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V_RocKs 09-16-2007 12:51 AM

Silver Cash 1:7606
StarlightBucks 0:16,967!!!
SPACash 1:3446
Platinum Bucks 1:3672
Hush Money 1:3308
Jason&Alex 1:2774

The other side of the spectrum:
Quick Buck 1:145
Nasty Dollars 1:708 (and people say they are too saturated?)
Incredible Dollars 1:411
Diesel Action 1:429
Pride Bucks 1:435 (They're gay. They convert... They make me proud)
Kinky Dollars 1:564
Pimp Roll 1:603
Bang Bros Online 1:657 (Again... Saturated? I think not...)
Lightspeed 1:692 (100% rebill! As in, make 200 sales, get 200 rebills)

CyberHustler 09-16-2007 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 13094096)
Nasty Dollars 1:708 (and people say they are too saturated?)
Bang Bros Online 1:657 (Again... Saturated? I think not...)


They ARE saturated, but they ROCK!

Miguel 09-16-2007 01:39 AM

unfucking believable ratios!

Zuss 09-16-2007 02:17 AM

Quote:

Real Sex Cash
0:18,530

I stopped promoting them after about a month, but there are blog posts still up somewhere
My realsexcash experience is similiar...

I'm just at 0:7830 though...

After Shock Media 09-16-2007 02:28 AM

Bad ratios are very easy to get though. It often boils down to that particular webmaster, their sites, how they promote, traffic sources, etc.

If I am doing gallery crap 1:2500 is fine with me, hell its expected.
If I am really filtering it and it skips all pre made material and goes direct to join, anything more than 1:25 and I would be wondering whats up.
If I am tossing my random or crap traffic at shit 1:15k is nothing abnormal.

However there is something to be said about a few listed. Some just um lets just say they do not convert :winkwink:

commonsense 09-16-2007 04:18 AM

Those of you with 0:4000+ should qualify your answers with the type of traffic and time period. Huge difference in 1:5000 over 1 day vs. a few hits a day over 2 years. Also mention if you've EVER had a sale. I'll have a good :1orglaugh at the guys redirecting 404's straight to tours or auto-redirects and wondering why those clicks aren't converting into $


I won't even bring up the comparisons of sponsors who count 2nd/qualified/join page hits vs. first page raw/uniques..... o.k. I just did ;) Worse yet are those of you that are like "OMG.. i'm like 1:XXX with (some sponsor that counts qualified uniques)... WOW!!!!!!!!"

Keep on' spreading that misinformation :upsidedow

AGS-17 09-16-2007 04:21 AM

my best and worst are SEXCASH!!

SkeetSkeet 09-16-2007 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 13094096)
Silver Cash 1:7606
StarlightBucks 0:16,967!!!
SPACash 1:3446
Platinum Bucks 1:3672
Hush Money 1:3308
Jason&Alex 1:2774

The other side of the spectrum:
Quick Buck 1:145
Nasty Dollars 1:708 (and people say they are too saturated?)
Incredible Dollars 1:411
Diesel Action 1:429
Pride Bucks 1:435 (They're gay. They convert... They make me proud)
Kinky Dollars 1:564
Pimp Roll 1:603
Bang Bros Online 1:657 (Again... Saturated? I think not...)
Lightspeed 1:692 (100% rebill! As in, make 200 sales, get 200 rebills)

StarlightBucks 0:16,967!!!

First off that's Raw, not unique, which 0:3612 which is still not good though. But either way hit me up and let's see if we can't get that down a good bit lower ;)

Quick Buck 09-16-2007 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 13094096)
Silver Cash 1:7606
StarlightBucks 0:16,967!!!
SPACash 1:3446
Platinum Bucks 1:3672
Hush Money 1:3308
Jason&Alex 1:2774

The other side of the spectrum:
Quick Buck 1:145
Nasty Dollars 1:708 (and people say they are too saturated?)
Incredible Dollars 1:411
Diesel Action 1:429
Pride Bucks 1:435 (They're gay. They convert... They make me proud)
Kinky Dollars 1:564
Pimp Roll 1:603
Bang Bros Online 1:657 (Again... Saturated? I think not...)
Lightspeed 1:692 (100% rebill! As in, make 200 sales, get 200 rebills)

Glad to see we're doing well for you. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/images.../xyxthumbs.gif

V_RocKs 09-16-2007 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkeetSkeet (Post 13094593)
StarlightBucks 0:16,967!!!

