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Old 09-17-2002, 03:04 AM   #51
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well i dont no i think it was a well orchestrated plan on the peoples part to plan it on a day when was suppose to be normal it was a terable thing i no but i feel all the things the usa have done over the years is comin bak to haunt them and theve stabbed somemany people in the dark over the years who knows whos after them


i so suck at being political as i dont no what is even in this conversation and tryed to get involved i think i will shut up


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Old 09-17-2002, 06:01 AM   #52
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You have posted a lot of smoke and mirrors that would be quite convincing for someone predisposed to believe in conspiracies, but, imho, not by anyone with an open mind. I read them - rather I skimmed them (by the way, the newsmax links have been discovered and terminated - they are coming up 404 for me). and I found hints, innuendo, and outright fantasies.

Which conspiracy do you believe, by the way? There were two distinct ones outlined in your material. One is that the U.S. government did the attack itself. The other is that our intelligence failures allowed the attacks to occur.

I have read over many such lists of "references" for theories on Pearl Harbor, the Bay of Pigs, school desegregation and the civil rights movement, the assinations of JFK, MLK, RFK, the moon landings, Kent State, Watergate, the attempted assination of Reagan, the death of Princess Di, the "Bill Clinton is a Moscow-Train Communist" school, gawdamitey, I gotta quit - I've read far too much of this shit myself. I think there is a formula more patent than a Tom Clancy novel or Rocky Movie for these things. Warnings from other countries, special U.S. agents in jail in foreign countries, obscure aids to famous people who know everything, secret documents ...

All of the sites that you sent me to would have been far better reading back in the day when I smoked pot. As it stands, mind altered only by my last cup of coffee for the day - it's shit, and not very good shit either. Some of it is serious reporting, most of it is paranoid delusions. I personally think it means NOTHING.
I am on the same boat as you. I too, have read all of the same conspiracy theories that you have read. Any time there is an event of note, the conspiracy theorists go to work and publish their books, articles, papers, etc. I read most of their theories. I enjoy good fiction, unfortunately some of it is quite bad fiction, but even good fiction, still is fiction.
Well I would like to stay and play on the board today, but I have to go out of town. My back is pretty much back to normal, my mom went to stay with my brother for a few days, so I have some business to catch up on. I don't fly anymore (no not because of 9/11), but because of my back. I cannot sit for long periods of time, so I travel in my motor home. Usually I have a driver but not today. I can pull over if I have too, and I have too, and stretch my self. I hit all of the rest stops and walk around a bit. It takes forever for me to get somewhere.
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Old 09-17-2002, 06:11 AM   #53
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I sometimes wodner who the biggest nutballs are...those who believe everything they're told or those who believe nothing they're told....
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Old 09-17-2002, 06:13 AM   #54
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Look buddy, I agree with this statement about 90%. As do most of the people here. Just because we watch the news, doesn't mean we believe everything it says. I criticize almost everything I hear on the news. Watching the news simply means we're looking for some facts, and then we'll base our opinion, maybe.

In most things I don't have solid 100% opinions, simply because I don't know all angles of the story. I love hearing various scenarios of situations that are backed up by some form of common sense and rational thinking. JFK, I've heard some crazy theories. Some I simply threw away, others I'm still thinking over.

If you have your little theories, fine. Good for you. You're thinking outside of the box. But there is also some point in time where you need to listen to what national outlets are telling you and at least weight what they're telling you. I'm not saying believe it, just weight it. Think about the possibilities. Think about everything you know, and form your own theories.

From what I've seen, you seem to believe almost every report that you come across that says something negative about the media and government. Why? That's crazy! You're bitching about all of us being corporate sheep, yet you're on the "fanatic sheep" team.

I'm starting to wonder how you can possibly live at peace, knowing every conspiracy that you do. Enjoy life for once man, it's fun.
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Old 09-17-2002, 06:14 AM   #55
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I HAVE seen an interview with someone who saw the plane hit the building, but I'm sure the conspiracy theorists will claim it's a government lackey spreading the lie.

But, if you don't believe him, why not ask some of the people who were on the plane? Oh yeah...because they died when the plane hit the Pentagon.

Retards!
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Old 09-17-2002, 06:35 AM   #56
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And that's the Greatness of America - We will never know the truth about anything....
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Old 09-17-2002, 06:42 AM   #57
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He's probably hiding under his bed with his aluminum foil hat on so the government can't read his mind.
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Old 09-17-2002, 06:44 AM   #58
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Stop arguing if its from the internet it must be true
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Old 09-17-2002, 07:59 AM   #59
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Warning!!!! Warning!!!!

It is a known fact that in order for aluminum foil to be effective for blocking the secret microwave transmissions, you must first spread coffee grounds in all 4 corners of the rooms. This information was provided by the noted NYPD Detective Andy Sipowitz in an episode of "NYPD Blue." I am suprised that this top secret information made it past the sensors, but

1) It was on television, so it must be true, and

2) The information is out there - you just have know where to look for it.
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Old 09-17-2002, 08:26 AM   #60
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Old 09-17-2002, 11:05 AM   #61
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One problem I see with Dewey's arguments is that he thinks fighter aircraft should be flying at Mach 3+ over populated areas - a major metropolitan centre, no less. That's dangerous for all the people on the ground.
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