Errrrrr, you have the wrong guy since I have no idea what you're talking about with both issues you mentioned.

:helpme

Do you see me calling you a morron. :mad::mad:

... but it does prove that it is the real 12Clicks that is actually posting .... :thumbsup

I wouldnt head down the language path. Hell in 1915 a good chunk of the north east/mid east of the US spoke German.

Not to make light of a situation like that, but really it could be because Bush isn't able to pronounce the words...?

Sorry :(

Dickhead.

this comment shows you are a true idiot. its a old mans way of saying "im always right"

hey mr. never oppose me, why did the discussion just flip to ottoman empire when you got cornered??? hold on ill be back.

Dave dont waste time with this troll

This is your original post.
Are you saying:

A) america should have NOT accepted the holocaust IF they had germany doing they're bidding????

B) America should not consider the holocaust a genocide if they found out about it 100 yrs later? that time makes it allllll better?

C) The only reason the holocaust was accepted was to "make jews feel good"


Which one is it Mr. dont oppose me its not a good idea im a has been stuck in the past with a chip on my shoulder and a super special skill allowing me to ignore facts???? You sayin the jewish people and those slain in the holocaust were full of shit???

there was no holocaust and the ONLY reason for acknowledging it is Geo-Politics 101???

stupid fuck. answer that before you start a debate whether the ottoman empire was turkey or not.

But... just like BradM said, you're probably going to say sumthin dumb and post a ":1orglaugh" to get your ass out of it. lets hear it idiot

Fresh: STOP NOW wasting your energy.
12clicks is mentally retarded. There's something SERIOUSLY wrong with him. He is so stupid its the reason babies cry when they are born.

Just stop now trust me.

Watching you dance is amazing. You obviously justify and from your overt support the rape and murder of children. It's no wonder you have incest domains and monetize them.

You're not teaching second grade because you barely graduated high school - you have no education and if not for mojo, you'd be begging for a laborer Job. Trying to imply you know shit about geopolitics is comical.

You openly support pedophelia, rape, torture, murder and any other assorted crimes to justify the fact you aren't educated in the slightest about history. The Turks raped little armenian girls. That's acceptable to you apparently. I hope you have daughters and when they're raped, you tell them about the high school flunky version of geopolitics you ascribe to. You shouldn't file a report or complain. That would be contradictory. Why should I do anything other than laugh when your wife is raped...if it impedes our national interest?

When your children or wife are raped and murdered by an allie, please post. So we can laugh at you and say keep your illiterate mouth shut. It might hurt our foreign policy. I hope your entire family crawls from welfare and gets slaughtered...so we can all laugh at your cries. You'd never say anything about Jews because without Weg - you'd be broke.

Cell phone posting rules.

I hope Bush is reading this thread.

They don't care unless there is oil.

So because someone told you girls were raped during the war you call the whole shit a genocide ?

nice....

I was hoping 12clicks girls would be raped...you're dismissing that there was a genocide?

I was hoping 12clicks children would be raped...you're dismissing that there was a genocide?

double post

You do understand, hitler used the genocide of the armenians by the Turks to justify the eradication of the Jews yes?

A govt that talks about freedom and the people's will - discounting the slaughter of untold numbers of people because it will impede their political agenda...how many children do you and 12clicks want to rape and murder to further your political agenda?

What I want is to have your wife and children taken into custody...I want to see the video of them being raped..over and over - then I want to see the video of them being executed so I can say it's politically advantageous to deny it was a genocide and laugh at your pain.

I want your mother to cry about it so I can say it's geopolitics...but I want to see the video of her being raped and executed before hand.

call me a patriot. I want to laugh at her death...call me 12clicks

Wow...

1.5 million people died during the genocide, but no, you just think the "genocide" was just a couple of girls getting raped...


Are you acting stupid to piss people off or are you just like that?:helpme

I really simply just don't care. I guess since nothing important gets done (aka setting a timeline for bringing back the troops) they have to busy themselves with debating over this.

Frankly I'm tired of hearing about it, when I went to school in hollywood I swear every fuckin day was armenian genocide day and we all had to goto the auditorium and hear another speech.

and i want you to get fucked by a horse and embed the video on gfy so we can all enjoy it.


anyway, here is a list which can be found in Turkish goverment archives (who nobody wants to dig in because then a lot of evil things armenians did will be known)

It's a list of Turkish people being killed/slaugthered by armenian groups/terrorist or whatever you want to call the cunts.