First off that's Raw, not unique, which 0:3612 which is still not good though. But either way hit me up and let's see if we can't get that down a good bit lower ;)

Ahh... Rigth you are!

As for anything you can do... These are hits that type in your websites name and then get sent directly to your website... so the only thing that can be done is to make your website convert better.

loreen 09-16-2007 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 13092456)
AwEmpire 0:7000+

I second that.

Zuss 09-16-2007 06:34 AM

Quote:

Keep on' spreading that misinformation
My clicks are from Blogs.

tenletters 09-16-2007 07:32 AM

my worst ratio was with panchodog... was something over 1:45000 last time I looked (sometime last year). Since I've not gotten a check from them I'll assume I'm 1:100,000+ by now, lol. Maybe only my korean traffic was interested in clicking the pancho links.

best ratio is with fling at around 1:150 (though I do worse when I push more traffic to them so I rarely make much bling there)

V_RocKs 09-16-2007 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 13094692)
Ahh... Rigth you are!

As for anything you can do... These are hits that type in your websites name and then get sent directly to your website... so the only thing that can be done is to make your website convert better.


Boy was I wrong... Thanks SkeetSkeet for hooking me up and giving me some insider info!

Wizzo 09-16-2007 08:09 AM

You guys should have used MayorsMoney... :pimp

HXMGP 09-16-2007 09:01 AM

Yeah but I've used MayorsMoney and I don't see anything more special with your program over others.

swampthing 09-16-2007 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HXMGP (Post 13093798)
I think all these poor ratios boil down to using the standard overpromoted tours from the sponsors. What you need to do is get creative and make your own custom tours instead of using the sponsor ones. That's what I do, but then again I'm very creative and my tours $ell :)

well why dont you just get real creative and build a whole site and members area and shoot all the content for it, and give it a more inviting name? Shit that thats what I do, but hell im more creative then you are.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

swampthing 09-16-2007 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 13093006)
It's all relative to you knowing how to sell it and your traffic.

Otherwise how does one guy do 1:162 and another do 1:9382 (or worse) on a regular basis?

that may be the case for some, but when you convert great with 95% of the rest of what you sell, that certainly throws up red flags.

swampthing 09-16-2007 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HXMGP (Post 13095014)
Yeah but I've used MayorsMoney and I don't see anything more special with your program over others.

believe it or not..

mayors money 1:190 for me

ridikuloz 09-16-2007 09:24 AM

yeah mayors money = :thumbsup

swampthing 09-16-2007 09:26 AM

the best converting site.....

lightspeedcash 1:77

thonglife 09-16-2007 09:38 AM

Quote:

my worst ratio was with panchodog... was something over 1:45000 last time I looked (sometime last year). Since I've not gotten a check from them I'll assume I'm 1:100,000+ by now, lol. Maybe only my korean traffic was interested in clicking the pancho links.
I think something is fucked with their click tracking. I always have qualified clicks to hosted galleries I don't have published on any of my sites. :1orglaugh

commonsense 09-16-2007 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuss (Post 13094733)
My clicks are from Blogs.

Thank you for being more detailed.


Nothing personal but just because it's blog traffic doesn't mean it's going to sell a product or be productive. I have a few blogs with custom entries and seeing 0:10k, 1:10k, 1:5k, 1:3k is not uncommon. I love it when people complain about ratios, and yet they've NEVER made a single sale. I'm not saying this is you, just a basic statement. They don't know how to sell a site and expect everyone clicking their link (providing they are real surfers and not bots or unbillable traffic) to purchase.


Not to mention the stupidity of even looking at the ratio, instead of the $ earned per click. I'd rather have a revshare sponsor that converts 1:2000 and keeps members for 3+ months than one that converts 1:1000 and NEVER rebills. And that's assuming the membership prices are the same. I'd imagine a good portion of the 'webmasters' here have never seen the join pages of the sites they're trying to sell or know how much the sites are retailing for.


