the short answer there is no. Law should default to abort if the two can't agree.

I gotta crash... I'm falling asleep on my keyboard again....

great convo tit.... thanks.... :winkwink:

Can't we just abort all the "ProLifers"?
hehehe

Here's what I always wondered. Abortion is not considered murder by law. Technically it is not a life yet by law.

But if someone attacks a pregnant woman and kills her, he can be charged with 2 counts of murder, one for the woman and one for the unborn child. However we just established above that it is ok to kill an unborn child. But wait, only if the mother says so? So if a psycho stabs a pregnant woman in the stomach and kills the baby, is charged with murder, but then the woman comes forward and says its ok she was getting an abortion anyways, are the murder charges dropped? No. Why not?

If a pregnant woman has an abortion, all is fine and dandy. If a pregnant woman takes a knife and stabs herself in the stomach and kills the baby, she is charged with murder. Wherein lies the difference?

in that case, because the guy that did the stabbing is clearly a lunatic that must be locked away from society. We can't just go around stabbing people now can we.

If a woman stabs herself in the stomach with a knife, she's probably dead.

Right! Now, let's make it confusing...
The attacker kills the pregnant woman... Yet the unborn child was unharmed... Let's say someone saw the attack, called 911, and they rushed the woman to the hospital. They deliver the baby prematurly, and put it on life support. The baby dies as it was removed from the womb too early, and the life support just wasn't enough to keep it alive.

Now, the attacker didn't kill the baby. It died of natural causes. However, if the attacker hadn't killed the mother, there was a good chance for the baby to be born normally.

Would the attacker be charged for that death?

it is an easy one, without having to resort to convoluted hyperthetical dilemmas.
it is a matter for the individual, there is no room there for others to impose their views.

one question a right to lifer should ask themselves is if it is right to force a JW to take blood transfusions to live.

it really is a simple matter :)