Breaking News! 9/11 Offical inquiry finds Government version Flawed! - GoFuckYourself.com

Massivecock · 09-14-2002, 05:17 PM

The report, compiled by an independent inquiry into the September 11th, World Trade Centre attack, warns the American public that the government?s official version of events does not stand up to scrutiny.

A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand, after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners, involved in the September 11th tragedy, had no control over their aircraft.

In a detailed press communiqué the inquiry stated: ?The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation carried out against the USA, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be used as guided missiles and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles to their pre-selected targets.?

The report seriously questions whether or not the suspect hijackers, supposedly trained on Cessna light aircraft, could have located a target dead-on 200 miles from take off point. It further throws into doubt their ability to master the intricacies of the instrument flight rules (IFR) in the 45 minutes from take off to the point of impact. Colonel de Grand said that it would be impossible for novices to have taken control of the four aircraft and orchestrated such a terrible act requiring military precision of the highest order.

A member of the inquiry team, a US Air Force officer who flew over 100 sorties during the Vietnam war, told the press conference: ?Those birds (commercial airliners) either had a crack fighter pilot in the left seat, or they were being manoeuvred by remote control.?

In evidence given to the enquiry, Captain Kent Hill (retd.) of the US Air Force, and friend of Chic Burlingame, the pilot of the plane that crashed into the Pentagon, stated that the US had on several occasions flown an unmanned aircraft, similar in size to a Boeing 737, across the Pacific from Edwards Air Force base in California to South Australia. According to Hill it had flown on a pre programmed flight path under the control of a pilot in an outside station.

Hill also quoted Bob Ayling, former British Airways boss, in an interview given to the London Economist on September 20th, 2001. Ayling admitted that it was now possible to control an aircraft in flight from either the ground or in the air. This was confirmed by expert witnesses at the inquiry who testified that airliners could be controlled by electro-magnetic pulse or radio frequency instrumentation from command and control platforms based either in the air or at ground level.

All members of the inquiry team agreed that even if guns were held to their heads none of them would fly a plane into a building. Their reaction would be to ditch the plane into a river or a field, thereby safeguarding the lives of those on the ground.

A further question raised by the inquiry was why none of the pilots concerned had alerted ground control. It stated that all pilots are trained to punch a four-digit code into the flight control?s transponder to warn ground control crews of a hijacking - but this did not happen.

During the press conference Captain Hill maintained that the four airliners must have been choreographed by an Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS). This system can engage several aircraft simultaneously by knocking out their on-board flight controls. He said that all the evidence points to the fact that the pilots and their crews had not taken any evasive action to resist the supposed hijackers. They had not attempted any sudden changes in flight path or nose-dive procedures - which led him to believe that they had no control over their aircraft.

THE NEWS, in an attempt to further substantiate the potential veracity of these findings, spoke to an Algarve-based airline pilot, who has more than 20 years of experience in flying passenger planes, to seek his views. Captain Colin McHattie, currently flying with Cathay Pacific, agreed with the independent commission?s findings. However, he explained that while it is possible to fly a plane from the ground, the installation of the necessary equipment is a time-consuming process, and needs extensive planning. THE NEWS will publish a full interview with Captain McHattie in next week?s edition.

The FBI also came in for criticism for the various pieces of contradictory evidence it has published regarding the suspects. Questions are now being asked as to how incorrect information was given out regarding the ID cards of the suspects, and the seat numbers they supposedly occupied after boarding the flights.

None of the suspects named by the FBI appeared on any of the official passenger lists. A further point was how the FBI had managed to retrieve the passport of one of the suspects amid the molten and twisted remains of thousands of tons of steel and rubble brought about by the Twin Towers collapse.

Dr. Paul Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury, and presently Senior Research Fellow at Stamford University, has lent his support to the independent inquiry findings. He also claims that Osama Bin Laden was not responsible for September 11th. The doctor has challenged President Bush to make public the so-called ?irrefutable evidence? incriminating Bin Laden.

Colonel Donn de Grand said that if President Bush is lying it would not be the first time that the American people had been mislead by its government. He cited the recently published official government archives describing President Roosevelt?s duplicity in deceiving Americans about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour, which triggered the US entry into WWll.

