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Old 10-03-2007, 02:41 PM   #1
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More 2257 info - responses from attorneys

As those of you who follow 2257 related news are probably already aware, XBIZ has posted several articles over the last week or so concerning the FBI's inspection policies, recent inspections and related items.

A few people who read the article I posted yesterday have commented to me that I should have included something to the effect that Chuck Joyner's statements concerning the FBI's inspection policies don't really amount much, despite him being the head of the FBI's inspection team, because the FBI could change its mind/policy, Joyner could be replaced at any time, etc.

To address those concerns, I wrote a follow up piece today in which three prominent adult industry attorneys - Jeffrey Douglas, Larry Walters and Reed Lee - respond to Joyner's comments.

The article with Joyner's comments can be found here, and the attorney responses are here.

Hopefully, the follow up piece provides some context within which you can weigh the significance (or lack thereof) of Joyner's comments for yourself.

Naturally, regardless of what any government official or third-party attorney has to say on the subject, all producers should consult with their own counsel concerning 2257, and how to acheive and maintain compliance.

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Old 10-03-2007, 02:41 PM   #2
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What is a 2257?
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:58 PM   #3
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:18 PM   #4
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He just came in, like a few days ago ...

Let him take the heat for the others ...
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:24 PM   #5
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Yeah, I felt a little bad about being harsh but he should know a little more about the biz before jumping in.

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He just came in, like a few days ago ...

Let him take the heat for the others ...
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:29 PM   #6
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don't play with me please. i am just new not stupid.

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Old 10-03-2007, 03:32 PM   #7
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:04 PM   #8
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He just came in, like a few days ago ...

Let him take the heat for the others ...
I agree
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:20 PM   #9
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As those of you who follow 2257 related news are probably already aware, XBIZ has posted several articles over the last week or so concerning the FBI's inspection policies, recent inspections and related items.

A few people who read the article I posted yesterday have commented to me that I should have included something to the effect that Chuck Joyner's statements concerning the FBI's inspection policies don't really amount much, despite him being the head of the FBI's inspection team, because the FBI could change its mind/policy, Joyner could be replaced at any time, etc.

To address those concerns, I wrote a follow up piece today in which three prominent adult industry attorneys - Jeffrey Douglas, Larry Walters and Reed Lee - respond to Joyner's comments.

The article with Joyner's comments can be found here, and the attorney responses are here.

Hopefully, the follow up piece provides some context within which you can weigh the significance (or lack thereof) of Joyner's comments for yourself.

Naturally, regardless of what any government official or third-party attorney has to say on the subject, all producers should consult with their own counsel concerning 2257, and how to acheive and maintain compliance.

- Q.
I find this quote to be interesting...

Walters said it is also important to note that the ?position of the Justice Department is that secondary producers have always been required to maintain records.?

?From the Justice Department?s perspective, the Adam Walsh Act just made it clear that the regulations apply to secondary producers,? Walters said. ?Their official position is that secondary producers have always been required to maintain the records.?

What do you make of this?
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:29 PM   #10
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Old 10-03-2007, 07:41 PM   #11
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It's inbetween a 2256 and a 2258
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:24 PM   #12
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:05 PM   #13
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if he isnt in the US why should he know anything about 2257?
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:10 PM   #14
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I find this quote to be interesting...

Walters said it is also important to note that the “position of the Justice Department is that secondary producers have always been required to maintain records.”

“From the Justice Department’s perspective, the Adam Walsh Act just made it clear that the regulations apply to secondary producers,” Walters said. “Their official position is that secondary producers have always been required to maintain the records.”

What do you make of this?
Hello, Lawrence Walters is an attorney. We used him a few years back, but found we were educating HIM in regards to how the adult internet industry worked. He was very interested in getting on t.v. if that tells you anything. Nice guy, but typical lawyer. For instance he advised everyone that shemale content was illegal. I would put his secondary producer comment right alongside his shemale advice.
Most lawyers are like chicken little. It benefits them to have the sky falling because it keeps us scared and paying them. That being said...please do keep an attorney on retainer. You may need him when something REAL happens.
But until then just remember that Deluxe Pass pulled all their shemale content 4 years ago following Mr. Walters advice. Bad move.
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