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Old 10-11-2007, 08:44 AM   #1
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Major dating programs tested!!! [results inside + screenshots]

I?ve seen a few posts on GFY where people send traffic to a bunch of affiliate programs and try to measure results. I promote dating 100% so I thought I would do the same thing for all the major dating sponsors.

[** First important to note, while i have other accounts with these programs that i typically use, these were all "new accounts", or new campaigns, so they couldn't be tainted in any way. Also this test is no indication of how well a program will do for you. In some cases i may be hurting feelings here, as almost all of these program owners/reps are friends of mine. But i felt it necessary for someone to finally do one independent non-bias test that was fair & left emotional attachments at the door & stuck strictly to business. I'm quite sure that each program will work that much harder with me for now on to make sure my next stats report in a month looks even better. **]

The stats and findings are as accurate as I could make them. I used one traffic source and sent the exact amount of traffic to each program. I filtered off a unique to each program one at a time so that the traffic they received was the same across the board. Each site received 9000 uniques as measured by my tracking pixel. Programs all measure uniques differently so you will see some differences in the screen shots, but most of the programs are what I would expect to see.

The traffic source was pure SEO. The keywords don?t matter because all the sites got the same traffic. And I won't be releasing that info to just anyone obviously for competitions sake.

I tested the following sites, Fling.com, Camazon.com, Sexsearch.com, Amatuermatch.com, Adultfriendfinder.com, XXXblackbook.com, and IWantu.com. Here are my findings from last place to First Place.

6th Place

IwantU.com

9K uniques and zero joins. Their tracking only reported 1249 uniques out of the 9000 sent. I don't know whats up I've done well there before on per sign up.




5th Place

SexSearch.com

With only 2 sales coming in this was a really big surprise for me. I?m not saying they don?t convert in general but with this traffic they were very weak. Their reporting of uniques fell into an acceptable range.

(*Note i have another pre-paid campaign currently running with sexsearch that happens to be doing much better which has been being built up over time, that i am quite happy with*)




4th Place

Adultfriendfinder.com

Some sales came in but I can?t make heads or tails out of their stats. They were one of the lower earners though. Their unique reporting was almost perfect though, which is refreshing to see. I hope to see next months stats looking quite a bit better over there, i have faith in their ability to convert.




3rd Place (tied)

Amatuermatch.com from Dating Gold

With 9 paid sales they come in tied for third place. They converted the traffic steady from start to finish. Their unique counting within an acceptable range.




3rd Place (tied)

Fling.com from Hugetraffic.com

This is the biggest surprise I had. With all the hype on the boards about Fling.com I thought for sure they would be in 1st Place. They did convert pretty well with 9 paid sales and tied for 3rd place with Amatuermatch.com. Their unique reporting was a little less then I expected.




2nd Place

XXXblackbook.com from Loadedcash.com

Another Surprise for me. Its new so maybe its not saturated yet. With 11 Sales it takes 2nd place. The sales came in a little slower then the other top 3 sites which i have found to be normal with loadedcash sites (snowball effect). I only ran this site because its from the Camazon guys and it?s new. Uniques were what I would expect to see.

[see pic below, both #2 & #1 are in the same screencap]

1st Place

Camazon.com from Loadedcash.com

No Surprise to me here. I?ve been sending to Camazon.com for over a year now (and AAC for 2 years before that) and have always really converted well. With 14 sales they take the #1 spot & that makes them Party Goat Approved!




So anyways here you have a fair, non skewed, non jaded, fair look at how a very small brick of my seo traffic evenly distributed faired for me. For the period of 9/18/2007 to 10/9/2007.

If your program was not included this month & you would like to be included next month. Please hit me up on my icq provided in my signature. Also if you would like to signup under any of these programs, once again ICQ me (440-887), not only will you be signing up under me (which makes you cool hahaha) I will give you pointers & tips from 10+ years experience to help you along the way 24-7.