Date Place and the amounts of killed Turks (men, woman children)

"1910 Muş (10 ölü),
21 Şubat 1914 Kars-Ardahan (30 000 ölü),
1915 Van (44 ölü),
1915 Van (150 ölü),
1915 Bitlis (16 000 ölü),
1915 Muş (80 ölü),
1915 Bitlis-Hizan (113 ölü),
1915 Van (5200 ölü),
Şubat 1915 Haskay (200 ölü),
Şubat 1915 Dutak (3 ölü),
Nisan 1915 Bitlis (29 ölü),
Nisan 1915 Muradiye (10 000 ölü),
Nisan 1915 Van (120 ölü),
Mayıs 1915 Van (20 000 ölü),
Temmuz 1915 Muş-Akçan (19 ölü),
Ağustos 1915 Müküs (126 ölü),
9 Mayıs 1915 Bitlis (40 000 ölü),
9 Mayıs 1915 Bitlis (123 ölü),
15 Ocak 1916 Terme (9 ölü),
1 Nisan 1916 Van-Reşadiye (15 ölü),
Mayıs 1916 Muş (500 ölü),
8 Mayıs 1916 Van-Tatvan (1600 ölü),
8 Mayıs 1916 Bitlis (10 000ölü),
8 Mayıs 1916 Pasinler (2 000 ölü),
8 Mayıs 1916 Tercan (563 ölü),
11 Mayıs 1916 Van (44233 ölü),
11 Mayıs 1916 Malazgirt (20 000 ölü),
11 Mayıs 1916 Bitlis (12 ölü),
22 Mayıs 1916 Van (1000 ölü),
22 Mayıs 1916 Köprüköy-Van (200 ölü),
22 Mayıs 1916 Van (15 000 ölü),
22 Mayıs 1916 Van (8 ölü),
22 Mayıs 1916 Van (8 000 ölü),
22 Mayıs 1916 Van (80 000 ölü),
22 Mayıs 1916 Van (15 000 ölü),
23 Mayıs 1916 Of (5 ölü),
23 Mayıs 1916 Trabzon (2086 ölü),
23 Mayıs 1916 Van (300 ölü),
25 Mayıs 1916 Bayezid (14 000 ölü),
Haziran 1916 Van-Abbasaga (14 ölü),
Haziran 1916 Edremit-Vastan (15 000 ölü),
6 Haziran 1916 Satak-Serir (45 ölü),
6 Haziran 1916 Satak (1150 ölü),
7 Haziran 1916 Müküs-Serhan (121 ölü),
14 Ağustos 1916 Bitlis (311 ölü),
1919 Sarıkamış (9 ölü),
1919 Tiksin-Ağadeve (5 ölü),
1919 Nahçivan (4 000 ölü),
6 Ocak 1919 Zarusat (86 ölü),
21 Ocak 1919 Kilis (2 ölü),
22 Ocak 1919 Antep (1 ölü),
25 Ocak 1919 Kars (9 ölü),
26 Şubat 1919 Adana-Pozantı (4 ölü),
18 Mayıs 1919 Osmaniye (1 ölü),
13 Haziran 1919 Pasinler (3 ölü),
3 Haziran 1919 Iğdır (8 ölü),
Temmuz 1919 Sarıkamış (803 ölü),
Temmuz 1919 Kurudere (8 ölü),
Temmuz 1919 Sarıkamış (695 ölü),
4 Temmuz 1919 Akçakale (180 ölü),
5 Temmuz 1919 Kağızman (4 ölü),
7 temmuz 1919 Kars-Göle (9 ölü),
8 Temmuz 1919 Mescitli (4 ölü),
8 Temmuz 1919 Gülyantepe (10 ölü),
9 Temmuz 1919 Kağızman (6 ölü),
9 Temmuz 1919 Kurudere (8 ölü),
11 Temmuz 1919 Mescitli (20 ölü),
19 Temmuz 1919 Bulaklı (2 ölü),
19 Temmuz 1919 Pasinler (2 ölü),
24 Temmuz 1919 Kars-Kağızman (9 ölü),
Ağustos 1919 Muhtelif köyler (2502 ölü),
15 Ağustos 1919 Erzurum (153 ölü),
15 Ağustos 1919 Erzurum (426 ölü),
Eylül 1919 Allahüekber (3 ölü),
9 Eylül 1919 Ünye (12 ölü),
14 Eylül 1919 Sarıkamış (2 ölü),
Kasım 1919 Adana (4 ölü),
11 Kasım 1919 Kahramanmaraş (2 ölü),
6 Kasım 1919 Ulukışla (7 ölü),
7 Aralık 1919 Adana (4 ölü),
1920 Göle (600 ölü),
1920 Kars (3 bin 945 ölü),
1920 Haramivartan (138 ölü),
1920 Nahçivan (64408 ölü),
1920 Nahçivan (5307 ölü),
Şubat 1920 Kars civari (561 ölü),
1 Şubat 1920 Zarusat (2150 ölü),
2 Şubat 1920 Suregel (1150 ölü),
10 Şubat 1920 Çildir (100 ölü),
28 Şubat 1920 Pozantı (40 ölü),
9 Mart 1920 Zarusat (400 ölü),
9 Mart 1920 Zarusat (120 ölü),
16 Mart 1920 Kağızman (720 ölü),
22 Mart 1920 Suregel-Zarusat (2 000 ölü),
6 Nisan 1920 Gümrü (500 ölü),
28 Nisan 1920 Kars (2 ölü),
5 Mayıs 1920 Kars (1774 ölü),
22 Mayıs 1920 Kars (10 ölü),
2 Temmuz 1920 Kars-Erzurum (408 ölü),
2 Temmuz 1920 Zengebasar (1500 ölü),
27 Temmuz 1920 Erzurum (69 ölü),
Mayıs 1920 Kars-Erzurum (27 ölü),
Agustos 1920 Oltu (650 ölü),
Ağustos 1920 Kars-Erzurum (18 ölü),
15 Ekim 1920 Bayburt (bin 387 ölü),
20 Ekim 1920 Göle (100 ölü),
17 Ekim 1920 Pasinler (9287 ölü),
18 Ekim 1920 Tortum (3700 ölü),
19 Ekim 1920 Erzurum (8439 ölü),
26 Ekim 1920 Kars civarı (10693),
Ekim 1920 Aşkale (889 ölü),
1 Aralık 1920 Kosor (69 ölü),
3 Aralık 1920 Göle (508 ölü),
4 Aralık 1920 Kosor (122 ölü),
4 Aralık 1920 Kars-Zeytun (28 ölü),
4 Aralık 1920 Sarıkamış (1975 ölü),
6 Aralık 1920 Göle (194 ölü),
7 Aralık 1920 Kars-Digor (14620 ölü),
14 Aralık 1920 Sarıkamış (5337 ölü),
29 Kasım 1920 Zarusat (126 ölü),
Aralık 1920 Erivan (192 ölü),
1921 Nahçivan (12 ölü),
1921 Bayburt (580 ölü),
1921 Arpaçay (148 ölü),
1921 Karakilise (6 000 ölü),
1921 Karakilise ( 6 000 ölü),
Şubat 1921 Zenibasar (18 ölü),
21 Kasım 1921 Pasinler (53 ölü),
21 Kasım 1921 Erzurum (1215 ölü),
1918 Hınıs (870 ölü),
1918 Tercan (580 ölü),
Mart 1922 Kahramanmaraş (4 ölü)".