I think the best way to improve your ratios is to bitch on message boards and post your 'shitty' stats. It's especially effective if you have lots of posts and an early join date on the board. No program wants to look bad and maybe they'll reverse shave you to make your figures look good. They know (especially the big guys) that newbs and easily influenced webmasters are hoping someone will throw them the magical 'bone' on how to make money in the business. :winkwink:

BAKO 09-16-2007 09:52 AM

I just promote fling.com 1:170 all year long

Pinacolada 09-16-2007 10:04 AM

KellyCash suck 1:2610 for targeted SEO traffic, but SilverCash is the worst (0:5,717)
6bucksfamily at PussyCash 1:4500 , ImLive 1:100 but I just started promoting them so ratio isn't real , nichecastle 1:950 for SEO traffic .....

HXMGP 09-16-2007 01:16 PM

I'm a much bigger fan of taking like 5 sponsors where you like thier sites and promote those heavily rather than promoting 25 sponsors and barely taking anytime to study their sites.

If you are promoting way too much, you get into the habit of just throwing traffic into the wind and hoping something will sell. If you take 5 sponsors and study their sites effectively, the results will most likely be much better.

If you understand the niche yourself very well, you can help market that towards others who like your same niche. It's always easier to sell something you belive in and understand versus not.

signupdamnit 09-17-2007 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 13094426)
Those of you with 0:4000+ should qualify your answers with the type of traffic and time period. Huge difference in 1:5000 over 1 day vs. a few hits a day over 2 years. Also mention if you've EVER had a sale. I'll have a good :1orglaugh at the guys redirecting 404's straight to tours or auto-redirects and wondering why those clicks aren't converting into $


I won't even bring up the comparisons of sponsors who count 2nd/qualified/join page hits vs. first page raw/uniques..... o.k. I just did ;) Worse yet are those of you that are like "OMG.. i'm like 1:XXX with (some sponsor that counts qualified uniques)... WOW!!!!!!!!"

Keep on' spreading that misinformation :upsidedow

All those things make a difference. But I do think many of us have sponsors that we know we are sending tons of quality hits to and just not making any sales. These are the ones where we feel like we are just throwing money away by leaving their links up. That was more the intent behind this topic.

commonsense 09-17-2007 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 13099828)
All those things make a difference. But I do think many of us have sponsors that we know we are sending tons of quality hits to and just not making any sales. These are the ones where we feel like we are just throwing money away by leaving their links up. That was more the intent behind this topic.

What makes you feel these are quality hits? I would guess most the people in this thread have no idea what quality traffic is, and are thrilled to see an occasional lucky sale.


Just the nature of the biz right now.

SkeetSkeet 09-17-2007 12:09 PM

i think it is funny how so many people still try to sell the same shit that is oversaturated everywhere. a perfect example, went to a fair saturday night. i counted 15 people selling BBQ. Now there was like 1-2 people at each booth. The place that was selling the sno cones, there was only one. The line took almost 15 minutes to get one, literally probably 20-30 people in line all night. People just keep promoting this large ass programs and wondering why they can't make bank. try some smaller programs with content that is just as hot, but not oversaturated like crazy! try us at www.starlightbucks.com or our friends over at www.hillbillydollars.com and see if your ratios don't go up. And as for us converting badly, give us a try, you don't get good results, we will work with you and get you set straight either way, ask anyone, we are good folks.

CarlyMoore 09-17-2007 12:39 PM

Exactly Skeet! I won't mention any specific sites, but you look around on the TGPs and just see the same fucking models and the same fucking galleries over and over and over like there is nothing else on the Internet that a surfer would be interested in besides these same few models and sites! What about all the unbelievable hot young models that simply go unheard of because there was no bandwagon created for affiliates to jump on and ride... Affiliates would see a huge change in there income if they would take a chance on some of these girls that no one has seen before, offering up something new to the surfer and not just a different gallery of the same worn out model! Fight for the no namers! Get them out there, see if the surfer likes them or not, and hell if they don't like them you always have the saturated stuff to fall back on and bitch about horrible ratios! I'm not just talking about Hillbilly Dollars sites or Starlight Bucks sites, I'm speaking for all these smaller programs with hot stuff that's unseen.

