Here is a breakdown of how much of our traffic has spyware! (Stats included)

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  • V_RocKs
    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
    • Nov 2003
    • 32447
    #51
    50 Zango mutherfuckers!

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      • DaddyHalbucks
        A freakin' legend!
        • Feb 2004
        • 18975
        #52
        Wow, alot of traffic has spyware and it seems to be increasing.

        Not good.

        Boner Money

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          • After Shock Media
            It's coming look busy
            • Mar 2001
            • 35299
            #53
            Them damn Zango banners are everywhere too. Specially on free games sites and they have some very alluring banner ads for game sites, not quite pornographic but deffinatly better chubby spank it material than I had as a kid and my mom had Vogue in the house.

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              • Quickdraw
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2004
                • 1717
                #54
                Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                Wow, alot of traffic has spyware and it seems to be increasing.

                Not good.

                Yet you promote zango to other webmasters.

                Not good.

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                  • Andy Servers4Less
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 922
                    #55
                    wow, very interesting stats
                    Andy Servers4Less
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                      • Brad Mitchell
                        Confirmed User
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 9813
                        #56
                        Those are insane numbers. This is a lot to process.

                        Brad
                        President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
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                          • Quickdraw
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 1717
                            #57
                            Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                            Wow, alot of traffic has spyware and it seems to be increasing.

                            Not good.

                            I cannot believe you actually had the nerve to post links on spywarefreaks to iDownload.com(quickbuck) products? Yeah, everyone needs even more exploits on their system.

                            VirushunterPDF, registrydefender / winfixer, pcvirusless is another rogue and part of the cws group

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                              • HS-Trixxxia
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2002
                                • 2946
                                #58
                                Quickdraw can you hit me up please?

                                Thanks

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                                  • Zebra
                                    Banned from Kimmy's couch
                                    • Oct 2001
                                    • 5091
                                    #59
                                    I checked our logs over a 72 hour period and these are the results I got:

                                    zango 0.9%
                                    seekmo 0.25%
                                    hbtools 0.05%
                                    funweb 2%
                                    megaupload 1.7%

                                    Not exactly sure what megauplod is, but when I visit their site I see they offer the MegaToolbar which sets off a red flag.
                                    This is just from the raw logs. I am going to try to filter it down to just the main entry pages and see if the numers change.
                                    Old School

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                                      • Shap
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • May 2001
                                        • 8313
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by Zebra
                                        I checked our logs over a 72 hour period and these are the results I got:

                                        zango 0.9%
                                        seekmo 0.25%
                                        hbtools 0.05%
                                        funweb 2%
                                        megaupload 1.7%

                                        Not exactly sure what megauplod is, but when I visit their site I see they offer the MegaToolbar which sets off a red flag.
                                        This is just from the raw logs. I am going to try to filter it down to just the main entry pages and see if the numers change.
                                        DAMN IT. I hadn't checked megaupload

                                        I'm seeing 1% with megaupload

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                                          • pornguy
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 62912
                                            #61
                                            OK really stupid question. How do I check the traffic for these?
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                                              • Zebra
                                                Banned from Kimmy's couch
                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 5091
                                                #62
                                                I just stripped down my logs and only ran results for our top 3 traffic entry pages and the numbers were about 0.4% overall higher than what I listed above. Fuckers.
                                                Old School

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                                                  • Zebra
                                                    Banned from Kimmy's couch
                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                    • 5091
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by pornguy
                                                    OK really stupid question. How do I check the traffic for these?
                                                    You can search your server logs.
                                                    Old School

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                                                      • pornguy
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 62912
                                                        #64
                                                        Thanks Zebra
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                                                          • fuzebox
                                                            making it rain
                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                            • 22351
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                                            Wow, alot of traffic has spyware and it seems to be increasing.

                                                            Not good.

                                                            Fuck off and die!

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                                                              • Drake
                                                                Hello world!
                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                • 12508
                                                                #66
                                                                I had no idea it was as high as 20%.

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                                                                  • pornguy
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                    • 62912
                                                                    #67
                                                                    This is what we have so far.

                                                                    funweb 2.85 %
                                                                    megaupload 0.62 %
                                                                    Zango 0.51 %
                                                                    Seekmo 0.39 %
                                                                    peoplepal 0.28 %
                                                                    hbtools 0.22 %
                                                                    hotbar 0.20 %


                                                                    IM not happy at all.
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                                                                      • Quickdraw
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                        • 1717
                                                                        #68
                                                                        You can bet that a large portion of these guys that have any of the zango family installed, also have a variation of the zlob or codec exploit as well since Zango is popping windows to places like adultdvds1.com/teen.html (visit at your own risk)

                                                                        For every person that has the zlob installed, you are losing them in your organic search engine listings as well. Surfers with these codecs get their search engine results redirected to a multitude of PPC engines.