He also highlighted the role of the country?s government in misleading its citizens in respect of the Bay of Pigs invasion in Cuba, and the events that brought about the Spanish American war in the late 19th, century. ?Whilst considering who committed this act of war on September 11th,? he said, ?albeit Russia, China, an Islamic country or NATO, we must also consider that the enemy may well be within the gates.

?Not for the first time the American public might be being mislead, by those with ulterior motives, into lending its support to a war, this time against Iraq, that has no bearing whatsoever on the interests of the people of the USA.?

jimmyf · 09-14-2002, 05:21 PM

I did not read all of that shit.... Man you need to get some help... NOW.... You dam sure are not playing with a deck of 52.

Massivecock · 09-14-2002, 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
I did not read all of that shit.... Man you need to get some help... NOW.... You dam sure are not playing with a deck of 52.

Why do i need help?

Because i am cutting and pasting the offical results of the
congressional investigations into 9/11?

Are you feeling ok?

Let me get this straight:
- You didn't read it all
- I need some help now.
- You dont explain why I need help
- You dont explain what kind of help you are talking about.
- You say Im not playing with of 52.
+ I dont know how you can come to any of these conclusions
without even reading what I posted.
+ According to you it doesnt matter what I post. The mere fact that I posted, warrants me needing help of some sort and denotes that I am (mentally/emotionally) Unstable in some way?

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hmmm...
You seem very intelligent.
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Wow your reasoning is truly inspiring to the human race.

Just the Village Idiot · 09-14-2002, 05:29 PM

volante · 09-14-2002, 05:29 PM

Got a link to that report?

jammyjenkins · 09-14-2002, 05:30 PM

Yup, it better not be a link to someone's geocities page either...

Mr.Fiction · 09-14-2002, 05:31 PM

Now I'm voting for Massive Cock twice in November - like a lot of the Republicans did for Bush in Florida in 2000.

jammyjenkins · 09-14-2002, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Now I'm voting for Massive Cock twice in November - like a lot of the Republicans did for Bush in Florida in 2000.

You don't need to vote, 'cos...

MASSIVECOCK OWNS YOU!!!

Mr.Fiction · 09-14-2002, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by jammyjenkins

You don't need to vote, 'cos...

MASSIVECOCK OWNS YOU!!!

He might just be "The Leader" that everyone talks about.

Joe Sixpack · 09-14-2002, 05:35 PM

The American public are sheep. They believe everything the media and the government spoon feed them.

EscortBiz · 09-14-2002, 05:35 PM

Colonel Donn de Grand? who the fuck is that, sounds like a french price quote to remove a colon from someones asshole

Massivecock · 09-14-2002, 05:36 PM

Here is the Link.

http://the-news.net/cgi-bin/story.pl...ed&edition=663

EscortBiz · 09-14-2002, 05:39 PM

makes one wonder where the fuck do you find these sites

Sly_RJ · 09-14-2002, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
makes one wonder where the fuck do you find these sites

I'm starting to think he played a role in 9/11.

theking · 09-14-2002, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Massivecock

Why do i need help?

Because i am cutting and pasting the offical results of the
congressional investigations into 9/11?

"A Portugal-based investigative journalist has presented THE NEWS with version of the September 11th attacks that has to date failed to attract the attention of the international press."

Where is the "offical results of the congressional investigations into 9/11" located in the article?

jimmyf · 09-14-2002, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking

"A Portugal-based investigative journalist has presented THE NEWS with version of the September 11th attacks that has to date failed to attract the attention of the international press."

Where is the "offical results of the congressional investigations into 9/11" located in the article?

I wonder why? failed to attract the attention of the international press

hahmike · 09-14-2002, 07:03 PM

hahaha massivecock, will you ever learn?

here you go, this should provide a few lifetimes worth of entertainment for you: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...8&q=conspiracy

ChrisH · 09-14-2002, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Massivecock
Here is the Link.

http://the-news.net/cgi-bin/story.pl...ed&edition=663

Yea and some French fuck wrote a book that pretty much said a plane never hit the Pentegon.

Too funny man...... too funny

Massivecock · 09-14-2002, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by ChrisH

Yea and some French fuck wrote a book that pretty much said a plane never hit the Pentegon.

Too funny man...... too funny

What investigation did you do?
Watch Cnn and take their word for it?
Thats some serious research!!!! wow!
---This Guy Interviewed hundreds of people and did months of investigation to come to that conclusion.
Hes not the only one!
Cia Agents, Fbi Agents and many more thave come forward to say it was a cover up!
Problem is you have to read!!!!!!! to find these things out.
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Plane crashes into Pentagon?

