Should we go to war?

[matty]

War or no war.

Personally, ill back bush 110% on the movement to go to war.

Supposedly he's going to talk about it today.

[bhutocracy]

It would have been nice if the assassination attempts had worked. Last thing the Iraqi civilians need is more radioactive munitions dumped on their land by allied forces... it's not as if they voted saddam in.
but seeing as saddam is too hard to get to from within, and there needs to be a war to distract people from the economy......

[matty]

Well it war would definatly boost the economy by creating more jobs and the need for more products, etc.

War would have a great influence on the economy, but personally I dont care. Right now im even considering joining the Marines.

[Funbrunette]

I hope it doesn't happen!

[Gimmy]

Bush is a crack head, I feel scared that the fate of this country is in his hands

[chodadog]

Originally posted by bhutocracy
It would have been nice if the assassination attempts had worked. Last thing the Iraqi civilians need is more radioactive munitions dumped on their land by allied forces... it's not as if they voted saddam in.
but seeing as saddam is too hard to get to from within, and there needs to be a war to distract people from the economy......

Crickey, been a while since i saw you post man. Thought you'd died or something. haha

[bhutocracy]

Originally posted by chodadog


Crickey, been a while since i saw you post man. Thought you'd died or something. haha

lol my connection has been dead for days - the dog chewed through the phone line under the house.. little fucker!
thought i'd get a few posts in before I go under the radar again to complete some jobs that were delayed.

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by bhutocracy


lol my connection has been dead for days - the dog chewed through the phone line under the house.. little fucker!

Sounds like its time you got cable, man! Or can't you get it where you are?

[chodadog]

When you get a chance, hit me up on icq man. I'm wearing a tight pink thong. OOOH YEAH!

[FireFoz]

im dutch so I wont be in war for sure :P

However i do think Sadams ass should be kicked for sure, that guy is a sicko!

[bhutocracy]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Sounds like its time you got cable, man! Or can't you get it where you are?

lol, only cable tv. Telstra and Optus don't cover the north coast area, only the major cities.. my criteria for moving up here was that the town had to have DSL though.. couldn't go from 1.5mbit in sydney to some backwater with dialup

[bhutocracy]

Originally posted by chodadog
When you get a chance, hit me up on icq man. I'm wearing a tight pink thong. OOOH YEAH!

heheh ok, keep the thong handy though because i'll have to give you a buzz in the morning.. im just about to hit the sack - fucking repair guy came at NINE AM this morning im all fucked up fromt he early rise

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by bhutocracy


lol, only cable tv. Telstra and Optus don't cover the north coast area, only the major cities.. my criteria for moving up here was that the town had to have DSL though.. couldn't go from 1.5mbit in sydney to some backwater with dialup

Shit no. Never done the DSL thing myself. Straight from dial-up to Optus cable and now I could never go back. You get spoilt pretty quickly on a fast connection.

Where the fuck are ya? Near Byron?

[HeadPimp]

On topic.. I think we need to go back to Iraq and finish the job that we didn't finish the first time we were there. I think our policy of being forceful but not upsetting anyone else is so BS. If we are going to kick someones ass then just fucking do it!

As for civilian losses, well yeah it is sad, but that is the way it goes in war. Just keep in mind that 'innocent' casualties are astronomically lower than they were in the last big war we were in. Anyone remember carpet bombing of German cities? How about the fire bombing of Japanese cities? Anyone here know that we killed more people in Japan with fire bombs that nukes?

War sucks, but if you are going to do it, do it big time and finish the job the first time so you don't have to do it twice.

[Lamar]

I've personally never thought that starting a war without a legitamate reason was a good idea. I don't like Saddam either but I don't think waging war is the right answer. The guy needs a bullet in his head but the last thing the people of that country need is one terrorist dictator replaced by the might of another (refering to the unelected king of Amercia - GWB).

What the fuck ever happened to a special ops assassination?

[pooterpatty]

Saddam needs to be taken out, no argument there, but the problem is that when you eliminate him, another smelly bushylipped fucker pops up in his place, one who's probably even related to him.

Sure, we can "replace" him with someone who is "friendly" with the West today, but those types of individuals have proven themselves time and time again to be notoriously untrustworthy, unreliable, and downright dangerous.

If we DO decide to go to war, then dammit we need to go to war!The logic behind the practice of having planes filled with food and supplies follow your bombers to drop their payload on the enemy eludes me to this day. Bomb the shit out of them, but make sure they have enough FOOD!

[RATBOY]

I honestly haven't heard a really good reason why we should hit Saddam. He is "Probably" funding terrorism is what I keep hearing. Good enough for me lets start bombing the fuck out of his troops and a few innocent civilians should be ok too. Please.

He's "trying" to develop nuclear weapons. So what? If I were the leader of a small country so would I. Why would we believe he would start shooting them off any more than any other country? China has em, Pakistan has em, hell, even the fucking French have them. Now ask yourself, who would seriously trust people who think eating snails is a cool idea with a Nuclear Fucking Bomb??? O my bad, them there french people are WHITE, so it must be ok.

If we go to war with them so be it, I will tip my hat to any US serviceman that goes. I would like to believe it is for the right reasons though.

[arkanoid]

Damn... guys, when you talk like that I can't think of you like of smart people. Therefore, being successful in this business does mean this.

