I'm glad this has been resolved. And thanks for posting those neked pics of yourself Stuart!

Well the popup was resolved it seems, but none of the other stuff yet.

What other stuff?

The leaks I mentioned, and the third biller Eurodebit option. Maybe using a third biller was explained and I missed it?

The traffic leaks on the tour I mentioned that give signups to the house, and the third biller Eurodebit option which gives no credit to webmasters.

I am not sure they pay on the eurodebit option. They have an option to track it though as they do pay on the mail ins etc.

I am sure they don't pay on it. Nor do they pay on the other traffic leaks on the tour which they have known about for well over a year.

No big deal, I'm over it. Just never thought I'd have to add ATK to that list.

I'm looking into the 3rd biller situation, as you can imagine we can't just flip a switch and suddenly have things changed and/or setup to be paying affiliates immediately. But we'll get a solution as soon as we can.

I'm still not sure what the other traffic leaks are either.

But rest assured we are working on completely revamping the entire program... sites, cash program... the works.

It's just not an over night job.

I can imagine it happening just about as fast as the third biller was added. Hard to believe that not one person over there gave a thought about how to pay affiliates on this biller. Incidentally, how long has this biller been in place?

They were brought up in this thread, and were very specific.
This thread is over 30 days old and apparently the only thing fixed was the ccbill popup. Your words sound sincere, and they very well may be, but the inaction is speaking much louder, at least to me.

The traffic leaks were promised to be fixed over a year ago and never were. I let it slide.... But adding another biller and thereby 'milking' sales from affiliates is just wrong. Putting the leaks and the extra biller together just put a bad taste in my mouth. If all this was done before you guys got there, fine, but it doesn't make it taste any better.

If you want to discuss it, hit me up and talk about it like a man - I'm available just about 24/7, and I've never gotten an email from you, ICQ msg, phone call - nothing. GFY is more/less a circus, and anyone with 1/2 a brain knows that, yet you decide to bump and old thread with a VERY misleading title.

Contact me as I suggested and I'll be more than happy to assist you and discuss this matter... but you bump this thread again and you'll just piss me off.

email '[email protected]'
ICQ 54403110
phone 941-870-2880

He was being sarcastic guys... its almost guaranteed that they click back (at least the first time), especially when they click through from an image thinking it was going to show a large one or a video clip sample.

What is it with you and insisting that people talk about it "like a man"? How about you talk about it like a man and just reply here? I mean, you guys have nothing to hide, so what's the problem? He, and others, have posted pertinent concerns, I'm pretty sure addressing public things in public will make you look a lot better than appearing to want to sweep things under the rug by asking people to contact you in private.

We definitely don't want anything swept under the rug. I'd rather hear about these things than not, so that I know what to fix.

We would just rather that people message us and tell us and not make a big deal about it... I'm sure every program has the same wish when such things hit gfy :winkwink:

Anyway, there was more fixed than just the popup, and more stuff is being fixed. That eurobiller doesn't seem to have an affiliate option that we can take advantage of so we're looking at making changes but obviously don't want to lose the option entirely.

At the same time, we're all stretched very thin at a lot of angles but rest assured that we are working at it. If some people simply can't wait to see those changes, we'll understand. But we'd rather ask that you be patient.

See, that wasn't so hard, was it? :winkwink:

bump like a man

Being condescending is a nice touch. As far as pissing you off... With a post like that, how can you not expect a response?

You know that any other sponsor that would have added a third biller that doesn't give credit to the affiliates would have been roasted on GFY long ago. Why should you be any different? It's a valid issue.

I have been in contact with ATK about the first of these issues, nothing was done. The other issues were brought up in this thread, so there is no need for contact.

In case you missed it, I said this just a few posts ago, but some responses sparked more responses...

Ok tough guy. :321GFY

Oh no, we're gonna piss off people with the leaky tours that we were sending traffic to. How dare we make them mad, they might not accept our traffic any longer :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Where oh where will we ever send our traffic to monetize it now that we've pissed ATK off? I can't think of anyone else who will pay us for it :helpme

This belongs on the front page

I concur. :thumbsup

We're in the process of changing that billing option it's just taken longer than planned. Once it's done, that option will be removed from any join page. Until then you can wait patiently or keep bumping this thread claiming we shave.

I'm not avoiding or sweeping anything under the rug. I just don't want to give any credence to the trolls. It's my right to ask people to contact me personally to discuss business, and if they choose not to do so then so be it. Don't suggest that by my deciding I'd rather deal with people one-on-one as opposed to a shady GFY thread somehow we/I'm guilty of trying to cover something up.

Another week and the Euro Debit is still on the join pages.

Again I ask, how long have you guys had the Euro Debit option on the join page?
Why are legit questions getting ignored?
When did you add the Privacy Software link on the page?

You guys mentioned that some of the other issues were already taken care of. Which issues were those?(besides the popup)

I still see hardcoded INHOUSE affiliate id's on your tours, the eurodebit option, and now you are even peddling software from your join pages. Must be pretty lucrative to exclude half the world from your affiliate traffic.

