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Old 09-23-2007, 08:23 PM   #1
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lets talk aabout 12clickcash

anyone want to know some history behind the owner of this program? lets tlak about that for a second.

he started the pay per click idea way back in the early porn days. he was hooked in tight with some ppl and learned the game quick and learned how to rip off people and invented the term shave. he ripped off so many pay per click webmasters that he was able to be quite successful at it and made allot of money at the same time making a ton of enemies.

then he moved onto a company called standard internet. look it up on google lol it is a download and install type of program that hijacked computers left and right totally fucking up allot of peoples computers with his ads and shit and you could not remove this program from your pc.

then after all that money ran out, he recently started a program called
http://12clickscash.com/

now, if anyone trusts this guy with a bottle of water, you probably got ripped off in the process.

just a little dirt on 12 clicks for the newbies.

enjoy Ron,, hope you have a great night. your prrogram doesnt convert for shit and I know this for a fact when you asked us to mail it for you. we stopped after a 1/4 of the way and refunded you your money back becuase it was so horrible.

mailers, he takes mail too! so hit him up. but dont count on good conversions. it sucks balls.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:25 PM   #2
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:27 PM   #4
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Kids, I hate to say it but the Pimpdogg we see this week is the same one from a few years ago.

He used this random piss method to build his program.
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Damn, I might have to go back to the store for more popcorn. lol
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Kids, I hate to say it but the Pimpdogg we see this week is the same one from a few years ago.

He used this random piss method to build his program.
How does this build a program ?
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I think he had piss matches every single day for 6 months.

It takes a special kind for that.

Unfortunately I think 12 clicks only pisses during office hours so we may have to wait until tomorrow for a response.
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How does this build a program ?
Public awareness.

Logic would say that it would kill a program because people wouldn't want to be associated with such nonsense... but somehow it worked for Trey Hickey. You can't deny that.
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Public awareness.

Logic would say that it would kill a program because people wouldn't want to be associated with such nonsense... but somehow it worked for Trey Hickey. You can't deny that.
Really thats interesting, if I was an affiliate I would want my programs owners to have a moderate personality and low key but thats me.
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Really thats interesting, if I was an affiliate I would want my programs owners to have a moderate personality and low key but thats me.

Yeh, and the public "says" they don't like politicians that talk shit...

HOWEVER, go check out the studies that show time and time again the winner is almost ALWAYS the guy that threw the most mud that stuck. What people say they like and what they respond to are not always the same thing. :/


I knew another guy that used similar pdog tactics that was a rep for a very shady, fly by night program that would juice a good # of new affiliates every time he came on here and started a fight. It's like hitting the feed bin...easy.
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the only bad publicity is NO publicity.

for any of you people that THINK you know what marketing is, you really dont. just becuase you submit galleries that you paid 20 bucks to have made for you and made a sale or 2, doe not qualify you as a marketing genious.

its quite clear I know how to play people like a fiddle and the reasons that tony404 cant understand, is the exact same reason he is unsuccessful. he doesnt think outside the box.

Tony, have you happend to follow hollywood? you notice that the actors and actresses startve for attention that are hot at the moment on the movie circuit? its the same idea behind what i do. I draw attention to myself. its like watching a train wreck, you dont want to look, but you have to.

now for the really hard part to understand. stay with me moron. it works for me because everyone that hears all this bad shit about me or how much of a dickhead I am join the program because they want to see whats so bad about me or it, then they join and see how its actually a really nice program, and has everything everyone would need. then they send traffic and notice how it actually does convert.



boom! i have a new ffiliate that is making money and eveyone is happy.

now do you understand how this works?

you fucking moron.
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can you draw a pie chart to illustrate it for those of us who arent interweb masters
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the only bad publicity is NO publicity.

for any of you people that THINK you know what marketing is, you really dont. just becuase you submit galleries that you paid 20 bucks to have made for you and made a sale or 2, doe not qualify you as a marketing genious.

its quite clear I know how to play people like a fiddle and the reasons that tony404 cant understand, is the exact same reason he is unsuccessful. he doesnt think outside the box.

