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10-10-2007, 02:25 PM

no interesting in putting together a pool of money to retain attorneys to really savage these guys?
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10-10-2007, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by dig420

no interesting in putting together a pool of money to retain attorneys to really savage these guys?

Sorry, I meant to comment and say that is a good idea as it would be unfair to hope a biller would take them on. I would give what I could as long as the books are transparent.

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10-10-2007, 02:31 PM

Good stuff Rand, much appreciated.

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10-10-2007, 02:34 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"they intend to get to the bottom of it"

yeah... uhm.... i'm sure this all came as quite a shock to them... especially when people are bidding on URLs like "pay.ccbill.com" as keywords and zango reps are personally reviewing them and manually approving them before the clicks start.

its their business model. its how they work. its what they do. the entire point of their program is that they pop windows over peoples sites with more ads. their system allows the user to target specific sites (URLS) and keywords to trigger ads.

i love this business. "oh... you've busted us fucking you and 1000s of people over? wow. well thanks, we'll definately look into that"
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10-10-2007, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by After Shock Media

Sorry, I meant to comment and say that is a good idea as it would be unfair to hope a biller would take them on. I would give what I could as long as the books are transparent.

wouldn't take much... 10 program owners at 10k each or 20 at 5k, any billing company could easily get such a coalition together. That should be enough to get any url hijacking method declared illegal. I don't see how it could stand up in court. Their only chance to fight it is to assert that surfers voluntarily sign up for this process and please correct me if I'm wrong, but the Gator case and some others have shown that this is a pretty weak defense.
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10-10-2007, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by Rand

Once we saw these discussions, we immediately contacted Zango.

Originally posted by Rand

Zango has assured us that it is investigating the situation and that it intends to get to the bottom of it.

so the people who stole from you have assured you that they will get to the bottom of this... djeez
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10-10-2007, 04:39 PM

yes, epoch is about as smart as a box of rocks.

proof is that they believe zango.

the very reason most of their big accounts have been jumping ship for merchant accounts... 3rd party processing is a dying business.

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10-10-2007, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by dig420

wouldn't take much... 10 program owners at 10k each or 20 at 5k, any billing company could easily get such a coalition together. That should be enough to get any url hijacking method declared illegal. I don't see how it could stand up in court. Their only chance to fight it is to assert that surfers voluntarily sign up for this process and please correct me if I'm wrong, but the Gator case and some others have shown that this is a pretty weak defense.

the Gator case is key. Even though it was settled and didnt go to court it still is more then enough to show that anyone who takes them on would have one hell of a chance of winning. Not only would you win but I bet who ever sues them would win $$$ more then they spent in legal fees.

How nice would it be to get Zango's books opened up and see who has been spending money with them. I would bet AFF has spent millions with them.

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10-10-2007, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by dig420

wouldn't take much... 10 program owners at 10k each or 20 at 5k, any billing company could easily get such a coalition together. That should be enough to get any url hijacking method declared illegal. I don't see how it could stand up in court. Their only chance to fight it is to assert that surfers voluntarily sign up for this process and please correct me if I'm wrong, but the Gator case and some others have shown that this is a pretty weak defense.

I agree. Not to mention the processing companies that are hurt all the way down the line would have it in their best interest to fight this. I think it's possible if a few major players stepped up and offered to get the ball rolling.
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10-10-2007, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by Quick Buck

yes, epoch is about as smart as a box of rocks.

proof is that they believe zango.

the very reason most of their big accounts have been jumping ship for merchant accounts... 3rd party processing is a dying business.

Must suck ass to have everyone and their dog picking on your business model. I wonder what other rocks we will turn over and find your "rogue affiliates" hard at work.
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10-10-2007, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by will76

seekmo appears to be them and hotbar is what no comes up on the bottom of the zango pop up. It use to say zango, now it says hotbar.

Oh wait I think I read in the FTC documents that Hotbar was exempt from some stuff....so that's why they are now using that name.

Gotta find that document again damn it.

Here it is:
http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/05231...isionorder.pdf

See section: I

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10-10-2007, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by will76

I would bet AFF has spent millions with them.

And are spending more as we speak.
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10-10-2007, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by Quick Buck

yes, epoch is about as smart as a box of rocks.

proof is that they believe zango.

the very reason most of their big accounts have been jumping ship for merchant accounts... 3rd party processing is a dying business.

Your 'affiliate' was also the subject of board posts. What makes you think he was talking about you? too funny
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10-10-2007, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by will76

the Gator case is key. Even though it was settled and didnt go to court it still is more then enough to show that anyone who takes them on would have one hell of a chance of winning. Not only would you win but I bet who ever sues them would win $$$ more then they spent in legal fees.

How nice would it be to get Zango's books opened up and see who has been spending money with them. I would bet AFF has spent millions with them.

All it would take is one email to all their billing accts from Rand, CCbill or Jettis and the coffers would be overflowing. I'll go on record as the first paying recruit.
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10-10-2007, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by Quickdraw

Your 'affiliate' was also the subject of board posts. What makes you think he was talking about you? too funny

He wasn't talking about me because he didn't really say those things.

Our team have ALSO been in close contact with Zango and lets just say that about 25% of what you read here on the message boards is accurate. The other 75% is hype or distorted.

The truth will come out very soon.

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