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                                                                          • Pleasurepays
                                                                            BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                            • 11913
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by QuaShe
                                                                            We put up a HTaccess like 2 months ago and if someone with Zango enters our mainpage it shows a bar on top of the page saying that spyware was detected etc. Maybe its to small to have an impact but we are very aware of the problems.
                                                                            everyone should be reminded of the fact that its not "spyware" according to the FTC. so, trying to hurt their business by mischaracterizing what the software is, opens you up to civil liability.

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                                                                              • HS-Trixxxia
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                • 2946
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by Quickdraw
                                                                                Surfers with these codecs get their search engine results redirected to a multitude of PPC engines.
                                                                                **my post disappeared**
                                                                                but wanted to add that it's a multitude of PPC engines...OR...fake TGPS/MGPS that redirect the traffic for trades of legit traffic and then ultimately resold to a traffic broker.

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                                                                                  • Pornwolf
                                                                                    Drunk and Unruly
                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                    • 22712
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    This thread is depressing.
                                                                                    I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                                                                    Webair, bitches.

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                                                                                      • HS-Trixxxia
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                                        • 2946
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                                                        This thread is depressing.
                                                                                        I think a lot of us have surpassed the depressed part - the good thing is that finally others are taking notice. In th past 2+ years, I'd love to know how much all these companies have taken from the adult industry. I say 2+ years cuz it's around the time that the US got rid of gambling online that they replaced that income with going after adult agressively.

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                                                                                          • pornguy
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                                            • 62912
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by HS-Trixxxia
                                                                                            I think a lot of us have surpassed the depressed part - the good thing is that finally others are taking notice. In th past 2+ years, I'd love to know how much all these companies have taken from the adult industry. I say 2+ years cuz it's around the time that the US got rid of gambling online that they replaced that income with going after adult agressively.
                                                                                            Sadly we will most likely find out, that this company is owned by one of our very own high rollers.
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                                                                                              • rowan
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                                • 17393
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by Shap
                                                                                                he just ran
                                                                                                grep -ci "seekmo" /path/to/your-access.log


                                                                                                on each of the different spyware. funweb, zango, etc
                                                                                                I think this could be further refined, because it's counting raw hits rather than uniques. A surfer who goes through as many FHGs as he can find and grabs 100 videos/500 images will push up the total even though his spyware 'value' is the same as a surfer who views a single hotlinked image on a forum.

                                                                                                Something like this would probably work better:

                                                                                                first, count the total number of unique IPs in your log:
                                                                                                cat /path/to/access_log | awk '{print $1}' | sort -u | wc -l

                                                                                                then for each spyware name find the number of unique IPs that reference it:
                                                                                                grep -ci "seekmo" /path/to/access_log | awk '{print $1}' | sort -u | wc -l

                                                                                                This won't work so well for logs spanning several days because the concept of a "unique" IP gets a bit blurry with different IPs being assigned as people reconnect but it will probably still be more accurate than just counting raws.

                                                                                                BTW the above assumes that the user-agent is actually logged... AFAIK the default Apache setup doesn't do this.

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                                                                                                  • rowan
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                                                    • 17393
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by rowan
                                                                                                    then for each spyware name find the number of unique IPs that reference it:
                                                                                                    grep -ci "seekmo" /path/to/access_log | awk '{print $1}' | sort -u | wc -l
                                                                                                    Oops, drop the "-c"

                                                                                                    grep -i "seekmo" /path/to/access_log | awk '{print $1}' | sort -u | wc -l

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                                                                                                      • rowan
                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                                                        • 17393
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Here are my stats based on unique IPs as per the above suggestion

                                                                                                        Total measured: 196,030 uniques

                                                                                                        seekmo: 870 (0.44%)
                                                                                                        zango: 878 (0.45%)
                                                                                                        hotbar: 259 (0.13%)
                                                                                                        funweb: 4518 (2.32%)
                                                                                                        megaupload: 1204 (0.61%)
                                                                                                        peoplepal: 462 (0.24%)
                                                                                                        hbtools: 418 (0.21%)

                                                                                                        Does funweb do those smiley banners that laugh (both visibly and audibly) when you mouseover them?

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                                                                                                          • peterk
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Aug 2007
                                                                                                            • 3529
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Those are insane numbers.
                                                                                                            Bogat mama ala cu loturi de trafic

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                                                                                                              • 1off
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Jul 2007
                                                                                                                • 674
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Funweb sure gets around.

                                                                                                                I assume most of you guys are checking your logs where the traffic is from a variety of sources like tgp's etc..

                                                                                                                Anyone have a strictly SE driven site they can get stats on?