Tony, have you happend to follow hollywood? you notice that the actors and actresses startve for attention that are hot at the moment on the movie circuit? its the same idea behind what i do. I draw attention to myself. its like watching a train wreck, you dont want to look, but you have to.

now for the really hard part to understand. stay with me moron. it works for me because everyone that hears all this bad shit about me or how much of a dickhead I am join the program because they want to see whats so bad about me or it, then they join and see how its actually a really nice program, and has everything everyone would need. then they send traffic and notice how it actually does convert.



boom! i have a new ffiliate that is making money and eveyone is happy.

now do you understand how this works?

you fucking moron.
Trey why do you have to keep calling me names? I agree your more successful than me and trying to understand how this works not attacking you just asking questions.I think you really don't feel more successful than me hence you have to call me names to make yourself feel better and thats sad because you have alot on the ball.
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LOL, hahaha, dude... for you :D
Thanks man, I was in a google images type of mood...



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the only bad publicity is NO publicity.

for any of you people that THINK you know what marketing is, you really dont. just becuase you submit galleries that you paid 20 bucks to have made for you and made a sale or 2, doe not qualify you as a marketing genious.

its quite clear I know how to play people like a fiddle and the reasons that tony404 cant understand, is the exact same reason he is unsuccessful. he doesnt think outside the box.

Tony, have you happend to follow hollywood? you notice that the actors and actresses startve for attention that are hot at the moment on the movie circuit? its the same idea behind what i do. I draw attention to myself. its like watching a train wreck, you dont want to look, but you have to.

now for the really hard part to understand. stay with me moron. it works for me because everyone that hears all this bad shit about me or how much of a dickhead I am join the program because they want to see whats so bad about me or it, then they join and see how its actually a really nice program, and has everything everyone would need. then they send traffic and notice how it actually does convert.



boom! i have a new ffiliate that is making money and eveyone is happy.

now do you understand how this works?

you fucking moron.
yeah I am sure Jack in a box's sales went through the roof after it was advertised that 12 people had died from eating their burgers because it was bad meat.

I'll give you that most publicity is good, but not all of it. I guess when you market the same shit as everyone else you need to do something a little different to bring attention to yourself and stand out from the crowd.
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Trey why do you have to keep calling me names? I agree your more successful than me and trying to understand how this works not attacking you just asking questions.I think you really don't feel more successful than me hence you have to call me names to make yourself feel better and thats sad because you have alot on the ball.
i do it because im sick of idiots like you who dont have 2 nickles to rub together try and fuck with me rather than try and get on my good side and let me help you out. yes believe it or not i help alot of people out and do deals with them on alot of things. thats why i am so successful because i branch out into other things and help ppl get started with their ideas when they dont have the money to.

wether or not you want my help doent matter, you people are a dime a dozen and i just lump you all into the same catagory which is useless turd that talks shit but cant back it up.

thats why
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um, there are about 5 thousand tgps you halffwit.

most? hardly. a handful yes. why? because they dont like me. that is the only reason.

and yet here we still are, thriving.

go figure.
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i do it because im sick of idiots like you who dont have 2 nickles to rub together try and fuck with me rather than try and get on my good side and let me help you out. yes believe it or not i help alot of people out and do deals with them on alot of things. thats why i am so successful because i branch out into other things and help ppl get started with their ideas when they dont have the money to.

wether or not you want my help doent matter, you people are a dime a dozen and i just lump you all into the same catagory which is useless turd that talks shit but cant back it up.

thats why
Talk shit, when have I talked shit Trey? When I congratulated you on your watches or your success or having so much on the ball asking why are you wasting your time with this shit?
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Talk shit, when have I talked shit Trey? When I congratulated you on your watches or your success or having so much on the ball asking why are you wasting your time with this shit?
Well Trey im waiting ,Ive been nothing but nice to you and you haven't been nice to me today and blaming me for your actions. Also I dont need anything from you or your help. If you knew me and what I do you would know that.

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Well Trey im waiting ,Ive been nothing but nice to you and you haven't been nice to me today and blaming me for your actions. Also I dont need anything from you or your help. If you knew me and what I do you would know that.
you have recently started being a dick to me during all this drama. thats when you talked shit to e. other than that we have been cool as far as i know. you jumped right in with the herd and started flaming the fire with everyone else.
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Really thats interesting, if I was an affiliate I would want my programs owners to have a moderate personality and low key but thats me.
Really? As an affiliate, I want a program owner to run a program that puts money in my pocket. I don't give a shit what their board persona is.

