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Old 09-20-2007, 05:45 PM   #51
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am i the only one that doesnt understandd what alienq is ssmoking to get these 'facts' from?

i sure hope not, or this industry is in for deep shit
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:47 PM   #52
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just to prove alienq wron and make him look stupid

processing is les than 7% i wont give exact figure here
model gets less than 35% i wont give exact figure here
affiliates get pps not revshare...

15% for promo material? LOL its already made you dipshit
hosting? there is no hosting bill, it comes with the site, all you are hosting is an affiliate program you fucking moron. the models are streaming from their home and the site isnt een hosted by me, its hosted by streamamte.

so much for assumptions eh alien?
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:51 PM   #53
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so you are selling a 200k streamate white label?
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I was kind of thinking... anybody paying 15% of company gross or net for promotional materials is pretty much a moron. That's a one-time thing. Or you could even be adventurous and have new materials made every month for $500... and that would get you quite a bit. If $500 is 15% of gross or net... you have much more important problems to take care of then worry about promotional materials.
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I was kind of thinking... anybody paying 15% of company gross or net for promotional materials is pretty much a moron. That's a one-time thing. Or you could even be adventurous and have new materials made every month for $500... and that would get you quite a bit. If $500 is 15% of gross or net... you have much more important problems to take care of then worry about promotional materials.
exactly, I cant beleive how stupid this guy alienq is LOL

he just makes it up as he goes along...

last year he sucked cock and this year he is bill gates and a mind reader... go figure
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just to prove alienq wron and make him look stupid

processing is les than 7% i wont give exact figure here
model gets less than 35% i wont give exact figure here
affiliates get pps not revshare...

15% for promo material? LOL its already made you dipshit
hosting? there is no hosting bill, it comes with the site, all you are hosting is an affiliate program you fucking moron. the models are streaming from their home and the site isnt een hosted by me, its hosted by streamamte.

so much for assumptions eh alien?
model gets less than 35 percent then I cant see you having lots of models.
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Alienq - I wasn't assuming you didn't have contacts - I know you're history
What I meant was if it was as simple and cheap as you say, then I think there would be a plathora of affiliates that would have stepped up to the plate ages ago and would have bypassed sponsors and opened up their own operation rather than send through a sponsor.

Honestly - I have no reason to kiss pimpdogg's ass - I'm just here cuz it's been fun seeing him tip the dram-o-meter today - but I can tell you that of all the cam sponsors I've promoted, EpicCams was the one that converted the best for me - so obviously, even if we don't want to give him credit for anything ;), I could say that his company must have been doing something right and with the right person, it's possible that the same success can be replicated. Now whether it's worth a 100k investment? I don't know - but I'd assume that the person who is interested would ask more details, in private, about what this investment is for.
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model gets less than 35 percent then I cant see you having lots of models.
look at the site. am i missing something here? there are over 300 models online right now atleast.
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Alienq - I wasn't assuming you didn't have contacts - I know you're history
What I meant was if it was as simple and cheap as you say, then I think there would be a plathora of affiliates that would have stepped up to the plate ages ago and would have bypassed sponsors and opened up their own operation rather than send through a sponsor.

Honestly - I have no reason to kiss pimpdogg's ass - I'm just here cuz it's been fun seeing him tip the dram-o-meter today - but I can tell you that of all the cam sponsors I've promoted, EpicCams was the one that converted the best for me - so obviously, even if we don't want to give him credit for anything ;), I could say that his company must have been doing something right and with the right person, it's possible that the same success can be replicated. Now whether it's worth a 100k investment? I don't know - but I'd assume that the person who is interested would ask more details, in private, about what this investment is for.

I am not seeking 100k, I am seeking a person that has skills and something to bring to the table to get the site successful.... money is the last thing i want from a partner, because it can only take you far. the abilit to get traffic and make deals is what I want from aprtner etc etc...

thanks for the epiccams comment, glad we did well for you
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Alienq - I wasn't assuming you didn't have contacts - I know you're history
What I meant was if it was as simple and cheap as you say, then I think there would be a plathora of affiliates that would have stepped up to the plate ages ago and would have bypassed sponsors and opened up their own operation rather than send through a sponsor.
Nothing that's great is ever easy... if it were easy, everyone would be doing it and then it wouldn't be all that great.

