Here are mine... sales per unique hits. This doesn't really mean they aren't good, I could just be promoting them in less targeted areas.

Some solo girl sponsors in ccbill but I'm too lazy to look - 1:5900
Niche Money - 1:3756
Nasty Dollars - 1:2196
ARS - 1:1497

Best sponsor:
AEBN - you should click here to promote them.
I convert 1:11 and make $2.76 per unique on very targeted traffic.

Cool man happy that Incredibledollars is doing good for you! :)

Glenn ka Thebossxxx

Call me old fashioned but the usual rule of thumb is the higher the payout the worse the conversion. My worst one is ARS 0: 3 yrs! I still promote them though

my made in porn ratios were something around 0:2000.

Call me old fashioned but the usual rule of thumb is the higher the payout the worse the conversion. My worst one is ARS 0: 3 yrs! I still promote them though

I had similar ratios with Realsexcash.

I'd like to retract my statement. Adult Gold Vault delivers!
very first day at AGV: 144 122 2 1:61 $50.00

holly molly:warning

Well while we are at it, do my fellow TGP owners prefer CCBill or NATS? I think some affiliates are shady. A small percentage. I think everyone else works their asses off trying to make their concepts fly. I see it from both sides, as I also have an affiliate program for my footsite. The world of online adult entertainment is a strange thing indeed. I personally like scorecash, bangbros and Traffic cash gold though.

True, but I would say, that there's a difference between random 404 traffic and clicked blog traffic. In the last case, the surfer clicked on a pictured he liked which pre-saled him. The surfer WANTED more information. With 404 traffic, he gets just something thrown at his face he might not want to see.

Ratios depend on so much..for example, one of the ones mentioned by Jace - Real Sex Cash - I do pretty well with them. Perhaps it is that I target the Britishness of their sites or something like that...it all depends on a number of things.

For sure blogs are better than straight up 404's and forced redirects to tours, but plenty of established TGPs and freesites can kick the shit out of blogs in terms of quality traffic and more importantly, actual revenue. But most people think they can start a blog with cookie cutter entries, sprinkle in SE keywords and shitty RSS entries and make easy money. They target sologirl names/basic terms/etc and don't provide something to SELL the product once the surfer gets there. The idea that someone comes through and joins a site off a basic search and non-interesting entry is extremely naive.



It is funny when people bitch when they have no idea on how to make money in the business in the first place. Very few will ever know who is the best sponsor for them, and in most cases, it wouldn't matter. Their sites and methods are not creating BUYERS for the products they are trying to sell. This is a byproduct of having little time to understand the business and doing it as little more than a hobby. They do not have the time and ability to analyze their traffic effectively because they are building half-assed sites giving away too much for nothing, then moving on when it's not working instead of understanding WHY.


The ignorance is astounding, since many affiliates that DO NOT KNOW HOW THEIR SPONSOR COUNTS THEIR TRAFFIC. Not a fuckin' clue, though they like to pretend they know. But at the end of the day it is easier to blame sponsors instead of getting better at your craft.


But all those things come from time and experience, and understanding as the market changes. Few stick around long enough in the business to really know shit, and it shows. :)

I say that it is hard to deal with alot of the smaller companies that use ccbill and not nats because of them skimming their affl. I stopped promoting anyone who used soley CCbill for right now because I got burnt too many times. I know for a fact that traffic was being sent but CCBill had nothing under my stats.

I know that alot of the bigger companies like juggcash and bangbros are oversaturated but ppl also dont want to send out alot of traffic and get burned. I mean it could really happen either way but with the bigger sites there is a smaller chance..

spookycash sucks dick

I know what you're talking about. It's the difference between throwing traffic at a site and hoping to make a sale vs actually trying to sell a site. Unfortunately, Blog traffic comes so slowly, that it's hard to actually analyze anything because of low numbers.

Guess that's why so many people are throwing shit against the wall to see what stickes.

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The programs spamming in this thread are fucking hilarious.

I'm surprised there aren't people trying to shake down newb webmasters as 'consultants'. But most affiliates don't have capital (or a penny to their name) anyways to pay for it, hence the trade off of fhgs/free hosting/free content/free tools/free submitter/ embedded movies/ free etc to try to build an affiliate sales work force.