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                                                                                                                  • Corleone
                                                                                                                    C.R.E.A.M
                                                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                    • 15262
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Shap
                                                                                                                    lol. Yeah apparently i am. It's even worse on our members traffic.

                                                                                                                    Since Midnight here is the percentage of file requests that had the following companies in the user agent info.
                                                                                                                    funweb 14%
                                                                                                                    Zango 2.6%
                                                                                                                    seeko 1.1%
                                                                                                                    hbtools 0.2%
                                                                                                                    hotbar 1%

                                                                                                                    Right now the test is on file requests so it may be skewed in the members area if someone with it downloads the entire site. Still 19% is insane.
                                                                                                                    insane numbers. .thanks for sharing.

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                                                                                                                      • rowan
                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                        • 17393
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        One other thing I should mention, it's also invalid to sum the total of the individual results (eg hotbar+zango+... = 19%) because some people will have more than one installed.

                                                                                                                        Example:

                                                                                                                        "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; FunWebProducts; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; HbTools 4.8.7; Zango 10.0.275.0; Seekmo 10.0.341.0)"

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                                                                                                                          • rowan
                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                            • 17393
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            I had a play with some simple scripting to pull data from area enclosed in brackets, I then removed obvious strings such as "Windows 98" or "MSIE 6.0."

                                                                                                                            There may still be some common ones remaining, but if I wasn't sure I left it in.

                                                                                                                            This is the list, ranked by count: (bottom 0.1% / <200 excluded)

                                                                                                                            9713 InfoPath.1
                                                                                                                            6045 FunWebProducts
                                                                                                                            5002 InfoPath.2
                                                                                                                            3946 IEMB3
                                                                                                                            2224 YPC 3.2.0
                                                                                                                            1375 Avant Browser
                                                                                                                            896 MSN 9.0
                                                                                                                            881 MSN 9.1
                                                                                                                            875 yplus 5.1.04b
                                                                                                                            851 MSNmen-us
                                                                                                                            803 FDM
                                                                                                                            751 Google Wireless Transcoder
                                                                                                                            654 NaviWoo1.1
                                                                                                                            644 TOB 6.05
                                                                                                                            632 DigExt
                                                                                                                            594 Maxthon
                                                                                                                            587 PeoplePal 3.0
                                                                                                                            545 Orange 7.4
                                                                                                                            522 MSNcOTH
                                                                                                                            509 Seekmo 10.0.341.0
                                                                                                                            448 SIMBAR Enabled
                                                                                                                            419 ZangoToolbar 4.8.3
                                                                                                                            402 WinuE v6
                                                                                                                            402 WOW64
                                                                                                                            382 Sky Broadband
                                                                                                                            370 Comcast Install 1.0
                                                                                                                            362 MEGAUPLOAD 2.0
                                                                                                                            359 J2ME/MIDP
                                                                                                                            356 Q312461
                                                                                                                            355 MSNbMSFT
                                                                                                                            349 MRA 4.10
                                                                                                                            345 ssr
                                                                                                                            342 tr
                                                                                                                            335 SpamBlockerUtility 4.8.4
                                                                                                                            330 MEGAUPLOAD 1.0
                                                                                                                            322 Arcor 5.006
                                                                                                                            299 YComp 5.0.0.0
                                                                                                                            289 MSNbMSNI
                                                                                                                            288 MyIE2
                                                                                                                            285 MSNbVZ02
                                                                                                                            284 Embedded Web Browser from: http://bsalsa.com/
                                                                                                                            283 yplus 5.3.04b
                                                                                                                            282 Stream Plugin
                                                                                                                            277 T-Online IE7
                                                                                                                            261 SIMBAR=0
                                                                                                                            254 MSNbQ002
                                                                                                                            248 Neostrada TP 6.1
                                                                                                                            229 Zango 10.0.341.0
                                                                                                                            212 iebar
                                                                                                                            212 DT
                                                                                                                            211 America Online Browser 1.1
                                                                                                                            210 Comcast
                                                                                                                            207 MSNc00
                                                                                                                            207 AtHome033
                                                                                                                            203 SeekmoToolbar 4.8.4
                                                                                                                            202 RRHSO_BLD1
                                                                                                                            202 MSDigitalLocker

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                                                                                                                              • RP Fade
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                • 3343
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Seems like 3-5&#37; is the total average?
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                                                                                                                                  • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                                                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                    • 13449
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by 1off
                                                                                                                                    Funweb sure gets around.

                                                                                                                                    I assume most of you guys are checking your logs where the traffic is from a variety of sources like tgp's etc..

                                                                                                                                    Anyone have a strictly SE driven site they can get stats on?
                                                                                                                                    I doubt there will be much if any of these users finding your sites via search engine.....simply because these programs will redirect user searches at google or yahoo or wherever to a paid search engine where the spyware owners get paid for the clicks.
                                                                                                                                    sig too big

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                                                                                                                                      • rowan
                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                        • 17393
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Bump so an important thread doesn't die.