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id have to say that mr alienQ got his ass owned in this thread pretty good.

fuck off prick ;)
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Nothing that's great is ever easy... if it were easy, everyone would be doing it and then it wouldn't be all that great.

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Cops' bias unit probing attack on college team

BY CHRISTINA BOYLE
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Thursday, September 20th 2007, 4:00 AM


The NYPD hate crimes unit will investigate the brutal attack on a college basketball team and two coaches, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said yesterday.

Kelly weighed into the furor surrounding the violent beating of the Manhattan Community College sports team after community leaders blasted the NYPD's failure to report the incident as a racial attack.

"I'm told at no time did either side make any statements concerning race, as far as it being racially motivated," Kelly said.

"What we have done as a result of the [Daily News] article written today is engage our hate crimes task force to do an investigation of this matter."

The players say they were set upon by a gang of white men as they headed home on Sept. 11 from a four-hour practice at the lower Manhattan school.

As the students passed the Patriot, a rowdy Chambers St. bar, they were bombarded with racist shouts of "n-----s" and "this is what slavery feels like," the players say.

One person in the group, Marquis Scott, 18, says he was thrown into the middle of the street, jumped on and kicked.

Police arrived and immediately handcuffed Scott, the son of an NYPD officer, and charged him with misdemeanor assault while letting the assailants go, he said.

The team called its coach, Chester Mapp. Mapp and an assistant coach followed the students to the Brooklyn Bridge subway station, where the students and the coaches were attacked, Mapp said.

"I'm very shook up, nervous, kind of scared," Mapp said.

Scott's lawyer Bonita Zelman was joined by City Councilman Charles Barron (D-Brooklyn) and Roger Abel of the National Black Police Association in urging Kelly to call the attack a hate crime.

Five people have been arrested in the case; four of the five are Manhattan Community College students, Kelly said.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:28 PM   #65
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wow, im kinda disappointed that there is noone interested in this idea that has some traffic and/or resources to partner up on a sure thing.

maybe there are just allot of big talkers on here that dont have 2 nickles to rub together. maybe my expectations were to high?

i dont know.. guess I will have to approach this another way. It would be a shame to see a site that is alredy 100% complete and ready to rock go to waste.
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I would rather not, but if it got approved by them, yea i would.

i would much rather partner with someone who had some skillz.

and i already know what your reply is going to be so save it, you think 200k is a rip off.

well, all I can say is, try starting your own cam program and get it off the ground and actually get more than 100 models to stay online.

then come tell me how much of a rip off 200k is.


this site is a TURNKEY camsite that can be a money making machine like epic cams has been for epiccash.l
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i couldnt go to them and get a white label?

and im sure i could go to cams and get 1.
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i couldnt go to them and get a white label?

and im sure i could go to cams and get 1.
no you couldnt, they arent allowing anymore.

and yes, you could goto cams.com and get 1.. everyone and their mother has a cams.com white label site in their members area LOL

and they have a totally differnt system than this.

go to cams.com and get one, knock yourself out, you wont make as much with this as you would with them. i know you send your traffic to clickcash, so why even bring up cams.com ? mybe clickcash will give you a white label site... heh
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no you couldnt, they arent allowing anymore.
I wonder, why? Who doesn't love more business?



I might be interested in this, but instead of asking others to put offer on table can you tell what is your offer?
What % of total sales you are giving someone who will run the whole program? And if you are taking some % and leaving rest to the partner, what % you forecast that your partner will be able to get? I mean after the cuts.
Who will be the owner of the business after it start making money?



ps. I saw another thread that its sold for 20k, is that right or its still available?
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I wonder, why? Who doesn't love more business?