But most programs are as desperate and clueless as the people trying to promote them. The herd will be thinning quite a bit of over the next 18 months... it will be sink or swim for for programs of all sizes. You'd be surprised at the programs claiming to be ballers here on GFY that are currently for sale.

I've seen once or twice Braincash on the first page. I strongly suggest people that are not satisfied with their Braincash ratios to contact me or Cindy.

-Are you sure you're promoting the best sites foi the traffic you have?

-We will take a look at what you promote and from where and will suggest changes to improve your ratios.

-We will look for individual customized solution.

-We will reward your traffic for what its worth.

What is important to know is we have sites that convert more than very well. Make sure you promote them:thumbsup

This is 2004, a good year
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This is 2007, a bad year
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So this is my worst ratio dropdown with 1 sponsor.
The rest is up to the roof

One can expect some of these sponsors to come in here and defend their programs. I mean... they'd look foolish if they didn't. However, to come in here and blame an affiliate's traffic or criticize their promotional activities is just ignorant. Yes.. there are a lot of affiliates who don't understand the business, niche marketing, pricing, targeted branding...etc.... but there are also a lot of sponsors who don't have a clue as well.. thus the bad ratios. You guys with the shitty ratios need to look at your own programs and stop being so quick to jump down the affiliate's throat.

More sponsors are not working on a update on their affiliate area!!
Both should meet in the middle and discusse perfect promotion tools.

Adult webmaster with years of experience should have a work shop in a sponsor companie, they will learn from eachother very valueble things when they are agreed to do this to finetune a program.

A sponsor is in need of knowledge the adult webmaster of today works with.

Some real crazy ratios in here. :Oh crap

Yo man, Ihave 2 new sites coming out and I will give you the first shot if you want.

Hit me up if you have time or I will try to find you today.

-CHris

BULLSHIT!!

most of the sponsors being named here use NATS!

CCBILL converts great!

CCCBill is one of the best companies out there. Honest, dependable, you name it.

they dont care about affiliates.

People should email their programs and include a sample URL that they feel underperformed. Include traffic source(s) you were trying to match up with and ask for specific advice. Ask what paysite to promote in a niche if there are multiple choices.

It's not a matter of choosing to focus on the affiiates efforts *instead of* anything else. It's the process of elimination with the affiliates marketing as the final step. The sponsor already knows at a glance if there are, or ever were, any technical difficulties with a paysite as well as it's overall ratio across all traffic sources. Once thats known, where else should the sponsor focus but the marketing and advertising efforts of the one individual? Without successful affiliates, a program is nothing. Dont forget that. Ever.

1. quality vs quantity
2. filtering
3. niche traff to niche sponsor

the guys with the 0:20k and 1:50k etc, have you tried filtering your traffic? or do you just smash thousands of general clicks to any which sponsor?

It's interesting to see most big sponsors listed but I wonder why those companies are big if you all guys do that bad with them :2 cents:

who is spamming? all looks on topic to me....oh i understand your pissed there is a thread about business....I understand that business theads are kinda out of place on this board anymore...

that's why so many sponsors jump to nats.
they all know how to use it!

Business thread eh?


I could easily push 1k useless uniques a day to hillbillydollars that I know 100% would not convert, just to come here in a month and say "HILLBILLY DOLLARS doesn't not convert!!!!! OMG 0:30k on UNIQUES!!!!!!! WORST SPONSOR EVER!!!!!!!!!"

or I could go the raw route, which would be in the neighborhood of 0:45k


Sound like a good plan? :winkwink:


I was just in a mood to help educate the uneducated, but that feeling has passed now.

now this i understand but the spamming comment i don't

Some do.. some don't. It seems that the sponsors who have really stellar customer service are always the ones who I do the worst at. Additionally, a lot of them simply shoot themselves in the feet by shaving sales (Royal Cash) or have a total lack of communication on all fronts (Teen Dolls). In any event.. that's just the way this fucked up industry is so I just take it as the shit is dished out.

just wait till scottybuzz cash launches, u will see ratios of 10:1

Hit me up and lets see why your ratios and not doing better

Good advice imho PR_Tom :)

Cool.. I'll hit you up in a few hours.. got to head out & run some errands..
I'm willing to work to change my ratio, so we can chat & see what I can do to make it work..

348-132-803.. I'll be available in a few hours

Wow, Biohazard Bitches is the best converting site for the niche for me, and I promote them all...

Maybe if you had a hardcore site :thumbsup