Ohh ok..
Thats why not one single shread, shaving, nut, bolt, airplane seat, peice of airplane metal was ever found on, in, or nearby the pentagon.

Thats why 5 authors from around the world have wrote books on how the pentagon lied about the airplane crash.

Thats why over a dozen workers there,, say they saw a truck parked on the side of the building explode! and blow the side of the building.
" Never hear about that in the media do you"?

The Pentagon the most protected air space on the planet
with a air force base 10 miles away that is on alert 24 hours a day
with a government that spends 1 billion a day on defence.
Let a Airliner that they knew was highjacked watched it fly across the united states in broad daylight and crash into the pentagon
without stopping it?
$1,000,000,000 a day on defense ( Billion! )
and they watched patiently as a plane flys into the most protected air space in the planet!

Gimme a fucking break!

Then when investigators get there..
There is not a shread of anything left from the plane..
Disappeared into thin air?

theking · 09-14-2002, 08:04 PM

quote:
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Originally posted by Massivecock

Why do i need help?

Because i am cutting and pasting the offical results of the
congressional investigations into 9/11?
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"A Portugal-based investigative journalist has presented THE NEWS with version of the September 11th attacks that has to date failed to attract the attention of the international press."

Where is the "offical results of the congressional investigations into 9/11" located in the article?

I am patiently awaiting an answer?

Massivecock · 09-14-2002, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking

"A Portugal-based investigative journalist has presented THE NEWS with version of the September 11th attacks that has to date failed to attract the attention of the international press."

Where is the "offical results of the congressional investigations into 9/11" located in the article?

My error. not congressional but Federal Investigation.

theking · 09-14-2002, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by Massivecock

My error. not congressional but Federal Investigation.

Show me in the article where is says "Federal Investigation"? Or any kind of an official investigation?

Chris R · 09-14-2002, 08:16 PM

There is a picture of part of the airplane on here:

http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

You know - I have no doubt that the gov't covers up things. But do you REALLY think they could cover up something this big?

We are talking about thousands of people being involved in the investigation and recovery of bodies and evidence - most of them american. If any of these people had doubts - do you think they could cover it up?

Of course not.

You are living in a fantasy world...

The fact that pieces of the airplane were not recovered is false. I have seen several pieces on TV - and I am sure there are plenty of others. I guess they could be faked, but then what happened to those on board? Where did the plane go?

archer · 09-14-2002, 08:16 PM

Brad Mitchell · 09-14-2002, 08:17 PM

Horst shit.

Notice how all those independant experts are seemingly unemployed or retired?

I thought all the conspiracy theorists were dead set on a missle going into the Pentagon and not a plane, last I heard.

Every reference to "THE NEWS" never actually mentioned a single credible journal or publication.

I like a good conspiracy as good as the next guy but suggesting that someone took over remote control of all 4 airplanes from the ground is stupid as fuck.

Brad

Chris R · 09-14-2002, 08:18 PM

Here is more:

Apparently all but one of the bodies on the plane that hit the pentagon has been identified - guess that is part of the conspiracy as well.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/pentagoncrash.htm

Massivecock · 09-14-2002, 08:19 PM

The report, compiled by an independent inquiry into the September 11th, World Trade Centre attack, warns the American public that the government?s official version of events does not stand up to scrutiny.

Note the word ( Inquiry )
: To inquire
: To Investigate
: To Gather Evidence

A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand, after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners, involved in the September 11th tragedy, had no control over their aircraft.

Note the Word ( Military )
: Federal Mandated Agency
: Federal Juristiction under Federal Rule.
: Not Subject to Local or State Court, but to Military Court which is a Federal Funded and Sponsored Institution.

Military Inquiry = Federal Investigation

Massivecock · 09-14-2002, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris R
There is a picture of part of the airplane on here:

http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

You know - I have no doubt that the gov't covers up things. But do you REALLY think they could cover up something this big?

We are talking about thousands of people being involved in the investigation and recovery of bodies and evidence - most of them american. If any of these people had doubts - do you think they could cover it up?

Of course not.

You are living in a fantasy world...