I might be interested in this, but instead of asking others to put offer on table can you tell what is your offer?
What % of total sales you are giving someone who will run the whole program? And if you are taking some % and leaving rest to the partner, what % you forecast that your partner will be able to get? I mean after the cuts.
Who will be the owner of the business after it start making money?



ps. I saw another thread that its sold for 20k, is that right or its still available?

vick, I am just fucking with roger, putting him in his place. he doesnt have 20k to spend on a new heart let alone a new program for him to fuck up.

whats my offer?
i think i have already stated it.

i am willing to give up 49% of my cut of the site to a aprtner that has soemthing to bring to the table.

sales, traffic, money, connections. whatever.

its a 51/49 split. i maintain control, but all that means is that i have final say in decissions. but I am also a pretty easy guy to work with.

if you send 100 sales, and they make us 10k, then you get 4900 and i get 5100

follow?

its a stright up partnership.
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i am willing to give up 49% of my cut of the site to a aprtner that has soemthing to bring to the table.
Seems fair. But after the partner has managed to make a strong affiliates base, steady traffic to the site and of course steady income. You will still be the sole owner of the site? And what if you decide to sell the business?

Plus, is it possible to switch the whole thing to new domain, instead of camkings?
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Seems fair. But after the partner has managed to make a strong affiliates base, steady traffic to the site and of course steady income. You will still be the sole owner of the site? And what if you decide to sell the business?

Plus, is it possible to switch the whole thing to new domain, instead of camkings?
the site is already branded and designed for camkings.. its a good domain that is very brandable

if the site is making good money I woul;d not sell it, and if soemthing came up where I had to sell it, you would have first chance to pick it up, but there will be acontract involved, and we an always write in a stipulation where I cannot sell it without your censent etc.
Im open to negociate whatever terms, but again, it must be worth it to me and my time. I will always obtain ultimate control, but again, im easy to work with. aslong as its making money, I dont care what you do. aslong as its legal and legit and no screwing anyone over.

why would you want to switch over the domain, just curious?
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Trixxia is it simple

Thats why I am laughing about all this.

Listen contact a CAM Privider with a good base of CAM girls.
Offer to create the site promote and promote the site, work out a deal with the very CAM provider there are several of them.

Work out the processing with them, they will be more than glad that you put the transaction burdon on your own company.

Take the cam provider CODE snippets such that the cams are dynamically placed on display pages, many cam providers already have this ready for you.

The CAM provider is able to verify usage by the software on cam girls client software. Each month numbers match up for time and money and so forth.
You send the provider a check every month and keep the rest.

Maybe a little modification here and there in navigation by categories what have you customise it some, infact you could prolly get the scripts from cam providers with ease and customise it yerself or have someone else do it.

Now...

I just saved you about oh...
20K.

So send me 10K and use the other 10K for a very generous development of a new CAM site. Hell you could prolly do it for less than 5K so send me 2K

Thanks.

Keep in mind many differ providers do different things but along those lines and ya can be sitting pretty. WITHOUT A PARTNER!

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Seems fair. But after the partner has managed to make a strong affiliates base, steady traffic to the site and of course steady income. You will still be the sole owner of the site? And what if you decide to sell the business?

Plus, is it possible to switch the whole thing to new domain, instead of camkings?
I'm assuming there would be contracts involved. You don't need to worry about those things. Somebody can't "just sell" or destroy the company.
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why do you need to sell 49% of it, i thought you were a millionaire



Anyone with half a brain would know why he would sell 49%.. Why? Ok, let me explain for the lower braincell humans.

he sells 49% which means that he still retains 51% ownership. So what?? With 51% ownership it still makes HIM the one in charge. He makes the rules while still making loads of $ without much work. Understand now? Come on, this should be common knowledge. You don't need a business degree or some other shit to figure that out. Hell, I don't even have a high school diploma.
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Trixxia is it simple

Thats why I am laughing about all this.

Listen contact a CAM Privider with a good base of CAM girls.
Offer to create the site promote and promote the site, work out a deal with the very CAM provider there are several of them.

Work out the processing with them, they will be more than glad that you put the transaction burdon on your own company.

Take the cam provider CODE snippets such that the cams are dynamically placed on display pages, many cam providers already have this ready for you.

The CAM provider is able to verify usage by the software on cam girls client software. Each month numbers match up for time and money and so forth.
You send the provider a check every month and keep the rest.

Maybe a little modification here and there in navigation by categories what have you customise it some, infact you could prolly get the scripts from cam providers with ease and customise it yerself or have someone else do it.

Now...

I just saved you about oh...
20K.

So send me 10K and use the other 10K for a very generous development of a new CAM site. Hell you could prolly do it for less than 5K so send me 2K

Thanks.

