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ne0 09-24-2007 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by darknight (Post 13132692)
ok what else did i forget,,,,so what information was forgotten from jena?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Je...out_the_nooses

I will quote for you:
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New Information about the nooses

It turns out that the nooses were placed there because of a high school sports match. The school the team was to play in an upcoming game's mascot was a cowboy. Several students made the nooses in order to demonstrate that the Jena team would "hang 'em high". Race probably had nothing to do with it. I got the information from a local Louisiana newspaper. ?Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.231.235.2 (talk) 17:44, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a source? Ophois 17:48, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

It has been quoted several places, like here : http://www.retrieverweekly.com/?modu...27&format=html that the nooses were in school colors. The nooses where hung on Friday Sept 1, 2006. Friday is of course high school football time. I have worked as a teacher in various high schools for 7 years, and Fridays are always crazy during football season. There is always some motto for the opponent of the week. eg: "Lock up Lexington". On Friday Sep 1 2006 Jena High School played the Avoyelles Mustangs from Moreauville, LA. [Info from Maxpreps.com] As a prior service member in the US Army 1st Cavalry Division, we saw plenty of Cavalry equipment. One such piece is the 'Neck Rope' like so: Image The properly tied neck rope does look a lot like a noose. It could be debated what a proper noose looks like. Traditional hang mans nooses have 13 coils. A horse neck lead has more like 6 coils. Yes this is splitting hairs, but the fact remains that a neck lead is a reasonable symbol for the Jena Giants to use prior to a football game against a 'Mustang' opponent. Some type of lasso seems more than appropriate. I believe I read the nooses in the White Tree were removed by custodians before the police arrived; we may never know the truth. In this age of political correctness, the noose has more evil connotations, but a lasso is just a cowboy tool. 64.234.45.87 13:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC)TJ Tx

You have a good point. However, the article you gave only says that they were painted in school colors. It makes no reference to a football game or anything else. For us to suggest that it was football-related without providing a source would be speculation. However, if you find a source that covers what you said above, please post it. Ophois 13:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Xplicit 09-24-2007 01:49 AM

darknight so if I understand you correctly you don't want the black kids charges reduced, you want the white kids charged also?

If so, thats fair enough and reasonable. Unfortunately Al Sharpton & friends have a much more extreme reverse-racism view on this.

ne0 09-24-2007 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit (Post 13132703)
darknight so if I understand you correctly you don't want the black kids charges reduced, you want the white kids charged also?

If so, thats fair enough and reasonable. Unfortunately Al Sharpton & friends have a much more extreme reverse-racism view on this.

I agree with that.
it's just that the picture is not the same.

darknight 09-24-2007 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SplitNeo (Post 13132701)

then i will quote for you,, i put the background part of wiki,, you posted the forum part of wiki...


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jena_six#Background
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jena_Six

darknight 09-24-2007 01:54 AM

aight everyone its been fun,, but its past my bedtime,,i have to get some sleep...

ne0 09-24-2007 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by darknight (Post 13132709)
then i will quote for you,, i put the background part of wiki,, you posted the forum part of wiki...


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jena_six#Background
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jena_Six

sorry I was supposed to give the link of the talk page only and quote that part since it showed exactly how fucked up the situation could be about the tree shit.
the other link you posted is the front page.

School people does stupid shit, and that's about it.

ne0 09-24-2007 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by darknight (Post 13132712)
aight everyone its been fun,, but its past my bedtime,,i have to get some sleep...

yeah same here, it was nice discussing this with you. have a good night :thumbsup

darknight 09-24-2007 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit (Post 13132703)
darknight so if I understand you correctly you don't want the black kids charges reduced, you want the white kids charged also?

If so, thats fair enough and reasonable. Unfortunately Al Sharpton & friends have a much more extreme reverse-racism view on this.

this is what i want to happen,, the sentece for the young man is to excessive,, yes the guy got beat up .. but what bout his situation why didnt the white guys get charged.... if black guys got charged the white guys should have too, if the white guys are free, the black guys should be free, its only fair and equal..