Thanks for checking out pr0's first secret independent dating program assessment.
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:47 AM   #2
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sig spot secured...


now i can start reading... ;-)
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:47 AM   #3
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:50 AM   #4
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:52 AM   #5
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:53 AM   #6
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Amazing report man! I'll hit you up these days for some tips ;)

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Old 10-11-2007, 08:54 AM   #7
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very interesting results. what always gets me is how do all these programs count the uniques? has anybody ever sent 5k to a sponsor and seen exactly these 5k?
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:57 AM   #8
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Very nice work, and thanks for posting.
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:58 AM   #9
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:58 AM   #10
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:01 AM   #11
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:03 AM   #12
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Well camazon is not yet overexposed so it doesnt suprise me.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:06 AM   #13
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Very interesting.

I'd like to see how many of those free signups convert to paid by the end of the month.

You'll have to do a follow up.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:07 AM   #14
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Nice info, thanks. I send to many dating sites and those results are extremely close to how I rank those sponsors in terms of conversion.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:08 AM   #15
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Great idea, i love seeing head to head comparisons like this.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:09 AM   #16
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good results man
how can we get into the mix?
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:10 AM   #17
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you should have thrown horneymatch in there from pimpmansion

im doing hella good with them
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:17 AM   #18
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gr8 info...........
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:17 AM   #19
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Nice info. I have had very good results with Fling but their unique tracking is way off as you mentioned. I will have to give Camazon a try.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:39 AM   #20
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pr0, try and test Adult Date Link as well. I'm pretty sure we will be right up there in your ratings. Let me know if you need anything. Thanks!

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Old 10-11-2007, 09:44 AM   #21
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Nice info.

As for earnings, are all ther other programs except AFF using pay per signup? Judging by the AFF stats, you're on revshare there, and AFF retains very well so you could very well earn much more money in the end there (although I'm surprised they didn't convert better for you as well).
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:50 AM   #22
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good results man
how can we get into the mix?
Leave liondollars?
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Nice work... and nice even handed presentation.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:58 AM   #25
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9K uniques and zero joins. Their tracking only reported 1249 uniques out of the 9000 sent. I don't know whats up I've done well there before on per sign up.
Hey pr0,

In our legend on the stats page, you will see the Clicks column shows join-page uniques. If you click the campaign to view detailed stats you'll see at the bottom 'overall uniques'. I expect there you would see your 9000 show up.

For your stats though, I'm quite surprised. However free to paid is one thing, but when your unique to free is WAY below our affiliates' average I just think you are sending a traffic type that doesn't work for our site

That, or there may be some issues (as we know you have special/custom ways to send traffic/signups) that we need to fix. Hit me up whenever you have time if you want me to take a look at that
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now i can start reading... ;-)
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:10 AM   #28
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Ok i am getting a ton of ICQ's, & I'm here & more than happy to help you out. But to save some time, since tons of people are asking for my refcode....we can skip one part of the conversation for the sake of time saving.

loaded cash

http://www.loadedcash.com/?aid=19254

dating gold

http://www.datinggold.com/index.php?aid=6554

sexsearch

http://affiliate.sexsearch.com/?ref=3178

fling

http://www.hugetraffic.com/referral.htm?wm_id=default

adult friend finder

http://adultfriendfinder.com/go/g892085-brk


all awesome programs & should you happen to signup under me, & let me know, consider me a tip/info machine for the rest of your life

i usually NEVER post my refcodes, but I'm making an exception this time....to me its not about the $, its about sharing the info & wealth

i'm a very happy guy & I had a lot of people in my life help me along the way......I'm just giving back

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Old 10-11-2007, 10:11 AM   #29
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Well Done. I really enjoyed that. Thanks Pr0
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very nice stats.. I wish more people did this with sponsors
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Hey pr0,

In our legend on the stats page, you will see the Clicks column shows join-page uniques. If you click the campaign to view detailed stats you'll see at the bottom 'overall uniques'. I expect there you would see your 9000 show up.

For your stats though, I'm quite surprised. However free to paid is one thing, but when your unique to free is WAY below our affiliates' average I just think you are sending a traffic type that doesn't work for our site

That, or there may be some issues (as we know you have special/custom ways to send traffic/signups) that we need to fix. Hit me up whenever you have time if you want me to take a look at that
Varius i have sent you other traffic that worked amazingly well. And i happen to love your program. Like i said, this test was not indicative of "normal" for me. It was straight seo & spread out evenly. It could have been any # of possibilities as to why it didn't convert. Better yet, it could still convert...I've had many trailing signups with you guys. Like most dating programs, building a base of free profiles is the key to success & a longer period of time is needed to really gauge a program.