Keep in mind many differ providers do different things but along those lines and ya can be sitting pretty. WITHOUT A PARTNER!
I'm not interested in it - BUT I do know someone that went the route you mention and the outcome wasn't exactly the same result

Also - he has stated that he's not looking for a financial investment in particular - it could be contacts/traffic or otherwise.

**Not saying it's a good deal or a bad one - but with someone who's got the contacts and is looking for a break (without financial investment) it may be their answer**
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I'm not interested in it - BUT I do know someone that went the route you mention and the outcome wasn't exactly the same result

Also - he has stated that he's not looking for a financial investment in particular - it could be contacts/traffic or otherwise.

**Not saying it's a good deal or a bad one - but with someone who's got the contacts and is looking for a break (without financial investment) it may be their answer**
i like you.

you get it.
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you get it.
Oh please - Where's the real pimpdogg? hehehe LMAO
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:10 PM   #81
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Interesting, for SOME people this could be interesting.
I wouldnt hit it though, initial work / investment means nothing if there is no ongoing commitment to the project
It could be good for someone that do not have the financial backing to "prepay" for signups, various promotions etc etc (I asume that is what pimpdog is offering is his deal)
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Old 09-21-2007, 01:42 AM   #82
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Interesting, for SOME people this could be interesting.
I wouldnt hit it though, initial work / investment means nothing if there is no ongoing commitment to the project
It could be good for someone that do not have the financial backing to "prepay" for signups, various promotions etc etc (I asume that is what pimpdog is offering is his deal)
ut-oh, we got a little cocky one, but pretty right on the money.....

is there hope for mankind afterall?
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:12 AM   #83
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model gets less than 35 percent then I cant see you having lots of models.
Trey is going to do it himself. After all, he is used to being gay cam model.
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:16 AM   #84
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Anyone is thinking about partnering up with pimpdog needs to go get their head checked.

This conman will rob you blind.
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Old 09-21-2007, 04:52 AM   #85
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Anyone is thinking about partnering up with pimpdog needs to go get their head checked.

This conman will rob you blind.
heh.. your nickname says it all.

kind of hard for me to rob anyone blind when I will have a joint bank account with my partner. and a legally binding contract.
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Old 09-21-2007, 04:59 AM   #86
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Anyone with half a brain would know why he would sell 49%.. Why? Ok, let me explain for the lower braincell humans.

he sells 49% which means that he still retains 51% ownership. So what?? With 51% ownership it still makes HIM the one in charge. He makes the rules while still making loads of $ without much work. Understand now? Come on, this should be common knowledge. You don't need a business degree or some other shit to figure that out. Hell, I don't even have a high school diploma.
You missed the part where he gets 49% less profit.
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:46 AM   #87
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no you couldnt, they arent allowing anymore.

and yes, you could goto cams.com and get 1.. everyone and their mother has a cams.com white label site in their members area LOL

and they have a totally differnt system than this.

go to cams.com and get one, knock yourself out, you wont make as much with this as you would with them. i know you send your traffic to clickcash, so why even bring up cams.com ? mybe clickcash will give you a white label site... heh
When did streamate tell you they weren't allowing anymore? I was in talks with them this summer, they are open to talk to anyone if you have the traffic and a history of a large amount of sales with them. Why is there all this talk of getting models, the backend is already supplied by streamate. Best thing you are offering Trey is the affiliate program all ready to go, if nobody is interested in your partnership deal why not just open the affiliate program up and get some traffic and sales coming in.
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When did streamate tell you they weren't allowing anymore? I was in talks with them this summer, they are open to talk to anyone if you have the traffic and a history of a large amount of sales with them. Why is there all this talk of getting models, the backend is already supplied by streamate. Best thing you are offering Trey is the affiliate program all ready to go, if nobody is interested in your partnership deal why not just open the affiliate program up and get some traffic and sales coming in.
then do it... lets se if you get the deal done and up and running. they said large amount of sales and traffic. w/history, so you need to prove it.