The fact that pieces of the airplane were not recovered is false. I have seen several pieces on TV - and I am sure there are plenty of others. I guess they could be faked, but then what happened to those on board? Where did the plane go?

They tried to cover it up.
But obviously they havent done a good job, because we are sitting here talking about it.
The only people who are fooled are the people who have taken their word for it.
Its a matter of perception.

What happend to those on board of what?

There was no plane!!!

Where did the plane go?

There was no plane!!!

There were no peices found!
Just because a dude comes on tv and says " look at these peices of airplane we found" dont mean its true.
Especially when the Government Controlled media is trying to deceive you and cover it up.

Chris R · 09-14-2002, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by SinEmpire
Horst shit.

Notice how all those independant experts are seemingly unemployed or retired?

I thought all the conspiracy theorists were dead set on a missle going into the Pentagon and not a plane, last I heard.

Every reference to "THE NEWS" never actually mentioned a single credible journal or publication.

I like a good conspiracy as good as the next guy but suggesting that someone took over remote control of all 4 airplanes from the ground is stupid as fuck.

Brad

Yeah - I guess osama just put 19 terrorist aboard for the fun of it - they were at flight training school just for kicks

Turns out all those photos and interviews were all faked too. Lot of fake stuff going on for the purpose of kiiling americans for what reason again?

This conspiracy theory sucks ass.

Chris R · 09-14-2002, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Massivecock

They tried to cover it up.
But obviously they havent done a good job, because we are sitting here talking about it.
The only people who are fooled are the people who have taken their word for it.
Its a matter of perception.

You think that there could be hundreds of people walking around not finding parts of an airplane and then not go to the news?

WHY?

WHAT MOTIVE?

You are the only one on this board that believes this. I don't tatke the govt's word for anything, but I do think with thousands of people involved SOMEONE would speak up if they don't find plane pieces.

A plane hit that building - it was on radar - how do you explain that? Radar operator part of the cover up - husbands that called their wives on their cell phones - that was part of the cover up?

theking · 09-14-2002, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Massivecock
The report, compiled by an independent inquiry into the September 11th, World Trade Centre attack, warns the American public that the government?s official version of events does not stand up to scrutiny.

Note the word ( Inquiry )
: To inquire
: To Investigate
: To Gather Evidence

A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand, after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners, involved in the September 11th tragedy, had no control over their aircraft.

Note the Word ( Military )
: Federal Mandated Agency
: Federal Juristiction under Federal Rule.
: Not Subject to Local or State Court, but to Military Court which is a Federal Funded and Sponsored Institution.

Military Inquiry = Federal Investigation

This has gone from "offical results of the congressional investigations into 9/11" to "Federal Investigation" to some military personell were a part of this "investigation", thus a "Federal Investigation". Quite a stretch. Don't let me interfere with you conspiracy posts though. The 2 and 1/2 hour video was very entertaining.

Chris R · 09-14-2002, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by Massivecock
...A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand, after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours...

The first paragraph should tip you off the report is bullshit - people don't diliberate for 72 hours straight.

That is lunacy.

Massivecock · 09-14-2002, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris R

Yeah - I guess osama just put 19 terrorist aboard for the fun of it - they were at flight training school just for kicks Turns out all those photos and interviews were all faked too. Lot of fake stuff going on for the purpose of kiiling americans for what reason again?

This conspiracy theory sucks ass.

We dont even know Osama was invovled!
No evidence has come forward yet proving he did it.

Bush says he wont release the evidence
" National Security "!!

Ohh ok mr Bush.
We will just take your word for it.!
Ha!

Then the Cia says it found the hijackers passports in all the twistedmolten metal rubble in the Wtc ground zero.
3,000,000 tons of metal and concrete and you find the terrorist passports fully intact and in great condition?

haha..
thats a sick joke!

Rutopls · 09-14-2002, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Massivecock
The report, compiled by an independent inquiry into the September 11th, World Trade Centre attack, warns the American public that the government?s official version of events does not stand up to scrutiny.

Note the word ( Inquiry )
: To inquire
: To Investigate
: To Gather Evidence

A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand, after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners, involved in the September 11th tragedy, had no control over their aircraft.

Note the Word ( Military )
: Federal Mandated Agency
: Federal Juristiction under Federal Rule.
: Not Subject to Local or State Court, but to Military Court which is a Federal Funded and Sponsored Institution.

