparision, my GTI, which isn't a slow car, is moving 16 plus pounds per HP). When you consider the gearing is similar and all, that near 40% advantage in the P/W ratio is really hard to overcome. In theory, the SLR would have to get down to around 2500 pounds to have a hope in a straight line, and that would entirely depend on their ability to get any grip at that level. With the 4 wheel drive, the Bugatti is in a better position to put more power to the road with less weight because they are less likely to light'em up.

DaddyHalbucks · 10-12-2007, 10:37 PM

The Bugatti rocks big time.

Vitasoy · 10-13-2007, 03:10 AM

Both of the rides make me wet.

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RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Pete, the SLR weighs in about 200-250 pounds less than the Bugatti at 3898 lb. My assumptions are this: the video shows a rolling start, which means the issue of scrolling up turbos is pretty much gone. One car drives two wheels, one drives four. One has 40% more horsepower, and both cars are geared and aimed to hit 200 or more MPH so the gearing is pretty similar. Net net, 400 more horsepower (1001 to 600) versus curb weigth (4100 to 3900) gives the bugatti a significant advantage. Only 4 pounds per HP to pull around, versus 6.5 pounds per pony in the SLR. Not slouch numbers on either side but still a real issue (for comparision, my GTI, which isn't a slow car, is moving 16 plus pounds per HP). When you consider the gearing is similar and all, that near 40% advantage in the P/W ratio is really hard to overcome. In theory, the SLR would have to get down to around 2500 pounds to have a hope in a straight line, and that would entirely depend on their ability to get any grip at that level. With the 4 wheel drive, the Bugatti is in a better position to put more power to the road with less weight because they are less likely to light'em up.

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