"We should kick his ass..", "We should replace the leader.." "We should go to war..."
WHO DA HELL ARE YOU?? are you fucking gods? How come you decide which guy is right and which is the wrong one for Iraq ppl?? I understand Bush and his crew when they talk about that using papers, tv etc, - they are the ones who responsible for all the horror americans have gone thru, they (IMVHO) are the ones who put america in this fucking shit, directly or indirectly (according to the latest german research - directly). They wash brains to americans with this stupid war JUST to not giving you time to think and make reasonable conclusions from all the facts they werent successful to hide..they werent killed 9/11 but you were, guys..Those fucking "gods-evils" make you think and say stupid things using all of the means they got and you do. WHY? They think of you like of sheeps, dont you see that? Bin Laden's voice on the tape, his leutenants looking at the D.C.'s map and reading cockpilot manuals having koran handy and...those boings in wtc and few letters with anthrax. Doesn't it seem artificial to you guys? No? Well, they did their best to achieve this goal.

sorry guys, I didn't want to be rude to you guys today.


peace..

[Sly_RJ]

You know what... fuck the Europeans, fuck the whiney Americans. Bottom line, it's going to happen to sooner or later, so let's just get it done with. The sooner the better, you can only hear people bitch about this for so long until it starts to drive you crazy...

Now correct me if I'm wrong... but isn't Saddam doing some fucked up things to his people? Didn't he agree on nuclear weapon inspections? Didn't he deny inspectors access to investigate for the weapons, after he agreed on it? I'm sure there's more...

I don't know about the above, just various things I've heard. Any clarification would be appreciated.

But again, let's just go in and get it over with. Full force.

[arkanoid]

Nobody knows what's going on there. When considering things concerning with politics you never know what is true and what is not. Time is the best judge.

American papers are full of "proofs" nowadays, that's their business to support the gov. Tapes, interviewed saddam's fuckmates etc. I'm just wondering why noone screams about bombing of Iraq that happens every Friday during the last year? USForce along with Britain crossing Iraq's border every Friday and sometimes there are civils among the losses. Probaby, it's not the _right_ thing. Instead, there are headlines - palestinians celebrate 9/11 anniversary, iraq papers say 9/11 is a god reward and other bullshit.

The truth is somewhere in the middle, everyone plays their own game - bush&co want to control the world deciding what is good and what is not and saddam keeps selling oil being a sponsor for antiamerican organisations, hides himself behind iraq citizens when bombing. They all consider people as naive sheeps, and unfortunately they are right in most cases. Everyone who thinks "I'm not the sheep" is exactly the one when he/she voting in those polls and agrees to go to kill people for some1's else benefit.

War cannot be justified by any aims, cause all of the aims are someones' business interestsn sold like a popular idea.

[Terenzo]

Originally posted by RATBOY
He is "Probably" funding terrorism is what I keep hearing.

He's "trying" to develop nuclear weapons.

pretty much true.

what did the international inspectors (some were us-marines) say:
- "almost" no change saddam can have nuklear weapons in the near future, same for bio/chem. weapons
- terrorists like bin laden WOULD LOVE to kill him, no change saddam is funding "classical" islamic terrorists

i am just wondering why no one seems to notice those us-militairs quitting their jobs as a result being constantly ignored by the current us-government. the us-media seems to be fucked up totally, now.

[Kris]

there isn't a draft anymore. chances of having one are small... even if we would have a draft, i'm colorblind

[Terenzo]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Didn't he agree on nuclear weapon inspections? Didn't he deny inspectors access to investigate for the weapons, after he agreed on it?

that's not exactly what the inspectors are telling. he shut the doors after some stinky intelligence shit started to happen, even us-inspectors said that they understand him for doing this.


btw. the european officals are probably not so much concerned about humanity but the fact that saddam has missiles that could reach our cities. i dont trust the european goverments (i guess we know what governments are meant) much more than the us- or the iraqi.

[Terenzo]

Originally posted by Kris
there isn't a draft anymore. chances of having one are small... even if we would have a draft, i'm colorblind

wasn't it you starting that thread about the new gfy colors?????

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by arkanoid
American papers are full of "proofs" nowadays, that's their business to support the gov.

I hate to bust your bubble... but as stupid as you all think Bush is, he isn't stupid enough to rely on newspaper research and "proof" to base his decisions. We have the NSA for a reason, I'm sure they're VERY busy right now writing reports and briefs. Presidents (ALL Presidents) USE the media as their propaganda tool by releasing the various press releases and such, but they don't use the media for intelligence.

Come on...

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by arkanoid
Everyone who thinks "I'm not the sheep" is exactly the one when he/she voting in those polls and agrees to go to kill people for some1's else benefit.

War cannot be justified by any aims, cause all of the aims are someones' business interestsn sold like a popular idea.

Well, at least you admit that you're just another steep amongst the flock...

[Kris]

Originally posted by Terenzo



wasn't it you starting that thread about the new gfy colors?????

read much... the name by my posts is "Kris" it's short and simple, hard to confuse

[ChrisH]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
You know what... fuck the Europeans, fuck the whiney Americans. Bottom line, it's going to happen to sooner or later, so let's just get it done with. The sooner the better, you can only hear people bitch about this for so long until it starts to drive you crazy...

Now correct me if I'm wrong... but isn't Saddam doing some fucked up things to his people? Didn't he agree on nuclear weapon inspections? Didn't he deny inspectors access to investigate for the weapons, after he agreed on it? I'm sure there's more...

I don't know about the above, just various things I've heard. Any clarification would be appreciated.

But again, let's just go in and get it over with. Full force.

Sly,
Pretty fucking simple when you think about it!!