Military Inquiry = Federal Investigation

Jesus, I hope you are just doing this to fuck around and get a rise out of people and don't really believe in your own flawed logic.

Where in that tangled web of an article state that any of the military branches commissioned that report? Just because a retired Col, who is more then likely just trying to get publicity to his book, there for cashing in on the lives of the people that died in Sept 11th like so many other parasites, wrote something does NOT mean it is a federal investigation.

For example, the Black Hawk Down novel was written from accounts of Delta Operators and Rangers on the scene, that does not make it a "official: federal investigation, because it was not endorsed nor commissioned by anyone in the federal govt.

Quote:

Originally posted by Massivecock A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand, after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners, involved in the September 11th tragedy, had no control over their aircraft. [/B]

This is my favorite part... well of course they didnt have control jackass that is what this word means

HIJACK
To seize control of (a moving vehicle) by use of force, especially in order to reach an alternate destination

The flight crew wasnt in control because the terroist were....

Massivecock · 09-14-2002, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris R

The first paragraph should tip you off the report is bullshit - people don't diliberate for 72 hours straight.

That is lunacy.

ohh no!
Thats Absurd!!!!!! 72 hours...
Oh my God!
The the Guiness Book of world Records!
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Ever hear of Jurys.
Some Juries squabble over the verdict for days!
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duhh!

theking · 09-14-2002, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris R

The first paragraph should tip you off the report is bullshit - people don't diliberate for 72 hours straight.

That is lunacy.

Conspiracy theorists do, they really get carried away with themselves. Massivecock is a minor example of this.

Smegma · 09-14-2002, 08:37 PM

This is the same government that can't pass a budget, was responsible for the Bradley Fighting Vehicle.. ?? riiiight

Massivecock · 09-14-2002, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rutopls

This is my favorite part... well of course they didnt have control jackass that is what this word means

HIJACK
To seize control of (a moving vehicle) by use of force, especially in order to reach an alternate destination

The flight crew wasnt in control because the terroist were....

Ok I got a good one for you!

Where in that tangled web of an article state that any of the military branches commissioned that report?

No where!

Where did this word (commissioned) come from?

what relevance does the word (commissioned) have to do with anything I wrote?

Chris R · 09-14-2002, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Massivecock

We dont even know Osama was invovled!
No evidence has come forward yet proving he did it.

Bush says he wont release the evidence
" National Security "!!

Ohh ok mr Bush.
We will just take your word for it.!
Ha!

Then the Cia says it found the hijackers passports in all the twistedmolten metal rubble in the Wtc ground zero.
3,000,000 tons of metal and concrete and you find the terrorist passports fully intact and in great condition?

haha..
thats a sick joke!

Ok - my last reply in the near future as I agree with the other poster that you can't possibly believe this stuff, but who knows...

1) Osama Bin Laden

a) Has openly declared war on America
b) Admits on the video tapes having knowledge ahead of time of the attacks.

Guess those tapes could be fake too - as I don't speak arabic, but guess what? I have yet to see anyone offering a different interpretation.

2) Passport found in good condition.

You obviously haven't seen stuff after a fire - not everything in a fire is reduced to charred remains. I guess you didn't see the hundreds of passports, drivers licenses, and wallets that were given back to victims and their families with only dust on them.

So they went through the trouble of doing remote control planes and the slip up on the passports - give me a break.

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The only joke here is your conspiracy theory.

Lets assume for a minute you are right - that the planes went into the WTC by remote control - why would having the passport of the terrorist on board be in contradition to your theory - we know the people the gov't is claiming are terrorists wen't on board. So are you saying the 19 people the claim went on board didn't die in the attacks. If so - where are they?

And please tell us where the plane is the DIDN'T hit the pentagon.

Dreamman010 · 09-14-2002, 08:43 PM

Then why the fuck would Al Qaeda say that they were responsible for the attack?

Massivecock · 09-14-2002, 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by theking

Conspiracy theorists do, they really get carried away with themselves. Massivecock is a minor example of this.

Your probably right on that.

But then again.

Many "Anti- Other view point Theorist." ( which mean people who are against others who dont share the same point of view)

These people probably squabble just as long if not longer
trying to discredit, slander or denying the obvious.