i know there are very few that can meet their criteria.
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Racism against Native Americans
Native Americans in the United States
Hundreds of native peoples comprising millions of individuals occupied the territories that would become the United States of America. During the colonial and independent periods, a long series of Indian Wars were fought with the primary objective of obtaining much of North America as territory of the U.S. Through wars, massacre, the intentional and unintentional spread of disease, forced displacement (such as in the Trail of Tears), restriction of food rights, and the imposition of treaties, land was taken and numerous hardships imposed. Ideologies justifying the context included stereotypes of Native Americans as "merciless Indian savages" (as described in the United States Declaration of Independence) and the quasi-religious doctrine of Manifest Destiny which asserted divine blessing for U.S. conquest of all lands west of the Atlantic seaboard to the Pacific. The most rapid invasion occurred in the California gold rush, the first two years of which saw the deaths of tens of thousands of Indians. Following the 1848 American invasion, Native Californians were enslaved in the new state from statehood in 1850 to 1867.

Military and civil resistance by Native Americans has been a constant feature of American history. So too have a variety of debates around issues of sovereignty, the upholding of treaty provisions, and the civil rights of Native Americans under U.S. law.


Discrimination, marginalization
Once their territories were incorporated into the United States, surviving Native Americans were denied equality before the law and often treated as wards of the state. Many Native Americans were relegated to reservations--constituting just 4% of U.S. territory--and the treaties signed with them violated. Tens of thousands of American Indians and Alaska Natives were forced to attend a residential school system which sought to reeducate them in white settler American values, culture and economy--to "kill the Indian, sav[ing] the man."

Further dispossession continued through concessions for industries such as oil, mining and timber and through division of land through legislation such as the Allotment Act. These concessions have raised problems of consent, exploitation of low royalty rates, environmental injustice, and gross mismanagement of funds held in trust, resulting in the loss of $10-40 billion. The Worldwatch Institute notes that 317 reservations are threatened by environmental hazards, while Western Shoshone land has been subjected to more than 1,000 nuclear explosions.

While formal equality has been legally granted, American Indians, Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, and Pacific Islanders remain among the most economically disadvantaged groups in the country, and suffer from high levels of alcoholism and suicide.
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So how long before people catch on that woodsix is a blog post posting bot?

wikibot?
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So how long before people catch on that woodsix is a blog post posting bot?

wikibot?

i just told ICE about it, if he doesnt ban it, then we know its gfy thats caussign the problem
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then do it... lets se if you get the deal done and up and running. they said large amount of sales and traffic. w/history, so you need to prove it.

i know there are very few that can meet their criteria.
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happy yom kippur pimpdogg u fag
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yea like that is yours.

dont be a moron. i now you dont have the sales or traffic to own a skin.

there are only a handfull of afifliate programs that have a skin.

nastydollars, wegcash and a couple others.
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:24 AM   #95
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yea like that is yours.

dont be a moron. i now you dont have the sales or traffic to own a skin.

there are only a handfull of afifliate programs that have a skin.

nastydollars, wegcash and a couple others.
There's now over 10 sponsor programs using the streamate cobrand as well as bunch of large affiliates with a cobrand. Once again your wrong, as an affiliate I've sent mtree tens of thousands of cam sales over the years.
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There's now over 10 sponsor programs using the streamate cobrand as well as bunch of large affiliates with a cobrand. Once again your wrong, as an affiliate I've sent mtree tens of thousands of cam sales over the years.
the why are you bitching here and not ddoing it yourself?

bnecause you cant get a skin. that is why.

clealry this deal isnt for you. if anyone can go out and do this, then why arent they?

go away.
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:30 AM   #97
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the why are you bitching here and not ddoing it yourself?

bnecause you cant get a skin. that is why.

clealry this deal isnt for you. if anyone can go out and do this, then why arent they?

go away.
Do you even read, where in the hell did I bitch in this thread? I didn't say anyone could go and do this, once again read. I merely suggested you open up the program to new affiliates and start generating some interest and sales which will make a partnership or program sale much more attractive.
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Do you even read, where in the hell did I bitch in this thread? I didn't say anyone could go and do this, once again read. I merely suggested you open up the program to new affiliates and start generating some interest and sales which will make a partnership or program sale much more attractive.
becuase i do not need to.

i already have allot of interest from others. i been getting hit up all night and today about this.

thank you for the advice though.
go fuck yourself now.
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thank you for the advice though.
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Great, good luck on the sale.
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thank you for the advice though.
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Great, good luck on the sale.
was expecting more of a shitty reply. whats wrong with you?
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