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                                                                                                                                          • scoreman
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                            • 1491
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            thanks again for posting this shap.

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                                                                                                                                              • u-Bob
                                                                                                                                                there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                • 33063
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                                                                                                                                Wow, alot of traffic has spyware and it seems to be increasing.

                                                                                                                                                Not good.

                                                                                                                                                you're an idiot

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                                                                                                                                                  • Theo
                                                                                                                                                    HAL 9000
                                                                                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                    • 34515
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    funwebproducts is big, but if i recall well even when you uninstall it your browser still carries the description of it. I'm assuming a large &#37; of those are not active ones. Anyone can confirm this?

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                                                                                                                                                      • Speedy26
                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                        • 950
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        can someone explain a little more on what happens if a surfer has funweb or other spyware installed?

                                                                                                                                                        by my logs, FunWebProducts is in 8% of my server request, does that mean they are downloading my content but never have the option of joining my site due to redirects?
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                                                                                                                                                          • Ray@TastyDollars
                                                                                                                                                            www.TastyDollars.com
                                                                                                                                                            • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                            • 6797
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Its fucking insane how a "would you hit it" threads get more veiws and replies than a thread like this.

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                                                                                                                                                              • Mutt
                                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                • 34431
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                fucking depressing
                                                                                                                                                                I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                                                                                                                                  • SCORE Ralph
                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                    • 2090
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Shap
                                                                                                                                                                    Hey Zeus. I found the same thing yesterday. It's a shame it's 2 years old
                                                                                                                                                                    Id be interested in something like this. Anyone working or has any other script similar to this? Im surprised no one has taken this open source code and adapted it.
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                                                                                                                                                                      • StarkReality
                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                        • 4444
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Interesting stats, and that's "only" spyware and not counting all the guys infected with affiliate code changing trojans...

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                                                                                                                                                                          • Quickdraw
                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                            • 1717
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by StarkReality
                                                                                                                                                                            Interesting stats, and that's "only" spyware and not counting all the guys infected with affiliate code changing trojans...
                                                                                                                                                                            right, the affiliate changing trojan I have on a test PC doesn't identify itself.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • DamageX
                                                                                                                                                                                Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                                                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                • 14293
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Quickdraw
                                                                                                                                                                                right, the affiliate changing trojan I have on a test PC doesn't identify itself.
                                                                                                                                                                                Of course not.
                                                                                                                                                                                Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                                                                                                                If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Quickdraw
                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 1717
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                                                                                                                    Of course not.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Just trying to reinforce StarkReality's point.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • will76
                                                                                                                                                                                        Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 18037
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                                                                                                                        everyone should be reminded of the fact that its not "spyware" according to the FTC. so, trying to hurt their business by mischaracterizing what the software is, opens you up to civil liability.
                                                                                                                                                                                        When half the fucking anti virus software programs out there call it " spyware" and even Zango admitted that they have had (and likely still do) affiliates who installed their shit without people knowing on million of pcs.... then it is what it is... spyware.

                                                                                                                                                                                        They can call it adware till they are blue in the face but when it is abused by their own partners (making it spyware) and most people see it as spyware, then good luck sueing me for calling it spyware.

                                                                                                                                                                                        I think i will trust with the anti virus companies call it and not what the shaddy company wants you to think.
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • hjnet
                                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 3815
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Bump for a biz thread.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • will76
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 18037
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Ray@TastyDollars
                                                                                                                                                                                                Its fucking insane how a "would you hit it" threads get more veiws and replies than a thread like this.
                                                                                                                                                                                                because 90% of the people here dont make money so they dont care about stuff like this and looking at porn is more important to them.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • DamageX
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 14293
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by will76
                                                                                                                                                                                                    because 90% of the people here dont make money so they dont care about stuff like this and looking at porn is more important to them.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    But, but... Isn't it on GFY "where the industry meets"?
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                                                                                                                                    If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • GonZo
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 3180
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by will76
                                                                                                                                                                                                        When half the fucking anti virus software programs out there call it " spyware" and even Zango admitted that they have had (and likely still do) affiliates who installed their shit without people knowing on million of pcs.... then it is what it is... spyware.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        They can call it adware till they are blue in the face but when it is abused by their own partners (making it spyware) and most people see it as spyware, then good luck sueing me for calling it spyware.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I think i will trust with the anti virus companies call it and not what the shaddy company wants you to think.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Hes trying to give you some solid advice. . .
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Assclown Bob Rice wants to BANG your credit card!
                                                                                                                                                                                                        "I am putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."
                                                                                                                                                                                                        All the information above is my personal opinion.

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