How come the Japanese porn industry get such classy hot girls to do hardcore?

[Mutt]

seriously, how come American porn gets teen runaways, potheads, methheads and the Japanese seem to have an endless supply of fresh beautiful perfectly turned out girls that look like they just stepped out of an expensive private school?

[VoteForPedro]

GFY Rule #112 - When speaking of anything sexual in nature, you must supply at least two(2) sample pictures for the surfers.

[v4 media]

I think they get paid huge amounts, I remember reading an article once
and it mentioned $50-60k a shoot.

[rvincent]

US/Western teens can look good too in a business suit/classy clothes.
But it seems photographers can only shoot them naked or in cheap lingerie or in schoolgirl outfit.

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by VoteForPedro

GFY Rule #112 - When speaking of anything sexual in nature, you must supply at least two(2) sample pictures for the surfers.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Mutt

seriously, how come American porn gets teen runaways, potheads, methheads and the Japanese seem to have an endless supply of fresh beautiful perfectly turned out girls that look like they just stepped out of an expensive private school?

I think the key words here mutt are 'look like' it's the same crazy girls. I've shot a few of them.

[azzam]

The Japanese don't treat adult models like sluts and scum. They can go on to do basically any job they want, while in Western countries they would be forever haunted by their porn-past.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by v4 media

I think they get paid huge amounts, I remember reading an article once
and it mentioned $50-60k a shoot.

these crack heads would take that kind of money and actually they think they bare being cheated because they aren't being paid that much as it is.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by rvincent

US/Western teens can look good too in a business suit/classy clothes.
But it seems photographers can only shoot them naked or in cheap lingerie or in schoolgirl outfit.

some truth to that - and the only one who has realized that and made bank on it is FTV Girls. Some of those beautiful girls on there are outright nutcases with bruises and bags under their eyes but put them in some nice clothes and shoot them soft and they look good.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by azzam

The Japanese don't treat adult models like sluts and scum. They can go on to do basically any job they want, while in Western countries they would be forever haunted by their porn-past.

you would think somewhat differently if you worked with the models on a day to day basis like I have for the last 7 years.

99% of the models that do porn would be living under a bridge if they didn't get paid to get fucked up the ass, suck cock etc.

and so now you think that after porn they are gonna be fortune 500 CEO's? time to buy a vowel. are you a bro?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Mutt

some truth to that - and the only one who has realized that and made bank on it is FTV Girls. Some of those beautiful girls on there are outright nutcases with bruises and bags under their eyes but put them in some nice clothes and shoot them soft and they look good.

the porn shooters have no imagination Mutt. look at some of the images posted here by the big content shooters. totally horrible pics in every way.

as long as the dick is clearly visible it's a great shot, hot!

[Bake]

The new niche well shot content ;-)

[bronco67]

Most of the ones I've seen look fugly. There's a few nice ones here and there, but American porn girls are way hotter...and I don't think I'm being biased.

Plus, the jap porn just sucks. Mostly because the girls are boring fucks and so are the guys, and they have teeny little dicks. I want to see the girl get pounded by 10 inches. Not by some skinny little jap dude with a 4 inch weenie.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Most of the ones I've seen look fugly. There's a few nice ones here and there, but American porn girls are way hotter...and I don't think I'm being biased.

Plus, the jap porn just sucks. Mostly because the girls are boring fucks and so are the guys, and they have teeny little dicks. I want to see the girl get pounded by 10 inches. Not by some skinny little jap dude with a 4 inch weenie.

so you admit it then. you watch porn to see DICKS. finally and honest mother fucker here at GFY. $0.02

[teg0]

because their culture isn't so up tight about things and doesn't have religion holding their society back.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Bake

The new niche well shot content ;-)

yes it should be interesting to see how it goes. the clients have low balled so long that most of the good shooters have gone, and now the good shooters that remain are being put under exclusive contracts by the smarter clients.

[Violetta]

Originally Posted by v4 media

I think they get paid huge amounts, I remember reading an article once
and it mentioned $50-60k a shoot.

wtf??? that is crazy!

[AINOKEA]

God I love Asian Porn!

[ServerGenius]

Japanese are very sexual liberated....I guess since their normal culture is
very humble, shy and polite the sex stuff is their big exhaust to escape
everyday life.