Why do you keep wanting me to contact you? I contacted you guys well over a year ago now about the leaks on your tours, and nothing was done, so I really don't see how contacting you personally will change anything noted above.

Try and belittle me and call me a troll all you want, but the fact remains that your tours are stealing from affiliates. You calling names doesn't change that one bit.

Actually the EuroDebit should only be appearing if you visit the site directly. If you visit via an affiliate link, it should not appear. Also, if you don't have your ccbill/paycom ID entered into the ATKCash database.... and you use your own link code, it will still appear as our system won't know to use a specific processor.

I just went through an affiliate link(ccbill/paycom id's are in the atk database) to a general tour on atkgalleria.
I then clicked the link that says "WANT TO SEE EVEN MORE OF OUR AMAZING MODELS? CLICK HERE TO SEE OUR FREE EXTENDED TOUR!", and the join page contains the eurodebit option.

And your Help and Contact links still have hardcoded in house id's.

Can you give me your link, or your id, or... well, anything that I can possibly use to trouble shoot this?
We've gone through 30+ different affiliate's links and never saw the eurodebit option.

Here you go

I think that url went to a FHG you guys took down and now it forwards to the front page.

nevermind the fhg part, doesn't apply here.

Ok, so... I tried your link and do not see the Eurodebit option. So I'm not sure how to fix the problem that I can't replicate. I'm not sure what to tell you but I just had a few other people check and they don't see it either.
Maybe some gfy'ers seeing this post can try this link and tell me if it's there? I would truly like to fix this.

Also, the help and contact links go to static html pages... not to any in house id's. And CCBill and Paycom both set their own cookies so going to a static html page will not lose your sale.

Are there help and contact links that I am not seeing that have id's attached to them?

Did you click this link at the top of the page you were sent to?
I then clicked the link that says "WANT TO SEE EVEN MORE OF OUR AMAZING MODELS? CLICK HERE TO SEE OUR FREE EXTENDED TOUR!", and the join page contains the eurodebit option.

Yes the help and contact pages may be static, but clicking "JOIN" on those pages is where the problem is.

double..

Alright, I was clicking the join now link.... I see that one is in fact showing it, and is even going to the wrong tour.

Give me a few minutes and we'll get that resolved.

The EuroDebit option should now be removed. Sorry about that, I simply couldn't find where you were seeing it so I couldn't fix it. But it should be taken care of now.

Anything else?

why did he need to start this thread for this issues to be resolved?
after all the points brought in here gunner still says this is a shady thread? lol fix your issues god damn.....
and this is one hell of a big banner for privacy eraser you got there on the join page, i would be pissed if i sent traffic.

I'm sorry I'm trying to fix these things. If you are still so upset, don't promote us.

Yes, there are other things that I have mentioned several times in this thread and with emails over a year ago.

affiliate id 1024345 is hardcoded into the join links from several pages already noted in this thread.

I guess you guys don't want to tell us how long the EURODEBIT option has been in place, so I guess I won't ask again:winkwink:

How old is the privacy software banner? Is it a test?

The eurodebit and privacy banner were put there as options for direct traffic that wasn't sent by affiliates. I don't know why they were still showing up... I didn't code it nor was I around when they were added. I am not the decision maker much less privy as to why the banner was added or how well it did.

But as far as I can tell they were only on the one join form out of the 7 different join forms we have. While still a traffic leak, it wasn't huge.

And it's now being rectified. Neither the processor nor the banner should appear now. I'm sorry it wasn't done sooner but I'm doing what I can.

I'll spend the day looking for "1024345" and fix all of those links that I can find.

As I said, if you're still upset about it, don't promote us. I can't do any more than my best.

yeah that "shady thread" comment kinda confused me

maybe I need to post the other shit I found and have been sitting on while they work on whatever

........

the thread is shady huh? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

shall I post more findings that have yet to be mentioned here?

Well, you could post it, or you could continue to sit on them while others lose sales, or you could contact me and let me know so I can fix it.

I'd prefer that you don't hold a grudge against mistakes or wrong things said, but that's just because I want what's best for ATK and it's affiliates.

You're fully entitled to do as you please.

don't get this other page.

The Eurodebit option is on all of your extended tours. So that would make 4 out 7.
http://exotics.atkexotics.com/01/joi...36&cc=&ib=&pc=
http://hairy.amkingdom.com/01/join.p...36&cc=&ib=&pc=
http://preview.atkpremium.com/01/joi...n=& model_id=
....
Nice touch yet again:disgust

Those join forms will be fixed as well once the search is done through the tours for that "1024345" id... which should be any minute now.

That's a traffic leak not shaving.

Here is the page("1024345") in question, since you seem to have missed it. This is the page that all of your classic tours link to for support, help, and contact links that are the top few links on those tours--

support.amkingdom.com/join/index.php
All those join links are hardcoded to an in house ID.

