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| Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. | 
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|  09-13-2007, 10:13 AM | #1 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York                         ICQ#348007554 
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				 |  Best Secondary Biller? I'm working on a new program and want a backup biller to CCbill. Who are you guys using these says? | 
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|  09-13-2007, 10:25 AM | #2 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York                         ICQ#348007554 
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				 | Nothing? I guess we would all rather talk about big tits than making money   | 
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|  09-13-2007, 10:26 AM | #3 | 
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				 | Epoch, netbilling. I seem to get more sales with Epoch over ccbill as well. 
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|  09-13-2007, 11:44 AM | #4 | 
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				 | I still prefer Epoch as the backup processor. 
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|  09-13-2007, 02:52 PM | #5 | 
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				 |    bump for u | 
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|  09-13-2007, 02:52 PM | #6 | 
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				 |   bumperooni | 
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|  09-13-2007, 07:25 PM | #7 | 
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				 | looks like epoch gets it... | 
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|  09-13-2007, 07:49 PM | #8 | 
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				 | Ray..you've been around...what's up? There's really only four to trust at this moment. In order. Good Luck  CCbill Epoch Verotel netbilling | 
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|  09-13-2007, 07:52 PM | #9 | |
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|  09-13-2007, 08:03 PM | #10 | 
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				 | I concur with Epoch.  We actually use them primary on some sites.  It's great if you can get the EU program, depending on where you are.  Numbers work out better... SEGpay is a good one to look at too. Also if you are looking to go multilingual and have lots of offshore options to bill with have a look at: http://www.nocreditcard.com/ You can get your pages translated into other languages and setup the billing options to match the country the traffic is from. It's a very good deal. 
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|  09-14-2007, 08:34 AM | #11 | |
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  Ray ~ You got mail  | |
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|  09-14-2007, 08:41 AM | #12 | |
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|  09-14-2007, 09:21 AM | #13 | 
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				 | wts and verotel. 
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|  09-14-2007, 09:26 AM | #14 | 
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				 | Definitely Epoch as the secondary. Brad 
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|  09-14-2007, 09:28 AM | #15 | 
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				 | Epoch's got some decent marketing tools that come with their processing. Even after we shut them off (due to us switching to Netbilling - nothing on their performance per se), we were getting sales for a few more months by them. And I look forward to the possibility of working with them again in some future project. 
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|  09-14-2007, 09:28 AM | #16 | 
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				 | Epoch/CCBILL... It is like a duh factor. | 
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|  09-14-2007, 09:29 AM | #17 | 
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|  09-14-2007, 09:52 AM | #18 | 
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				 | I love big tits | 
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|  09-14-2007, 09:35 PM | #19 | 
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				 | Heh thanks... sometimes.  And sometimes I fall flat on my face but hey I keep trying.  I miss the Ray rants you have to post one again! 
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|  09-16-2007, 01:17 AM | #20 | |
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 Thank you for your business and I hope you are very hapy with us. Mitch 
				__________________  Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998! | |
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|  09-16-2007, 01:19 AM | #21 | |
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 We can save you money and give you an extreme amount of flexibility, more than any other. Give us a call to find out more or feel free to email or hit me up on ICQ. Thank you, Mitch Farber 
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|  09-16-2007, 03:57 AM | #22 | 
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				 | bump..!!looks like epoch gets it... | 
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