[ServerGenius]

To some extend you see the same mentality in Eastern European countries
and also Russia and Former Russian states......for so long they have been
living their lives under full control....it seems like now they feel like they have
to catch up......it's like their living in the 60's-70's

[Mutt]

i should have posted some pics - i found these without looking that hard, all do hardcore. they have a huge softcore industry too and those girls are another notch up on these girls.

[Mutt]

[ServerGenius]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Now here's a post that deserves to get quoted

[RawAlex]

Okay, well, let's see. Japan has no evil catholic / christian morals when it comes to sex. Sex isn't a bad thing that your family will disown you over.

Japan has huge numbers of sex industry stores and shops in every city and region, from adult book and movie stores to strip clubs, fetish clubs, fantasy clubs (aka Fashion health clubs) blowjob clubs (pink salons), and Turkish Baths (soaplands). There is no true shyness in Japan about the existance of such places, and some girls who work in offices during the day work at one of these places at night.

You might also want to look up enjo kosai, assisted dating, where older men take younger girls out shopping for stupid expensive things like Gucchi purses or whatever, and then take them to a love hotel and fuck them. The man are often in their fourties and fifties, and the girls often in their (not legal in the US) teens. Again, without the stigma of sex being bad, there isn't really any huge moral issues at play. Some, but not guilty about sex, just about the arrangements.

Finally, understand that Japan only recently passed a law barring sex between adults and underage girls... IF YOU AREN'T A JAPANESE CITIZEN. They protect themselves and basically outlaw sex tourism.

There are tons and tons of very hot looking girls in Japan, and because sex and the sex industry isn't something to be completely ashamed about, they are often just a little more willing.

Oh yeah, money. The girls are exceptionally well paid, mostly because the industry has solidly good distribution and sales channels, often protected by the Yakuza in each region which gives them a pretty solid buisness with ongoing financial returns. If the money comes in the top, you can afford to pay top dollar to the talent.

[gecko]

Maria Ozawa's S-1 contract was $300,000 US a year or about $25,000 US for 1 movie a month



this girl ^

[Mutt]

she's amazing - does she have her own solo site? all i find for these Japanese girls are their blogs connected to whatever studio they are signed to. her father is French Canadian, says on Wikipedia she reads and writes English perfectly.

[Mutt]

anybody know this one's name? look at that rack on that skinny little thing.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Okay, well, let's see. Japan has no evil catholic / christian morals when it comes to sex. Sex isn't a bad thing that your family will disown you over.

Japan has huge numbers of sex industry stores and shops in every city and region, from adult book and movie stores to strip clubs, fetish clubs, fantasy clubs (aka Fashion health clubs) blowjob clubs (pink salons), and Turkish Baths (soaplands). There is no true shyness in Japan about the existance of such places, and some girls who work in offices during the day work at one of these places at night.

You might also want to look up enjo kosai, assisted dating, where older men take younger girls out shopping for stupid expensive things like Gucchi purses or whatever, and then take them to a love hotel and fuck them. The man are often in their fourties and fifties, and the girls often in their (not legal in the US) teens. Again, without the stigma of sex being bad, there isn't really any huge moral issues at play. Some, but not guilty about sex, just about the arrangements.

Finally, understand that Japan only recently passed a law barring sex between adults and underage girls... IF YOU AREN'T A JAPANESE CITIZEN. They protect themselves and basically outlaw sex tourism.

There are tons and tons of very hot looking girls in Japan, and because sex and the sex industry isn't something to be completely ashamed about, they are often just a little more willing.

Oh yeah, money. The girls are exceptionally well paid, mostly because the industry has solidly good distribution and sales channels, often protected by the Yakuza in each region which gives them a pretty solid buisness with ongoing financial returns. If the money comes in the top, you can afford to pay top dollar to the talent.

quoted for truth - excellent answer

[StuartD]

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[FredIsMe]

OMG. Japanese women are the hottest!

[potter]

i need me one of those!

[pornguy]

IM not into asian girls, and I would hit every one of those at least 4 times.


given the chance that is.

[Redrob]

Totemo Kawaiiiiiiii desu!!

[sinclair]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

yes it should be interesting to see how it goes. the clients have low balled so long that most of the good shooters have gone, and now the good shooters that remain are being put under exclusive contracts by the smarter clients.

