Paypal payment reversed - GoFuckYourself.com

fatfoo · 09-03-2007, 02:18 PM

This guy:

John
(icq) 493-367-549

sent me $350 paypal, in exchange for epass, but then the payment was "reversed" , wtf is that?

Why paypal payments can be reversed? What kind of bullshit is that?

What kind of scammer is this guy?

MicDoohan · 09-03-2007, 02:22 PM

hes the scammer kind of scammer

never EVER EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR do a paypal for epass for any mother fucker unless you know them REALLY well

sorry you got scammed man

fatfoo · 09-03-2007, 02:24 PM

here's more info on this guy:

Name:
John DeDona
Paypal Email:
[email protected]

peterk · 09-03-2007, 02:26 PM

yes I confirm it is a scam. Sorry for you buddy

F-U-Jimmy · 09-03-2007, 02:27 PM

http://www.paypalsucks.com

fatfoo · 09-03-2007, 02:29 PM

And i got this e-mail from paypal:

Recently, PayPal received a notification from a user regarding
unauthorized access to his PayPal account. As a result, one of the payments
credited to your PayPal account has been placed in a temporary hold while
we investigate the claim. PayPal constantly monitors transactions for
unauthorized use of accounts in order to maintain the safety of our
users.

The details of this transaction are as follows:

Transaction Date: Sep. 3, 2007
Transaction Amount: $350.00 USD
Buyer's Email: [email protected]

st0ned · 09-03-2007, 02:32 PM

Man I am very sorry to hear about that, Hope things turn out ok. I always see people looking for paypal to epass transfers but I personally would have never taken the chance in the first place.

st0ned · 09-03-2007, 02:33 PM

He probably steals paypal accounts, Makes the fraudulent transfer, Gets his money and runs. I don't believe its possible to reverse a payment on epass. Hope they catch the fucker.

Violetta · 09-03-2007, 02:35 PM

paypal sucks... Scammers suck more!

baddog · 09-03-2007, 02:36 PM

bump for a lesson learned

fuzebox · 09-03-2007, 02:42 PM

And the worst part is, doing money exchanges like that violates Paypal's TOS, so you can't complain to them about it

fatfoo · 09-03-2007, 02:43 PM

more info: epassporte.com id : ebizmc2:

The question is , should i contact epassporte about this matter? Or will i get my account frozen or some shit like that?

fatfoo · 09-03-2007, 02:48 PM

damn, this sucks

mattz · 09-03-2007, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0ned

He probably steals paypal accounts, Makes the fraudulent transfer, Gets his money and runs. I don't believe its possible to reverse a payment on epass. Hope they catch the fucker.

If he does that no worries, he will get fucked. I used to know someone that did it and like 2 months later the FBI kicked down his door.

fatfoo · 09-03-2007, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattz

If he does that no worries, he will get fucked. I used to know someone that did it and like 2 months later the FBI kicked down his door.

Question is , will i get my money back, and should i complain to epass?

Klen · 09-03-2007, 03:26 PM

Welcome to real world

He tried to fucked me first but i am not such sucker.

Klen · 09-03-2007, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0ned

He probably steals paypal accounts, Makes the fraudulent transfer, Gets his money and runs. I don't believe its possible to reverse a payment on epass. Hope they catch the fucker.

Yep that is why i didnt want to do exchange with that guy.I smell fraud on miles.

MicDoohan · 09-03-2007, 03:33 PM

dude youre never going to get that money back

seriously I would be so fucking pissed I really feel for ya but all you can do is learn from this - get back to work and make the money back

all the best

fatfoo · 09-03-2007, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicDoohan

dude youre never going to get that money back

seriously I would be so fucking pissed I really feel for ya but all you can do is learn from this - get back to work and make the money back

all the best

Yes, i supose you are right... I'm going back to work...

Tjeezers · 09-03-2007, 04:11 PM

Complaining to epassporte is something you should consider doing.

kane · 09-03-2007, 04:18 PM

I would contact epass and file a complaint against him. 99% chance you won't get your money back, but at least if he has scammed others and they have complained they will close his account.

Klen · 09-03-2007, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane

I would contact epass and file a complaint against him. 99% chance you won't get your money back, but at least if he has scammed others and they have complained they will close his account.

Good idea.I could join my request too,but unfortunatly there is big chance fraudster already withdrawed money and epass will not be able to do anything.

maddox · 09-03-2007, 05:14 PM

this is common thing, we run a PPC program and people commonly pay for traffic and than reverse the paypal payments

After Shock Media · 09-03-2007, 05:27 PM

To those talking shit about paypal, you need a reality check really.
Yes the poster got fucked in this chargeback situation but paypal is less likely to ignore or say too fucking bad like the other will.
BTW yes exchanges do violate paypals TOS.