Here is an example, now I cant speak for Starlight Bucks but I can for my own program

Here is this period for carlymoore.cc 1:177

Here is this period for angieryan.com 1:350

Now, in the stats I'm seeing you guys post in this thread I'm not seeing much of what I just shared with you as far as our #s go bottom line try something new, I think you'll be surprised!

Promote HillBillyDollars And StarLightBucks Fresh faces convert stop Saturating

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RP Fade 09-17-2007 12:45 PM

There is help, besides our flagship sites that all all under 1:1000, these are some of the more recent ones. And mind you these are all front page hits :thumbsup

http://monsterloads.sexseries.com/post/rp_stats01.jpg

http://monsterloads.sexseries.com/post/pov_stats01.jpg

http://monsterloads.sexseries.com/post/th_stats01.jpg

Other Notables..

http://monsterloads.sexseries.com/post/fm_stats01.jpg

http://monsterloads.sexseries.com/post/ho_stats01.jpg

We dropped all our bad sponsors however, we do 1:800 on average from our TGPs..

RyanL 09-17-2007 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlyMoore (Post 13100406)
Exactly Skeet! I won't mention any specific sites, but you look around on the TGPs and just see the same fucking models and the same fucking galleries over and over and over like there is nothing else on the Internet that a surfer would be interested in besides these same few models and sites! What about all the unbelievable hot young models that simply go unheard of because there was no bandwagon created for affiliates to jump on and ride... Affiliates would see a huge change in there income if they would take a chance on some of these girls that no one has seen before, offering up something new to the surfer and not just a different gallery of the same worn out model! Fight for the no namers! Get them out there, see if the surfer likes them or not, and hell if they don't like them you always have the saturated stuff to fall back on and bitch about horrible ratios! I'm not just talking about Hillbilly Dollars sites or Starlight Bucks sites, I'm speaking for all these smaller programs with hot stuff that's unseen.

Here is an example, now I cant speak for Starlight Bucks but I can for my own program

Here is this period for carlymoore.cc 1:177

Here is this period for angieryan.com 1:350

Now, in the stats I'm seeing you guys post in this thread I'm not seeing much of what I just shared with you as far as our #s go bottom line try something new, I think you'll be surprised!

Promote HillBillyDollars And StarLightBucks Fresh faces convert stop Saturating

Contact us 221-433-729

Good post!

Your sites do convert well with our traffic!
So far this month Carly Moore is 1:69 and Angie Ryan is 1:178

:thumbsup

CarlyMoore 09-17-2007 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanL (Post 13100695)
Good post!

Your sites do convert well with our traffic!
So far this month Carly Moore is 1:69 and Angie Ryan is 1:178

:thumbsup



Thankyou I hope your enjoying the money!

Jai 09-17-2007 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanL (Post 13100695)
Good post!

Your sites do convert well with our traffic!
So far this month Carly Moore is 1:69 and Angie Ryan is 1:178

:thumbsup

those are some good numbers...
i wud of thought juggcash wud pull better than solo sites ...instead im killing myself to get a sale by them

THY 09-17-2007 05:27 PM

you guys gotta try with not saturated programs with new fresh faces, see sig ;)

CarlyMoore 09-17-2007 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THY (Post 13101889)
you guys gotta try with not saturated programs with new fresh faces, see sig ;)

echo? or lol

_mC_ 09-17-2007 06:42 PM

Hate to say it.. just checked my StatsRemote All Time and:

TripleXCash 1:9033

OUCH! I never understood why, but we just can't convert there. I suppose I should probably find another college site to promote from campussexromp.com, any takers?!

Iron Fist 09-17-2007 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 13094096)
StarlightBucks 0:16,967!!!

What he said...

Starlightbucks 1:8113 ($12.46)

Man they suck balls. Those "teen" girls are horrible and it shows.

Iron Fist 09-17-2007 07:32 PM

Next up Mayors Money PPS $30 - 1:5277 (11 sales - 58,057 clicks), horrible.

The Ghost 09-17-2007 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 13092709)
islanddollars 0:8636


Hey Teencat, I sent you over an email yesterday on some suggestions to improve your ratios. Send me a message back when you get a chance :thumbsup


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