Interesting point. Curious as to your thoughts, do you think the quality of content is down because shooters are being low balled? Or the clients are low balling because there are so many shooters who will shoot for cheap?

[DaddyHalbucks]

Is there much of an online market in Japan? How do they bill customers?

Or do they just sell DVDs/ videos at retail over there?

How does it work?

[Redrob]

There market is a mirror of ours.

DVD retail in storefronts and online.

Websites and affiliate programs.

Bittorent and tube sites.

[tony286]

some very hot girls.

[F-U-Jimmy]

This one is cute but looks a little like a cartoon, look at the eyes LOL

[Fap]

DAMnnn im not into asian girls and i would still sleep with these girls..

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by sinclair

Interesting point. Curious as to your thoughts, do you think the quality of content is down because shooters are being low balled? Or the clients are low balling because there are so many shooters who will shoot for cheap?

clients low ball be cause they can. since sex is involved peeps will work for almost nothing. a 100-300 a day, no pro will shoot for that. when I shot sex I made 1500-1800 a day.

so now clients expect sex for almost nothing, then there are the euro shooter selling sex for low prices due to model/production cost, in LA a sex shoot cost over 1500 to produce while the euro shoots prolly cost 500. this is with out location rentals. and remember the homegrown euros shoot much cheaper than the producers flying in from out of town.

unlike LA where peeps fly in to shoot and the prices have gone up for everybody. clients tell me the euros are paying models 300 for sex. a german model told me she got 280 for a day with anal and everything. the euro shooters deny that on the boards though.

sure there are guys shooting cheaper in LA however those are usually guys A. making not much profit or B. waiting to catch girls when they need drugs.

the main thing I'm asked by prospective clients now is: do the models speak english. interesting isn't it? then they wanna pay euro prices for the scenes. so the only choice their left with is to buy cheap content for under experienced shooters if they want that price.

the clients I shoot for know that my cost have gone up well over 200% in the last 3 years. so is the quality of content going down? good content cost more to produce and the clients are paying more for good content. the shooters that I know who are reasonably good are being offered contracts.

what is that gonna do to other sites? and now many sites are putting their own production houses together, buy a big house, pay a photog 35K a years and shoot 5 days a week for a ring of sites. good shooters aren't going to work for 35K a year.

one of my clients figure that in a few years most content will be shot by a few large companies and the small houses will be gone. like I say will be very interesting to see how it goes.

one other interesting thing: there are 1000% more models in LA than 3 -4 years ago and the 'value' of models has risen over 200% well over %200. if everybody in town had an apple tree in the back yard would the price of apples go up? I don't think so... this is gonna be interesting to watch also.

the DVD companies are down 25% in profit from 2005 to 2006, the numbers aren't in for the 2006 to 2207 yet. in 2006 the big companies even stopped shooting for a few months due to backlog of product they couldn't sell. now all the vid companies are stripping their lines for web content. traffic is much harder to get, the surfer is getting educated.

interesting times coming up for sure. I think exclusive content with quality will be the way to go. who really knows though?

[Due]

Originally Posted by v4 media

I think they get paid huge amounts, I remember reading an article once
and it mentioned $50-60k a shoot.

No that is when you actually buy them, not per shot

[sonofsam]

Wow.... I'm really suprised... This is actually a good and interesting business thread.

Seems out of place on GFY.



Hi mutt!

[bronco67]

Ok, so these girls are cute if you like asians. So you're saying that there aren't Amercan porn girls as hot or even better? There are truckloads of freshfaced young cuties doing crazy hardcore stuff in the states.

[Iron Fist]

Quick! Now can someone quote the whole damn picture thread?

[TeenSluts]

cool posts bradley

[teg0]

all very yummy.

[Enema]

Might be a naively racist theory... but: Genetics.

Ratio of hot:ugly Japanese girls in the general populace: 5:10
Ratio of hot:ugly American girls in the general populace: 2:10

I'm sure there are a lot of cultural reasons too, the Japanese have a different perspective on sex to Americans... but, I'm going with supply exceeds demand!

[fatfoo]

yes nice pics, thank you

[aico]

Because they tell them that is is the Honorable thing to do.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by sharphead

Quick! Now can someone quote the whole damn picture thread?

! Not gonna be me (this time)...