Yet 10 to 1 says epass will not do crap and say they do not get envolved in person to person transfers or some other carpet excuse.

Klen · 09-03-2007, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

To those talking shit about paypal, you need a reality check really.
Yes the poster got fucked in this chargeback situation but paypal is less likely to ignore or say too fucking bad like the other will.
BTW yes exchanges do violate paypals TOS.

Yet 10 to 1 says epass will not do crap and say they do not get envolved in person to person transfers or some other carpet excuse.

Paypal is shit one way or another.On epass atleast you get detailed explanation why you lost money and on paypal you get generic message how they "protected" you with reversing funds.

fatfoo · 09-03-2007, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddox

this is common thing, we run a PPC program and people commonly pay for traffic and than reverse the paypal payments

That's fucked up, so what can you do about it?

Deej · 09-03-2007, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

To those talking shit about paypal, you need a reality check really.
Yes the poster got fucked in this chargeback situation but paypal is less likely to ignore or say too fucking bad like the other will.
BTW yes exchanges do violate paypals TOS.

Yet 10 to 1 says epass will not do crap and say they do not get envolved in person to person transfers or some other carpet excuse.

quoted for truth

After Shock Media · 09-03-2007, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Paypal is shit one way or another.On epass atleast you get detailed explanation why you lost money and on paypal you get generic message how they "protected" you with reversing funds.

When do you go on tour, I may actually pay 2.00 to see your comedy act assuming it comes with a drink ticket.

allofzen · 09-03-2007, 08:32 PM

I feel bad for you but I would never exchange ten $10 bills for some strange dude's $100 bill.

ztik · 09-03-2007, 08:51 PM

Yup, you got scammed. He most likely stole someones paypal account and used it to scam you.

Don't exchange money to epassporte from paypal for people you don't know / trust. I had to take legal action to get a few people back. I got them pretty good though

minusonebit · 09-03-2007, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

To those talking shit about paypal, you need a reality check really.
Yes the poster got fucked in this chargeback situation but paypal is less likely to ignore or say too fucking bad like the other will.
BTW yes exchanges do violate paypals TOS.

Yet 10 to 1 says epass will not do crap and say they do not get envolved in person to person transfers or some other carpet excuse.

Both of the services are shit and neither can be trusted.

PayPal just fucks you more gently. They use a little bit of lube and they will loosen you up a little before they stick it in. Sometimes, they even pull out. ePass just bends you over, fucks you in the ass and cums while inside you, then tells you what a bitch you are as they pull out.

However, it goes without saying that you really should NOT be exchanging money for people unless you know those people very well.

ridikuloz · 09-03-2007, 09:13 PM

does he have a GFY ?

shahab6 · 09-03-2007, 11:19 PM

the paypal account was stolen, same thing happend to me once.

pornpf69 · 09-03-2007, 11:22 PM

why dont you post his EPASSPORT ID too?

pornpf69 · 09-03-2007, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Good idea.I could join my request too,but unfortunatly there is big chance fraudster already withdrawed money and epass will not be able to do anything.

that sounds like the right thing to do!

Klen · 09-04-2007, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

When do you go on tour, I may actually pay 2.00 to see your comedy act assuming it comes with a drink ticket.

Actualy i earned a lot of money thanks to my comedy acts.Do you realize you talking nonsense?

Klen · 09-04-2007, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornpf69

why dont you post his EPASSPORT ID too?

He posted it,read entire thread man

maddox · 09-04-2007, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatfoo

That's fucked up, so what can you do about it?

you cannot do really much, I am 100% sure that some advertisers use stolen paypal accounts

we started screening all new advertisers manually, this helped a lot

Klen · 09-04-2007, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddox

you cannot do really much, I am 100% sure that some advertisers use stolen paypal accounts

we started screening all new advertisers manually, this helped a lot

Actualy best method is not to deliver service same moment when payment arrived.Delay for one or two day,that is best method to avoid receiving fraud funds.

Masterchief · 09-04-2007, 06:14 AM

A good way to reduce risk on those types of transactions is to use the mass pay feature. It eliminates that pesky 3% fee paypal charges and doesn't allow people to send money if it's funded by a CC.

Angie77 · 09-04-2007, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy

http://www.paypalsucks.com

I concur.

Steve Awesome · 09-04-2007, 08:06 AM

Never trust PayPal. Those bastards are only in business for themselves.