As long as Trey isn't kicking babes or burning crosses on lawns, I don't care about his internet shit talking. His program puts money in my pockets and that makes me happy. Of course, I'd be happier if it converted a little better ;)
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you have recently started being a dick to me during all this drama. thats when you talked shit to e. other than that we have been cool as far as i know. you jumped right in with the herd and started flaming the fire with everyone else.
Not really but I do think beating down a guy that has nothing is wrong. Man you flamed the fire all by yourself, you dont need me for that. lol How many threads have you started today? I did say your company paid promptly twice and with your success this was beneath you basically. No name calling at all. I wish with your passion and fire you would help us in our fight against BT's

I did throw in a few popcorn posts thats because they make me laugh. lol
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Oh and Trey.. say hi to your sister for me.
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Really? As an affiliate, I want a program owner to run a program that puts money in my pocket. I don't give a shit what their board persona is.

As long as Trey isn't kicking babes or burning crosses on lawns, I don't care about his internet shit talking. His program puts money in my pockets and that makes me happy. Of course, I'd be happier if it converted a little better ;)
So you wouldn't care if he made up lies about you and called you a thief and said that your company was ripping people off. So you would be fine with him attacking you and your business ? And you would put that aside and keep sending him traffic...

Tray thinks "us people" are a dime a dozen but he has it backwards, sponsors are a dime a dozen. I hate to break it to tray, but it is a lot harder for a program to find good affiliates than it is for good affiliates to find a program.
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Really? As an affiliate, I want a program owner to run a program that puts money in my pocket. I don't give a shit what their board persona is.

As long as Trey isn't kicking babes or burning crosses on lawns, I don't care about his internet shit talking. His program puts money in my pockets and that makes me happy. Of course, I'd be happier if it converted a little better ;)
Do you have to drop to you knees to suck on Trey's cock every time someone is trashing him? Or is it that you have no ethics either and try and convince everyone else that's the way to go so you don't have to feel like a piece of shit for being scum yourself?

Yeah... Trey has made a bunch of money... But he could have been even more successful and made a shit load more money if he'd played nice... but he's too stupid (along with all his followers) to realize that. Oh let's clarify.. yeah.. he finally realized that and so started up more programs and hid the fact that he was involved with them...

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Do you have to drop to you knees to suck on Trey's cock every time someone is trashing him? Or is it that you have no ethics either and try and convince everyone else that's the way to go so you don't have to feel like a piece of shit for being scum yourself?

Yeah... Trey has made a bunch of money... But he could have been even more successful and made a shit load more money if he'd played nice... but he's too stupid (along with all his followers) to realize that. Oh let's clarify.. yeah.. he finally realized that and so started up more programs and hid the fact that he was involved with them...

haha, whats up girl.. i missed you toay, you would have been fun to play with ;(

thanks for the props you cunt!
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... But he could have been even more successful and made a shit load more money if he'd played nice...

Could he? I don't know about that.

I think he made it work the way that fits him best.


Love him or hate him he made it work in a way that's specific to him.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:48 PM   #38
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I Invented the term "Shave".

But I am re-creating the term to "EpicCash".

Thus Epic Cashing for example.

When sponsors engage in Epic Cashing it makes webmasters very angry.

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Old 09-23-2007, 11:54 PM   #39
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I hear Trey paid over $10,000 to have the word cunt uncensored on gfy... he might have had to send some flowers too.. but either way thats still gangster in my book..
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:54 PM   #40
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Standard Internet sucks

I still never got my 2k from like 1997 or some shit
Yea it's amazing 12clicks gets any traffic at all with his past history.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:17 AM   #41
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haha, whats up girl.. i missed you toay, you would have been fun to play with ;(

thanks for the props you cunt!
Well given what we all found out about you today. i.e. pretending to be a cam girl, apparently you love the man meat so it's no wonder you continue with the roll playing...