Anyway, good luck with your stuff. I'm done here, if you are.

this thread is quite the read

Ah, I had checked all the tours... the support site isn't even handled by me. It's customer support's area. But I'm having them get on it and fix that. :thumbsup

And thank you, best of luck to you as well and I do thank you... as I said, I'd rather be told about the problems than just hated for them when I don't even know they exist.

Just wait until their whole system is "rewritten from the ground up" by Stuartd. Trust me, it will be a disaster. Kind of like the system he worked on for more than a year at GTS and had to be completely scrapped as useless.

Mark my words on this, should be fun to watch.

I cant believe this fuckin idiot gunner just ICQ me and threatened me

fuckin pussy

I guess somebody had better bring this bitch up to speed

fuckin coward this piece of shit just pissed me off to the highest point after I had been working and putting together a list of shit for this to work on..... this fuckin ass clown ICQ me with this bullshit


.... if you are still promoting this shit... then you would definitely have to be one stupid mofo



GUNNER ‎(11:01 PM):
you have some fucking big balls man
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:01 PM):
what?
GUNNER ‎(11:01 PM):
GFY thread
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:01 PM):
ok ..what exactly are you talking about?
GUNNER ‎(11:02 PM):
the GFY thread with your handle
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=136
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:03 PM):
so why did you say I have some balls?
what are you talking about
GUNNER ‎(11:03 PM):
You started a thread, I asked you to come to me in person
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:03 PM):
because I questioned your calling my thread shady?
GUNNER ‎(11:03 PM):
you have the balls to ask where we're located and not mention your "findings"
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:03 PM):
What the hell are you talking about
GUNNER ‎(11:04 PM):
don't play fucking stupid
your thread IS shady and so are you
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:04 PM):
I said I knew stuart was working on all the issues
im shady?
GUNNER ‎(11:04 PM):
You did???
If I missed that I apologize... all I see is you slamming us yet again
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:04 PM):
No... howabout you are the one who is shady
I didnt slam sgit
GUNNER ‎(11:04 PM):
"maybe I need to post the other shit I found and have been sitting on while they work on whatever"
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:04 PM):
you slammed me when you called my thread shady
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:05 PM):
I hadnt posted in that thread in forever
GUNNER ‎(11:05 PM):
and you just couldn't leave it alone
like a little schoolkid you had to run out and comment
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:05 PM):
and out of no where you call the thread shady thus calling me shady like you just did
GUNNER ‎(11:05 PM):
I take that back... you're not shady, you're a coward
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:06 PM):
You know what gunner.... eat shit... you are shady... your program got shaving and cheating webmasters
GUNNER ‎(11:06 PM):
or a shady coward - meet me in person and talk shit about my program to my face...doubt you'll do that
GO FUCK YOURSELF
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:06 PM):
and instead of you trying to fix your bullshit .... you attack me
get a fuckin clue
GUNNER ‎(11:06 PM):
Our issues are being resolved. We've said it 100x
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:06 PM):
what im in florida
GUNNER ‎(11:06 PM):
you just can't seem to let it rest
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:06 PM):
sarasota to be exact
GUNNER ‎(11:06 PM):
Good, I'll be down there in a few months
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:06 PM):
talk shit to your face???
GUNNER ‎(11:06 PM):
10,000 you don't come meet me
GUNNER ‎(11:07 PM):
dollars that is
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:07 PM):
dude I will fucking beat you and anyone else with you senseless
seriously
GUNNER ‎(11:07 PM):
HAHAHA
right tough guy
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:07 PM):
dont fuckin threaten me
you ICQ me in the middle of the night with this bullshit
are you drunk or high?
GUNNER ‎(11:07 PM):
I asked you before and you agreed to contact me
did you???
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:08 PM):
and I did dumnass
read the thread
GUNNER ‎(11:08 PM):
no, you go back to your stupid thread and bump away with bullshit
about your "findings"
PUSSYSERVER ‎(11:08 PM):
I didnt say shit else in the thread
I didnt list the findings and was going ta wait until stuart was done with all the other issues to see if it was fixed then message you
but now....... FUCK YOU

your "edited" ICQ logs don't mean shit, try again

you lieing piece of shit

you know I didnt edit anything

you are a scaming fucking loser and the more you talk the more I realize that all these issues were intentional


you are a fucking thief

you are going to sit here and call my log edited... when you know its not

tells me exactly what kind of person you are... a lieing cheat

who has more then likely cheated webmasters out of 100s and 100s of thousands in profits


how the fuck can you sleep at night


You are one fucked up dude

... how have you gone under the radar for so long??

I should obviously behave more professionally like you, posting ICQ logs, which everyone knows are about as useful as tits on a bull.

You don't like me, you're gonna kick my ass, etc.

We agree to disagree... anything else I can help you with?

Hey Pussyserver, just as a side note, Gunner's a really, really big guy. Probably best to forget about the kicking his ass angle.