523.955 Turks killed. Also there are another 20 / 30 issues where death numbers are unknown. There numbers where reported by foreign inspectors. You can find al reports in goverment archives, so if you ever want to visit Turkey go look for them.. Dont forget what the armenians did in Azerbeycan with a lot of Turks who lived there.

Here are some pictures from men, woman and children murdered/injured/slaughtered by armenians.



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Cya

I have a great idea, lets kick the fuck out of greece because they fucked Troy long time ago and killed thousands of people, raped tons of woman and children.

How about the Ottomans who took over constantinopel in 1453 (ISTANBUL). Any chance that we can get another genocide since we are talking about the same people who were in this war (Ottomans in 1915)

Bush can't read, unless you post a pic :2 cents:

FREE Iraq ?? who the fuck are you kidding ?

I feel guilty that my ancestors sacked, raped and pillaged England for a few hundred years.

Damn Norwegians are MONSTERS.

j/k that was awesome. Vikings 4l.

lol it was supposed to be the punchline. you know how bush keeps saying free iraq, free the iraqi people, etc. i was playin off that and thought it was obvious but maybe not.

if turkey felt they were victims of a genocide and had anything at all to prove it then america would have already signed off on it since they are allies. obviously turkey knows not to even bring the shit up since its gonna open a can of worms and you are stupid for even trying to do so.

If turkey had ANYTHING coming to them they would have already got it. And if Armenia had NOTHING at all then this would not have gone this far. Things like this dont get this far off just hype. There needs to be some sort of supporting evidence.

The fact that the bush admin admits that they are not acknowledging it because it will fuck its Iraq Freedom efforts should tell you something.