Sorry I wasn't here to play with you... was taking a little break... but once I saw what was happening I hit up a couple of your affiliates to point out to them all the different ways you've admitted to being able to use to rip them off... probably not going to effect you all that much but it's a little less traffic that's going to be going your way.
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Old 09-24-2007, 06:21 AM   #42
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So you wouldn't care if he made up lies about you and called you a thief and said that your company was ripping people off. So you would be fine with him attacking you and your business ? And you would put that aside and keep sending him traffic...
As long as his tactics remained profitable for me, sure. If he caused me to lose money, then he can fuck himself in the ass with a broken beer mug. I don't know about you, but I'm doing this to make money, not friends.

I'm not defending Trey or sucking his cock. I'm just saying that people shouldn't get their knickers in a knot over internet drama.

"Oh noes! He said mean things on the interweb about my mommy! I'm never going to make money with him ever ever!"
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:02 PM   #43
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wow i'm a tad suprised 12clicks has nothing to say on the matter
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Pasted from a previous post, about how an "NDA" might work in this business with some company:

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1. Don't disclose skim.
2. Don't disclose the "original idea" is being used for all other clients.
3. Don't disclose we're photoshopping 1998 content for re-issue in a new "original" site.
4. Don't disclose we have no idea what the client's infrastructure is, but we'll sell them on a 1999 solution.
5. Don't disclose that our internal staffing changes faster than the seasons.
6. Don't disclose that our actual raw click to join page ratio is really shitty.
7. Don't disclose our designer was outsourced or was just hired from McDonalds because (s)he's the only one with some version of Adobe's web developer / photoshop suite.
8. Don't disclose that some internal people have deep ties to others in the industry, and when we push "You have to use [so and so's] plugin in your site" to the client, that said plugin isn't a piece of shit from 1999.
9. Don't disclose you work for us.
10. And, by all means, do not post the NDA on any board.
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11. All sorts of drama aside, in the end, what's make YOU the most money is what counts.
I'm poor and worthless, but I can even understand my place in the world and how #11 makes the most sense.

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Old 09-24-2007, 11:34 PM   #45
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i do it because im sick of idiots like you who dont have 2 nickles to rub together try and fuck with me rather than try and get on my good side and let me help you out. yes believe it or not i help alot of people out and do deals with them on alot of things. thats why i am so successful because i branch out into other things and help ppl get started with their ideas when they dont have the money to.

wether or not you want my help doent matter, you people are a dime a dozen and i just lump you all into the same catagory which is useless turd that talks shit but cant back it up.

thats why
Why would anyone want to do business with an asshole like you? Some of us have standards.

Also YOU are a dime a dozen in the grand scheme of things. No one would give a fuck if you fell off the face of the earth.
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Why would anyone want to do business with an asshole like you? Some of us have standards.

Also YOU are a dime a dozen in the grand scheme of things. No one would give a fuck if you fell off the face of the earth.
dont you think i know that?

also, dont you know that you are a nobody and the same applies to you?


news flash dumbass, there are new affiliuates every day thht get into this business, and morons like you wash out of it.

there is always fresh meat which makes this such a great business and I can tlak shit to anyone I want to and come out on top. sucks dont it bitch?
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dont you think i know that?

also, dont you know that you are a nobody and the same applies to you?


news flash dumbass, there are new affiliuates every day thht get into this business, and morons like you wash out of it.

there is always fresh meat which makes this such a great business and I can tlak shit to anyone I want to and come out on top. sucks dont it bitch?
News flash right back at you dipshit. You mistake take me for somone that actually gives a fuck about your opinion of me.

Too be totally honest if I saw you were about to fall off a cliff and I was the only one that had the ability to save you, I would just let you fucking die. sucks don't it tard?
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dont you think i know that?

also, dont you know that you are a nobody and the same applies to you?


news flash dumbass, there are new affiliuates every day thht get into this business, and morons like you wash out of it.

there is always fresh meat which makes this such a great business and I can tlak shit to anyone I want to and come out on top. sucks dont it bitch?
This thread is fucking awesome
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:53 AM   #50
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Too be totally honest if I saw you were about to fall off a cliff and I was the only one that had the ability to save you, I would just let you fucking die. sucks don't it tard?
nice theoretical situation you got going on there. i wouldn't be too worried as i don't hang around cliffs. not next to you anyway
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