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			 Yes, it's true that I let Zango advertise on my site. I talked to them for a good week before I decided. They never screwed me over, and I was willing to give them a second chance for all the BS they've done in the past. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 how about just keep the money, and promise not to fuck your surfers by using zango anymore? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 What i would like to know is how did zango say "they stopped"? I don't see how they could stop popping pop ups on users who have installed the software over top of other peoples websites. Thats what their whole system was based around. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 Give them to the organization's that fight content-theft 
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		 This is stickyfingerz all over again. You are asking who you should buy a Cam so we shut up and call you a "bro" again. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 All I can say is that if you can't find your own moral compass, the rest of us surely can't explain it to you in a way that will mean anything. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I'm confused.  Are you saying you did work with Zango up until the present but have elected to no longer do so? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 I think the best use for the money would be to man up and use it to provide the surfers on your sites with the proper tools to remove zango from their computers. This way people who buy traffic from you are assured to not be buying a ton of infected traffic, but maybe a smaller amount. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Joe, I got an idea.  Redirect your sites to a spyware removal site for a few months to make up for your stupidity. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 Youre the fucking stupid one smartarse cunt - by the very nature of how they operate they CANT stop what they are doing. You think they contacted the owner of hundreds of thousands of pcs and walked them thru the uninstall??? ![]() You're fucking scum - I personally will be bumping this thread weekly and linking to it whenever your name is mentioned. Having a real shit day won't ya.  | 
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 When you say you gave them a second chance and not up to their old BS i think you miss the picture here. The way their shit works is wrong all together. Honeslty, it doesnt matter that much to me if they trick a surfer to download their shit or their put it on the their pc without the person knowing, either way once it is on their pc it will cost me, and you, and everyone else here money. I just thought everyone knew how they worked after it being talked about so much here the last 9 months. 
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 Joe what are the chances of letting your surfers know they are infected and helping them clean up? 
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		 you don't know how to handle a little pressure well.  You start a thread basically asking for people to argue with you and then when people do make a few comments you post an image like this. What did you expect from this thread.  This reminds me of the Lars mentality where he would make posts titled " zango zango zango zango zango zango zango! " and make another posts a few minutes later asking why is everyone picking on him and not the other companies using zango  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 Alex... you're not Joe. ![]() Damn GFY and it's 2-minute page loads today... I shoulda/woulda cought that sooner. Still, that's what doesn't make sense about this whole thing to me. I mean, pick what side of the fense to sit on... chose your business partners, and people will decide to do business with you or not based on that... But if he's gonna keep sending Zango traffic, it doesn't make much sense to donate what he's earned from them. I mean, he's either fine with it, and it's his money, and he should do what he wants with it, or he's not fine with it, and he, then, might consider some sort of penance if he's trying to make good in the eyes of those that disagree with his old methods. The course he's seemed to have set (keep sending traffic, because he's fine with it, but feels obliged to donate the proceeds) just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. 
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 If you want a first hand demonstraition I am sure someone reading this could go bid on joestraffic.com and other sites you own and send the traffic to their own sites. BTW, teach me your marketing genius techneques on how all publicity is good publicity. Doing business with zango is like Jack in the box selling hamburgers with bad meat and killing people or a hooker getting aids and having it advertised all over town. Teach me how you would turn those types of publicity into a positive because Zango ranks up there with that shit. Dealing with a company that does business with zango is like sleeping with a hooker with aids, you get what you deserve if you do it. 
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 How ironic. Joe sends traffic to zango where more pcs are infected. Someone on zango bids on joe's sites. Joe helps increase the number of people infected and in doing so he single handedly causes more and more of his own traffic to be hijacked away from him by zango. But Joe thinks they are A'OK because they are " not up to their BS anymore" so he " gave them a second chance." I guess i didn't bitch about zango long enough as some of you still clearly don't understand how it works. I go back to my first comment on this matter...... anyone who does business with zango and owns a site or is an affiliate is about as smart as a rock. 
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		 I agree with Will, keep the money, just stop doing business with them 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I focus on providing nothing but the best QUALITY traffic. The only question you'll ask is how can you get more. ~ Joe What quality are surfers infected with Zango? 
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	80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds 3 & 5mins FLVs | RSS & Tube Feeds | Matching Thumbs | FLV Browser & Exporter | No Prechecked Xsales >> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557 ICQ - 436 795 438 E-mail rob /@/ cool-content dotcom 
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