09-03-2007, 02:18 PM	#1
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	Paypal payment reversed This guy: John (icq) 493-367-549 sent me $350 paypal, in exchange for epass, but then the payment was "reversed" , wtf is that? Why paypal payments can be reversed? What kind of bullshit is that? What kind of scammer is this guy? __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

09-03-2007, 02:24 PM	#3
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	here's more info on this guy: Name: John DeDona Paypal Email: [email protected] __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

09-03-2007, 02:26 PM	#4
peterk Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,529	yes I confirm it is a scam. Sorry for you buddy __________________ Bogat mama ala cu loturi de trafic

09-03-2007, 02:29 PM	#6
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	And i got this e-mail from paypal: Recently, PayPal received a notification from a user regarding unauthorized access to his PayPal account. As a result, one of the payments credited to your PayPal account has been placed in a temporary hold while we investigate the claim. PayPal constantly monitors transactions for unauthorized use of accounts in order to maintain the safety of our users. The details of this transaction are as follows: Transaction Date: Sep. 3, 2007 Transaction Amount: $350.00 USD Buyer's Email: [email protected] __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

09-03-2007, 02:32 PM	#7
st0ned Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 8,437	Man I am very sorry to hear about that, Hope things turn out ok. I always see people looking for paypal to epass transfers but I personally would have never taken the chance in the first place. __________________ Conversion Sharks - 1,000+ adult dating offers, traffic management, and consistently high payouts. We will guarantee and beat your current EPC to win your dating traffic! Skype: ConversionSharks \|\| Email: info /@/ conversionsharks.com

09-03-2007, 02:22 PM	#2
MicDoohan Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 791	hes the scammer kind of scammer never EVER EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR do a paypal for epass for any mother fucker unless you know them REALLY well sorry you got scammed man

09-03-2007, 02:27 PM	#5
F-U-Jimmy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Visiting a city near you soon ! Posts: 6,853	http://www.paypalsucks.com

09-03-2007, 02:33 PM	#8
st0ned Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 8,437	He probably steals paypal accounts, Makes the fraudulent transfer, Gets his money and runs. I don't believe its possible to reverse a payment on epass. Hope they catch the fucker. __________________ Conversion Sharks - 1,000+ adult dating offers, traffic management, and consistently high payouts. We will guarantee and beat your current EPC to win your dating traffic! Skype: ConversionSharks \|\| Email: info /@/ conversionsharks.com

09-03-2007, 02:35 PM	#9
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	paypal sucks... Scammers suck more! __________________ M&A Queen

09-03-2007, 02:36 PM	#10
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	bump for a lesson learned

09-03-2007, 02:42 PM	#11
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,119	And the worst part is, doing money exchanges like that violates Paypal's TOS, so you can't complain to them about it

09-03-2007, 02:43 PM	#12
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	more info: epassporte.com id : ebizmc2: The question is , should i contact epassporte about this matter? Or will i get my account frozen or some shit like that? __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

09-03-2007, 02:48 PM	#13
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	damn, this sucks __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

09-03-2007, 03:26 PM	#16
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Welcome to real world He tried to fucked me first but i am not such sucker.

09-03-2007, 03:33 PM	#18
MicDoohan Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 791	dude youre never going to get that money back seriously I would be so fucking pissed I really feel for ya but all you can do is learn from this - get back to work and make the money back all the best

09-03-2007, 04:11 PM	#20
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09-03-2007, 04:18 PM	#21
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I would contact epass and file a complaint against him. 99% chance you won't get your money back, but at least if he has scammed others and they have complained they will close his account.

09-03-2007, 05:14 PM	#23
maddox Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 648	this is common thing, we run a PPC program and people commonly pay for traffic and than reverse the paypal payments

09-03-2007, 05:27 PM	#24
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	To those talking shit about paypal, you need a reality check really. Yes the poster got fucked in this chargeback situation but paypal is less likely to ignore or say too fucking bad like the other will. BTW yes exchanges do violate paypals TOS. Yet 10 to 1 says epass will not do crap and say they do not get envolved in person to person transfers or some other carpet excuse. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

09-03-2007, 08:32 PM	#29
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09-03-2007, 08:51 PM	#30
ztik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad Posts: 5,196	Yup, you got scammed. He most likely stole someones paypal account and used it to scam you. Don't exchange money to epassporte from paypal for people you don't know / trust. I had to take legal action to get a few people back. I got them pretty good though __________________ .

09-03-2007, 09:13 PM	#32
ridikuloz Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ▓NY▓ Posts: 2,080	does he have a GFY ? __________________ Each persons' level of stupidity makes us different.

09-03-2007, 11:19 PM	#33
shahab6 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los angeles Posts: 1,614	the paypal account was stolen, same thing happend to me once.

09-03-2007, 11:22 PM	#34
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09-04-2007, 06:14 AM	#40
Masterchief Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 530	A good way to reduce risk on those types of transactions is to use the mass pay feature. It eliminates that pesky 3% fee paypal charges and doesn't allow people to send money if it's funded by a CC.

09-04-2007, 08:06 AM	#42
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