I seriously believe there a way to distance ethical adult companies

[seeric]

from the non ethical ones in the consumer fashion.

if you want nothing to do with fuckers fucking the consumers, there are many of us who feel the same.

we can still keep adult alive in the consumers eyes. unite.

[GrouchyAdmin]

Right. You going to start a grass roots campaign to force them to .mobi or something?

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I think Aeirk ya might wanna just get over yourself...

So far you have tackled content piracy, held hidden meetings, divided some people from others in the process and now ya wanna work on Ethical Adult Sites and business practices...

Yup I would about say you have definatly lost it.

I used to be like you dude. Ya won't make a fucking difference crying about content thieves and pointing out companies that that engage in "Unethical" business.

All it does is alienate you, and make people hate you and in the long run come back to bite you in the ass as doors close.

[GrouchyAdmin]

Waited to long to edit.

Let me elaborate: Those doing dirty, underhanded things are those who are stealing/scamming/otherwise obtaining more cash from the surfer, and they'll pass an extra $5 to the person who sends them a sale by comparison to an "ethical" company.

I think you know precisely where this is headed. Welcome to the industry.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

I think Aeirk ya might wanna just get over yourself...

So far you have tackled content piracy, held hidden meetings, divided some people from others in the process and now ya wanna work on Ethical Adult Sites and business practices...

Yup I would about say you have definatly lost it.

I used to be like you dude. Ya won't make a fucking difference crying about content thieves and pointing out companies that that engage in "Unethical" business.

All it does is alienate you, and make people hate you and in the long run come back to bite you in the ass as doors close.

do you really want to start with me? wow. and to think i thought you were my friend. wow. do you really need to dog your friends now to get respect. damn mark. wow.

ok, if thats what you want. stand by.........brb

[seeric]

damn alienq. what the fuck? do you really know how much you pissed me off right now? feels like a loyal doggy bit me. wow.

you sure?

[Pornwolf]

Dude, you are better off focusing on piracy.

Seriously.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I mean I think I spent about my first two years on this board and about 3 years on another board pissed off about piracy, Spyware, yes even Cross sales, upsell's and fuck the grandma hidden sales.

I attacked companies that knowingly supported thieves, spammers and everything. These days I just don't give a shit anymore, it never will make a difference no matter what.

I do as I am told and keep secret's well and in the long run it has paid off to just know my place settle in and mind my own shit.

Ya might want to consider this, being you got a great job over at Shanes World, why endanger that? How long ya think ya got till someone comes along and just punches the fucking leg's out from under the chair that has more to offer?

How long till your reign is no longer impressing people while being damaged enough to outright drop. Don't become damaged goods dude. All you are doing is like i said above...

Alienating people and opportunities you might have in the future.

[seeric]

If you can't see my motives, shit, email me a addy so I can send you a prospectus. fuck, anyone can see what i'm up to. lol.

there's two speeds playa. go hard and go home. lol. which do you think i'm on?

damn you blew it again. dude. stop trying to prove you're cool. the right people like you, fuck the rest of em, but shit, trying to ninja star the people who have always had you back, wow. like the rabid dog that bites his owners hand, right before the vet puts him down.

woahhhhhh.

[seeric]

If you can't see my motives, shit, email me a addy so I can send you a prospectus. fuck, anyone can see what i'm up to. lol.

there's two speeds playa. go hard and go home. lol. which do you think i'm on?

damn you blew it again. dude. stop trying to prove you're cool. the right people like you, fuck the rest of em, but shit, trying to ninja star the people who have always had you back, wow. like the rabid dog that bites his owners hand, right before the vet puts him down.

woahhhhhh.

[seeric]

If you can't see my motives, shit, email me a addy so I can send you a prospectus. fuck, anyone can see what i'm up to. lol.

there's two speeds playa. go hard and go home. lol. which do you think i'm on?

damn you blew it again. dude. stop trying to prove you're cool. the right people like you, fuck the rest of em, but shit, trying to ninja star the people who have always had you back, wow. like the rabid dog that bites his owners hand, right before the vet puts him down.

woahhhhhh.

[seeric]

If you can't see my motives, shit, email me a addy so I can send you a prospectus. fuck, anyone can see what i'm up to. lol.

there's two speeds playa. go hard and go home. lol. which do you think i'm on?

damn you blew it again. dude. stop trying to prove you're cool. the right people like you, fuck the rest of em, but shit, trying to ninja star the people who have always had you back, wow. like the rabid dog that bites his owners hand, right before the vet puts him down.

woahhhhhh.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

It's not about being "Cool" anymore with me...
Its about making money, other than that I really do not give a mother fuck anymore. I been called everything in the book, and soon you will know what being fucked really is.
Ya want everyone to hate you. Go for it.