If you wanna post pictures theres a bunch of dead Armenians pics i can dig up for you. But thats not how genocide is decided so STFU

No, Turkey doesnt feel like its victim of a genocide, its a fucking war you stupid cunt and I gave you numbers about how much Turkish people got murdered by armenian cunts since you think only armenians were killed.. The fact that over 500.000 deaths doesnt mean shit to you shows that you are blind just as the fuckers who agreed on this genocide shit.

i never said ONLY armenians were killed. Turkey dosnt feel like a victim nor has any balls to even suggest the thought because they know who the victims really are. Also, your mothers a cunt.


Armenia, being a christian country fully surrounded by muslim countrys NEVER HAD A CHANCE AT WAR!


I suppose posting how many Nazi soldiers died would justify the holocaust as a war?

so many idiots in this thread i feel like Sleazy (after he lost weight)

How about you acknowledge the genocides of today, like say Darfur,

before worrying about some shit 100 years back.

:disgust

what is your agenda ???

you seem pretty gong-ho ....

So ooh wait, Turkey killed people, lets call it a genocide.. armenians killed 500.000 people, lets call it self defence.. shut up please. Turkey doesnt pay attention to this shit because its almost fucking 100 years ago and its something what happened before the republic of Turkey was even born. I'm sure you assholes will cry about a genocide even over 500 years. Shit. What do you think about what happened to Troy by greeks, you think we have a chance to fuck greece ?? I'm sure we can do someting about the vikings too.

Not possible, there are not enough people from darfur living in the usa so nobody will ever talk about it.

Some say that bush doesnt accept the genocide because Turkey is a allie. So why do you think some goverment people DO ACCEPT this shit, because their big friends are mostly armenian cunts who probably love to get fucked in their tiny assholes. Every shit year the same problem with these armenian people, they cry everywhere to get this genocide thing going on.

http://www.bebeshop.com.tr/images/avent7078.jpg

This shit goes back 6000 years

hey man, its a free world and if you feel greece needs to admit something or think what happened will be acknowledged by government then go for it. Do something about it fuck off.

And just for reference, IT WASNT ALWAYS A 100 YEARS AGO! So 100 years ago dosnt justify why turkey dosnt claim shit. As a matter of fact, they cover shit up by NOT ALLOWING TURKISH CITIZENS TO SPEAK OF A GENOCIDE!


keep it coming fucker im enjoying this.

No really, these people are discussing the same shit every year about an empire who lived between 1299 – 1922... Man..

racist a bit?

whatever dude your a racist idiot behind a fake nick and thats that.

So what do you call the 500.000 Turkish people ( man, woman and children) killed by hairy armenian stinky terrorist/scumbags/assholes/gays ??

Self defence ?

heeeeeeere comes racist!

Why a racist, because i stand up for Turkey?? Anyone who doesnt accept the funny genocide bullshit is a racist? Oh and everyone who accepts the genocide gets a nobel price or what ? :1orglaugh

Ghehe, i knew you couldnt find an answer :)

lol idiot

Well you are a living fact of what i just said so..

Where is your answer about the 500.000 Turks getting killed??

Israel seems to be doing just fine, lol. I'm just fucking with you bro.

I agree it should be acknowledged, most the people on this board are fucking idiots. But it's tough to lay blame as to those who should acknowledge it etc. Jews don't hate germans, they hate nazi's or anyone who's anti-semetic. Are Turks the Ottomans? By default, yes. But truly It's a fine line. You've got to remember one thing about the jews and that's that we never had a home up until 1948. We were everyones bitch for 5000+ years having our land taken from us in biblical times, spanish inquisition, you name it - and that shit gets old. Hence why jews are sensitive about anti-semetism and the holocaust. I totally understand where you guys are at and hope they approve the recognition of your genocide, because genocide is genocide regardless of when it happened/occured and should be respected via history for your ancestors and your children.

:thumbsup

And we openly admit it too. We are proud of being the monsters we were, not sure how cool that is, but hey - it is!

Different times though, raping and pillaging was a fashion back then.

Hey Yap,

Are you Turkish by any chance?

Cause the way you are defending that stupid mother fucker of a country that won't admit to what they did almost 100 years ago means you must be, or you are married to one... Come on, Step up. Are you Turkish?

youre saying i killed 500k turks? idiot

Shit, really nobody of the armenian propaganda party can give me an answer about how to call the 500.000 Turks being murdered by armenians /? You all going to act like your blind and continue crying ?

I am sure you have received more checks by armenian owned company in this business then any other people.. So watch what you say about armenians you faggot...