PornoDoggy · 09-14-2002, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Massivecock

During the press conference Captain Hill maintained that the four airliners must have been choreographed by an Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS). This system can engage several aircraft simultaneously by knocking out their on-board flight controls. He said that all the evidence points to the fact that the pilots and their crews had not taken any evasive action to resist the supposed hijackers. They had not attempted any sudden changes in flight path or nose-dive procedures - which led him to believe that they had no control over their aircraft.

Where to start ... that's a totally bullshit description of an AWACS. The "Control" in this context refers to air traffic control in a combat situation. If we had the capability of "knocking out their on-board flight controls" with a fucking unarmed plane outfitted with fancy radars and powerful radios, we'd never have to worry about getting a plane shot down by an enemy aircraft.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Massivecock

A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand, after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners, involved in the September 11th tragedy, had no control over their aircraft.

Note the Word ( Military )
: Federal Mandated Agency
: Federal Juristiction under Federal Rule.
: Not Subject to Local or State Court, but to Military Court which is a Federal Funded and Sponsored Institution.

Military Inquiry = Federal Investigation

BULL FUCKING SHIT. Unless this investigation is officially ORDERED by the U.S. government, it is not a "military" or "federal" investigation in any way, shape or form. Assuming that Captain Hill is Air Force or Army, he would be far too junior to be on ANY kind of official panel.

Please - I really haven't had anything that good since the early 70s - can I get an ounce of it?

Rutopls · 09-14-2002, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Massivecock

Note the Word ( Military )
: Federal Mandated Agency
: Federal Juristiction under Federal Rule.
: Not Subject to Local or State Court, but to Military Court which is a Federal Funded and Sponsored Institution.

Military Inquiry = Federal Investigation

So by inferring this you werent saying that the Military was responsible for the report? Thereby making it a "Federal" report? lol

When a military branch or DOD investigates a report they do it internally or they "commisson" a outside agency usually retires if they are considered an expert in their field.

If they used the good Col then he was commisioned from the DOD or military branch, making it a federal investigation as you stated.

Though from your own admission they didnt commisson the report from Col Crackpot, so that would mean it isnt a "Federal" report, it is a report form an independent agency that has just as many questionable motives as the goverment... oh lord who do I believe in now???????

Massivecock · 09-14-2002, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dreamman010
Then why the fuck would Al Qaeda say that they were responsible for the attack?

Now where did you get you hands on that info?
please provide me with a source to that info if possible.

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According to my findings they lack the knowledge, materials, training, technology and means to pull off such an attack.
+ Plus the evidence already points somewhere else to the source of this all.
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i would love to get some info on what you are refering to .

Massivecock · 09-14-2002, 08:56 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PornoDoggy

Where to start ... that's a totally bullshit description of an AWACS. The "Control" in this context refers to air traffic control in a combat situation. If we had the capability of "knocking out their on-board flight controls" with a fucking unarmed plane outfitted with fancy radars and powerful radios, we'd never have to worry about getting a plane shot down by an enemy aircraft.

Quote:

Originally posted by Massivecock

A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand, after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners, involved in the September 11th tragedy, had no control over their aircraft.

Note the Word ( Military )
: Federal Mandated Agency
: Federal Juristiction under Federal Rule.
: Not Subject to Local or State Court, but to Military Court which is a Federal Funded and Sponsored Institution.

Military Inquiry = Federal Investigation

BULL FUCKING SHIT. Unless this investigation is officially ORDERED by the U.S. government, it is not a "military" or "federal" investigation in any way, shape or form. Assuming that Captain Hill is Air Force or Army, he would be far too junior to be on ANY kind of official panel.

Please - I really haven't had anything that good since the early 70s - can I get an ounce of it?

LOL!!!
Of Course you not going to get an offical panel!
When they are the one behind it.

And if you did get an offical panel... the findings are going to come back with no mention of Usa invovlement.

Duh!

And Just a side note: Just because something is not ordered by a branch of Government doesn't mean the findings are unreliable.
Not that you said that.. thats the impression i am getting though.

These are current military personal who are concerned with the finding and doing an investigation.
They found the usa Gov's Story dont add up!

Dont blame me for their findings.. Blame them!

Massivecock · 09-14-2002, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by Rutopls

So by inferring this you werent saying that the Military was responsible for the report? Thereby making it a "Federal" report? lol

When a military branch or DOD investigates a report they do it internally or they "commisson" a outside agency usually retires if they are considered an expert in their field.