I am telling you this shit as a friend.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

It's not about being "Cool" anymore with me...
Its about making money, other than that I really do not give a mother fuck anymore. I been called everything in the book, and soon you will know what being fucked really is.
Ya want everyone to hate you. Go for it.

I am telling you this shit as a friend.

dude you sorely have me mistaken for a bro club member. had you paid attention along the way you could have seen that i have bucked many a thing against the BRO standards. i am me, not anything, anyone has deemed, ever!

[seeric]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

It's not about being "Cool" anymore with me...
Its about making money, other than that I really do not give a mother fuck anymore. I been called everything in the book, and soon you will know what being fucked really is.
Ya want everyone to hate you. Go for it.

I am telling you this shit as a friend.

so are you willing to say that you would fuck other people here to make profit?


i think that is what you are saying.

:err or

[GrouchyAdmin]

Well, this thread went from a "Fight the good fight for what I think is right even if I'm a bit off base" to "Fight with somebody who disagrees." quite quickly.

Now we just need to add global politics to meld with the personal ones.

[Profits of Doom]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

I think Aeirk ya might wanna just get over yourself...

So far you have tackled content piracy, held hidden meetings, divided some people from others in the process and now ya wanna work on Ethical Adult Sites and business practices...

Yup I would about say you have definatly lost it.

I used to be like you dude. Ya won't make a fucking difference crying about content thieves and pointing out companies that that engage in "Unethical" business.

All it does is alienate you, and make people hate you and in the long run come back to bite you in the ass as doors close.

I have been spending a ton of time lately on various forums that provide links to illegally download content for a project I'm working on, and I will say beyond a shadow of a doubt that one is directly related to the other. I'm not saying that because I'm speculating, I'm saying that because that is what I have been told by countless members of these forums.

You are going to get a percentage of people that will never download content from torrents or file sharing sites because they are against theft. Unfortunately, that is a very small percentage.

You are also going to get a percentage that is computer illiterate and will join adult sites strictly because they are overwhelmed by trying to figure out how to get content for free, no matter how easy it may be. This was a large percentage but it is rapidly shrinking.

Then you will get the percentage that don't have a pot to piss in, and can't afford to join a porn site. You can lump them in with the people that have money but will NEVER pay for porn. They are a lost cause.

Finally, you have a percentage that used to buy memberships to every porn site under the sun, and were an affiliate's/program owner's dream. Somewhere along the line they got fucked, either from a prechecked cross sell to their debit card that caused their other checks to bounce, a member's area that didn't update once during their membership, a customer service issue that went ignored, etc. They are the one's that we didn't have to lose, but once they took it in the ass repeatedly they used that as a justification to steal porn from that point forward. I honestly believe this is the largest percentage that matters.

So yes, you take care of the members you have, and they won't go looking for that free lunch. You piss them off, and you have a problem...

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

I mean I think I spent about my first two years on this board and about 3 years on another board pissed off about piracy, Spyware, yes even Cross sales, upsell's and fuck the grandma hidden sales.

I attacked companies that knowingly supported thieves, spammers and everything. These days I just don't give a shit anymore, it never will make a difference no matter what.

I do as I am told and keep secret's well and in the long run it has paid off to just know my place settle in and mind my own shit.

Ya might want to consider this, being you got a great job over at Shanes World, why endanger that? How long ya think ya got till someone comes along and just punches the fucking leg's out from under the chair that has more to offer?

How long till your reign is no longer impressing people while being damaged enough to outright drop. Don't become damaged goods dude. All you are doing is like i said above...

Alienating people and opportunities you might have in the future.

I'm not sure if playing devil's advocate is your new board persona, but this is surprising coming from somoene like you who has always spoken out.

First, I fail to see how he's doing anything to jeopardize his future. He works for a company that produces high quality exclusive content. Companies that steal that content steal from his company. Companies that play games with Zango and shit steal from his company. Companies that piss off surfers so much that they don't bother touching an adult site again are hurting his company. I can't fathom one thing that he has spoken out about being of a differing opinion of the company he works for.

And if his reign ends because of speaking out, so be it. There are people in this world who would rather work for people they respect than for those who they don't. Would you work for a white supremecy group if it paid well? What about for the NRA if you were heavily against guns? There are some people who would rather not work in this business than for a company that fucks people over.

Finally, sitting back and "knowing your role" is what got this industry into the position it's in. It's what got them the enormous processing fees. It's what got them scrutiny from the federal government. It's what is getting them ratios that make baby Jesus cry. So sitting back hasn't exactly worked over the years, maybe it's time for people who plan to be around awhile to start speaking up.

[sicone]

I got your back