Pornwolf 09-24-2007 01:59 AM

I believe what Sharpton, and the other protestors, want is for the charges to be commiserate with the crime. Nothing more, nothing less. That's what the whole uproar is about. That section of the country is notorious for things like this.

Sure, the guys did a bad thing by beating the kid up. On the other hand, the kid taunted the black guys with racial slurs and such not long after a black kid was beaten up because of his race as well as other racial issues that had the town on edge.

If the shoe was on the other foot and a black kid did the taunting he should have gotten his ass kicked also. I'm sure we can all agree on that.

So, with that in mind, add the fact that the kid was well enough to go on with his life later that night.

Now, do you think attempted murder fits the crime?

ne0 09-24-2007 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 13132719)
Now, do you think attempted murder fits the crime?

That's just the american legal system.
The land of freedom, where you can sue everyone for about everything and lawyers advertise on TV.

Pornwolf 09-24-2007 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SplitNeo (Post 13132730)
That's just the american legal system.


You are right. Our system is fucked. There are so many things wrong with it we don't even know were to begin to look for a change most of the time.

This case is one where it is clear that a part of the legal system needs to be changed. Al Sharpton and his like have cried wolf a lot of times so a lot of people are having knee jerk reactions about why people are protesting based on his involvement. On top of that, the media began this issue by running articles that reported only part of the story. So lots of of folks are saying the negros are just rabble rousing.

Well, that's not true here. This isn't about getting those boys off of the hook. It's not about punishing the white guys. The protesters are there because parts of the south has to be prodded into coming into the 21st century. They want a truly fair, balanced and EQUAL justice system. It took this case for that issue to get the attention it deserved.

By protesting and marching it sends a message to the law enforcement, judges and district attorneys that they cannot continue to do the things that have traditionally gone in down there. At least, that is their hope. I don't know if I can blame them.

Can you? I'd love to hear a counter point to this.

ne0 09-24-2007 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 13132755)
You are right. Our system is fucked. There are so many things wrong with it we don't even know were to begin to look for a change most of the time.

This case is one where it is clear that a part of the legal system needs to be changed. Al Sharpton and his like have cried wolf a lot of times so a lot of people are having knee jerk reactions about why people are protesting based on his involvement. Lots of of folks are saying the negros are just rabble rousing.

Well, that's not true here. This isn't about getting those boys off of the hook. It's not about punishing the white guys. The protesters are there because parts of the south has to be prodded into coming into the 21st century. They want a truly fair, balanced and EQUAL justice system. It took this case for that issue to get the attention it deserved.

By protesting and marching it sends a message to the law enforcement, judges and district attorneys that they cannot continue to do the things that have traditionally gone in down there. At least, that is their hope. I don't know if I can blame them.

Can you? I'd love to hear a counter point to this.

I don't blame them. It's cool to fight about freedom and all, I think if people marched/protested more we would live in a better world.
Racism is a pretty hard subject, if you stop and think, slavery still existed a few years ago... not everyone is open minded, and this is why shit starts to hit the fan.
Some people still think that black people are the scum, and some black people like to think they are being taken as scum, so they can always win discussions by saying you're just blaming them for shit because you're a racist.

I will tell you a fucked up history, it happened back in brazil.
I was walking with a friend of mine and a group of negros appeared and started to ask why my friend looked at their eyes. I was like, wtf?
and they continued, saying they were from the hood and they deserved respect, that we were playboys, and now we should give them everything we had.
the dude stole my friends hat. and told him not to look back or try to recover his hat.
when we got home my friend was asked by his mom where was his hat, and he said that it was stolen by this black dude.
his mom happened to know the other dude's mom, and went to his house, when she got there the guy told her that he stole the hat because we were racists with him and called him names.

Ok, now, how does that give you the right to steal? Or threat someone?
In the end we ended up looking bad, even though we didn't do shit, they just hit a taboo, and this is what is happening now.

Anti racism campaigns are everywhere, in the sports, on your tv and newspaper, magazines, but it happens, and will always happen, as long as you have different races, it's not just a black/white thing.

spacedog 09-24-2007 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 13132719)
Now, do you think attempted murder fits the crime?

Yes it does..

6 people repeatedly kicking an unconscious person in the face/head IS attempted murder.


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