If they used the good Col then he was commisioned from the DOD or military branch, making it a federal investigation as you stated.

Though from your own admission they didnt commisson the report from Col Crackpot, so that would mean it isnt a "Federal" report, it is a report form an independent agency that has just as many questionable motives as the goverment... oh lord who do I believe in now???????

Very good point!

I see your point.

Something more for us all to think about.

PornoDoggy · 09-14-2002, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by Massivecock

According to my findings they lack the knowledge, materials, training, technology and means to pull off such an attack.
+ Plus the evidence already points somewhere else to the source of this all.

Are YOU Col. Donn de Grand? You have done an official investigation into this? What resources have you put into this? Name some sources besides this bullshit piece in "the-news.net."

The enrollment of many of the hijackers in flight schools is falsified? Frankly - they've caught up to a certain number of flight schools - how many HAVEN'T they caught up with? How many folks took some $$ under the table and gave them some off the books flight training or midnight simultaor time? That blows your knowledge, training, and means right out of the water.

What "means" do you feel they lacked? Money? Obviously they were (and probably are) not lacking in that.

This is a crock of shit. I suggest you go back to watching for UFOs ... or inspecting your turds for alien life forms.

Kris · 09-14-2002, 09:01 PM

not even going to read any of this... wtf? it's getting so old. are you really going to change the world by bringing your conspiracy theories here??? i'm seriously worried about you. please tell me you haven't reproduced...

theking · 09-14-2002, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by Massivecock

Very good point!

I see your point.

Something more for us all to think about.

Very magnanimous of you!

Massivecock · 09-14-2002, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by Chris R

Ok - my last reply in the near future as I agree with the other poster that you can't possibly believe this stuff, but who knows...

1) Osama Bin Laden

a) Has openly declared war on America
b) Admits on the video tapes having knowledge ahead of time of the attacks.

Guess those tapes could be fake too - as I don't speak arabic, but guess what? I have yet to see anyone offering a different interpretation.

2) Passport found in good condition.

You obviously haven't seen stuff after a fire - not everything in a fire is reduced to charred remains. I guess you didn't see the hundreds of passports, drivers licenses, and wallets that were given back to victims and their families with only dust on them.

So they went through the trouble of doing remote control planes and the slip up on the passports - give me a break.

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The only joke here is your conspiracy theory.

Lets assume for a minute you are right - that the planes went into the WTC by remote control - why would having the passport of the terrorist on board be in contradition to your theory - we know the people the gov't is claiming are terrorists wen't on board. So are you saying the 19 people the claim went on board didn't die in the attacks. If so - where are they?

And please tell us where the plane is the DIDN'T hit the pentagon.

ok here we go.

7 of the 19 highjackers still alive.. link and sources for the info.
http://www.rense.com/general20/alives.htm

According to the Gov
The heat generated by the burning jet fuel was so great that it melted the support beams which hold up the wtc. causing it to crash.
Now we know the flames fire and fuel originate from the planes
supposedly. Would not the flames, heat and fire be most intense
at the point if impact where the terrorist would have been, along with other passengers?
Hot enough to melt Metal, but not hot enough to burn a paper
passport? Mind you these passports are at the center of the impact..where the heat, flames and jet fuel is the hottest!
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How did the passports survive.
When the Planes Black Box was never found supposedly.
These blackboxes are almost indestructable.