Keep this in mind guys, I have converted 1:10 (paid:free) with Iwantu on a fairly consistent basis in the past.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:16 AM   #32
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Hello pr0,

Well done!

You are welcome to test Ashley Madison affiliate program as well.
We are offering up to 50% life time revenue from all sales via our in house program.

Cheers,
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:18 AM   #33
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Varius i have sent you other traffic that worked amazingly well. And i happen to love your program. Like i said, this test was not indicative of "normal" for me. It was straight seo & spread out evenly. It could have been any # of possibilities as to why it didn't convert. Better yet, it could still convert...I've had many trailing signups with you guys. Like most dating programs, building a base of free profiles is the key to success & a longer period of time is needed to really gauge a program.

Keep this in mind guys, I have converted 1:10 (paid:free) with Iwantu on a fairly consistent basis in the past.
Hey pr0,

My post wasn't meant as anything to your results but I do think there may be something not working right in your setup (assuming you were using that method with this campaign) because if you only had 30 free show from 9000 uniques that's like 1 in 300 free conversion - compared to our overall average of affiliates for free conversion being around 10-11% - HUGE difference.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:19 AM   #34
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For your stats though, I'm quite surprised. However free to paid is one thing, but when your unique to free is WAY below our affiliates' average I just think you are sending a traffic type that doesn't work for our site
These kind of remarks keep me amazing.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:21 AM   #35
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wow man thanks alot, some great advices in there, keep up the great work!
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Nice.... I always like Fling and 3rd place is pretty good.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:24 AM   #37
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IMpressive.

I think if ya were to promote some free trial sites ya would have faired better.
I am not familier with cam traffic though.
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Well done!

You are welcome to test Ashley Madison affiliate program as well.
We are offering up to 50% life time revenue from all sales via our in house program.

Cheers,

Up to 50%???? What is the current payout??? Is it a 50/50 like every other program? Do you have geo ads? Geo text links?

Post a screen cap of some stats.
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Ashley Madison welcomes adult affiliates. We have been in Commission Junction for 3 months and have already reached an EPC of $26.00

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Interesting results for sure

How come you didn't promote Dating Gold's $75 pps?
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Hi Senator,

Our current in house commission is up to 50% from all sales for life time. I am actually thinking to offer all of you guys 50% flat if you sign up this and next week.

I will need to ask for permission to an affiliate to show a screen shot of their stats. However, I can tell you that our conversion rate is from 10 -15% from sign up (free subscription) to real customer (someone buying credits to chat).

We don't have geo ads but can provide you with any other marketing material you might need.

You will not be dissapointed.

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pr0 has done very well with us so to see a free conversion of 3000% less than average that signals me there might be something up, normally traffic source OR technical issues. In any case I'll talk with him about it on ICQ, no need to bring it into this thread.
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Well done!

You are welcome to test Ashley Madison affiliate program as well.
We are offering up to 50% life time revenue from all sales via our in house program.

Cheers,
Shirley, feel free to contact me privately, this thread wasn't meant to be hijacked
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Hi Pr0

I got excited when I saw you guys talking about dating programs. I am sorry, I didn't mean to hijack this thread.

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Old 10-11-2007, 10:49 AM   #45
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pr0 is a pimp... nice stats and great information!
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:54 AM   #46
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pr0 - Let's talk again next week


You like this new tour I made for you?? =)
http://tour.sexsearchcom.com/externa...MOCODE/KEYWORD
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:54 AM   #47
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nice, thanks

is it saturday yet??
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:56 AM   #48
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Up to 50%???? What is the current payout??? Is it a 50/50 like every other program? Do you have geo ads? Geo text links?

Post a screen cap of some stats.




Promote SexSearch, earn 100% revshare.... until Nov/07
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:57 AM   #49
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i think that if it was on our pay per order payout, we would have by far been the best converting for you. it was $85 per join last month, and now its $95 per join this month. so you would have made $510 on half the traffic that you sent to your number one. but give rev share a fair shake and see what it looks like in a few months with the rebills coming in.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:59 AM   #50
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pr0 you're a sex machine! Kinda shocked about iwantu....
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