09-14-2002, 05:17 PM	#1
Massivecock Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 800	Breaking News! 9/11 Offical inquiry finds Government version Flawed! The report, compiled by an independent inquiry into the September 11th, World Trade Centre attack, warns the American public that the government?s official version of events does not stand up to scrutiny. A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand, after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners, involved in the September 11th tragedy, had no control over their aircraft. In a detailed press communiqué the inquiry stated: ?The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation carried out against the USA, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be used as guided missiles and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles to their pre-selected targets.? The report seriously questions whether or not the suspect hijackers, supposedly trained on Cessna light aircraft, could have located a target dead-on 200 miles from take off point. It further throws into doubt their ability to master the intricacies of the instrument flight rules (IFR) in the 45 minutes from take off to the point of impact. Colonel de Grand said that it would be impossible for novices to have taken control of the four aircraft and orchestrated such a terrible act requiring military precision of the highest order. A member of the inquiry team, a US Air Force officer who flew over 100 sorties during the Vietnam war, told the press conference: ?Those birds (commercial airliners) either had a crack fighter pilot in the left seat, or they were being manoeuvred by remote control.? In evidence given to the enquiry, Captain Kent Hill (retd.) of the US Air Force, and friend of Chic Burlingame, the pilot of the plane that crashed into the Pentagon, stated that the US had on several occasions flown an unmanned aircraft, similar in size to a Boeing 737, across the Pacific from Edwards Air Force base in California to South Australia. According to Hill it had flown on a pre programmed flight path under the control of a pilot in an outside station. Hill also quoted Bob Ayling, former British Airways boss, in an interview given to the London Economist on September 20th, 2001. Ayling admitted that it was now possible to control an aircraft in flight from either the ground or in the air. This was confirmed by expert witnesses at the inquiry who testified that airliners could be controlled by electro-magnetic pulse or radio frequency instrumentation from command and control platforms based either in the air or at ground level. All members of the inquiry team agreed that even if guns were held to their heads none of them would fly a plane into a building. Their reaction would be to ditch the plane into a river or a field, thereby safeguarding the lives of those on the ground. A further question raised by the inquiry was why none of the pilots concerned had alerted ground control. It stated that all pilots are trained to punch a four-digit code into the flight control?s transponder to warn ground control crews of a hijacking - but this did not happen. During the press conference Captain Hill maintained that the four airliners must have been choreographed by an Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS). This system can engage several aircraft simultaneously by knocking out their on-board flight controls. He said that all the evidence points to the fact that the pilots and their crews had not taken any evasive action to resist the supposed hijackers. They had not attempted any sudden changes in flight path or nose-dive procedures - which led him to believe that they had no control over their aircraft. THE NEWS, in an attempt to further substantiate the potential veracity of these findings, spoke to an Algarve-based airline pilot, who has more than 20 years of experience in flying passenger planes, to seek his views. Captain Colin McHattie, currently flying with Cathay Pacific, agreed with the independent commission?s findings. However, he explained that while it is possible to fly a plane from the ground, the installation of the necessary equipment is a time-consuming process, and needs extensive planning. THE NEWS will publish a full interview with Captain McHattie in next week?s edition. The FBI also came in for criticism for the various pieces of contradictory evidence it has published regarding the suspects. Questions are now being asked as to how incorrect information was given out regarding the ID cards of the suspects, and the seat numbers they supposedly occupied after boarding the flights. None of the suspects named by the FBI appeared on any of the official passenger lists. A further point was how the FBI had managed to retrieve the passport of one of the suspects amid the molten and twisted remains of thousands of tons of steel and rubble brought about by the Twin Towers collapse. Dr. Paul Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury, and presently Senior Research Fellow at Stamford University, has lent his support to the independent inquiry findings. He also claims that Osama Bin Laden was not responsible for September 11th. The doctor has challenged President Bush to make public the so-called ?irrefutable evidence? incriminating Bin Laden. Colonel Donn de Grand said that if President Bush is lying it would not be the first time that the American people had been mislead by its government. He cited the recently published official government archives describing President Roosevelt?s duplicity in deceiving Americans about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour, which triggered the US entry into WWll. He also highlighted the role of the country?s government in misleading its citizens in respect of the Bay of Pigs invasion in Cuba, and the events that brought about the Spanish American war in the late 19th, century. ?Whilst considering who committed this act of war on September 11th,? he said, ?albeit Russia, China, an Islamic country or NATO, we must also consider that the enemy may well be within the gates. ?Not for the first time the American public might be being mislead, by those with ulterior motives, into lending its support to a war, this time against Iraq, that has no bearing whatsoever on the interests of the people of the USA.?

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Chris R Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 1,151	There is a picture of part of the airplane on here: http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/pentagon.htm You know - I have no doubt that the gov't covers up things. But do you REALLY think they could cover up something this big? We are talking about thousands of people being involved in the investigation and recovery of bodies and evidence - most of them american. If any of these people had doubts - do you think they could cover it up? Of course not. You are living in a fantasy world... The fact that pieces of the airplane were not recovered is false. I have seen several pieces on TV - and I am sure there are plenty of others. I guess they could be faked, but then what happened to those on board? Where did the plane go?

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