So, my porn torrent tracker site is coming along nicely....hehe

[Jace]

Setting this shit up is a BREEZE, now I just need sponsors that are willing to submit to it

I will host the torrents if you all are willing to get me trailers you want up

it will be a slow start, but I plan on getting a few thousand porn torrents in there and then feeding them into all the different trackers and torrent search engines

anyway, hit me up on email if interested

[KimJI]

no offence, but why would you feed the sites that make money illegally?

The idea with the legal torrent is good enough, but why on earth would you want to feed the scammers? Why not just keep the site 100% legal?

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by KimJI

no offence, but why would you feed the sites that make money illegally?

The idea with the legal torrent is good enough, but why on earth would you want to feed the scammers? Why not just keep the site 100% legal?

I don't see where he's "feeding the scammers" exactly.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by KimJI

no offence, but why would you feed the sites that make money illegally?

The idea with the legal torrent is good enough, but why on earth would you want to feed the scammers? Why not just keep the site 100% legal?

what part of what I posted had anything to do with anything illegal?

if you read my previous posts about the matter I want to flood the illegal torrent sites with fake porn torrents, I know I can only make a tiny dent, but that is good enough for me

if I can take 1000 porn trailers and make them appear to be 300mb and get people downloading them one after the other until they finally say AAAUUUUGGGGHHHH!!!!! because there is nothing worthwhile in them except for ads and drm popups, then isn't that achieving something?

[Jace]

Originally Posted by StuartD

I don't see where he's "feeding the scammers" exactly.

i think he thinks that because I will be submitting the torrents from my site to other trackers it will be "feeding them"

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by Jace

i think he thinks that because I will be submitting the torrents from my site to other trackers it will be "feeding them"

If it's all trailers and promos and ads.... then it's something the sponsors should have been doing long ago.
Fill those trackers up!!!

[Jace]

Originally Posted by StuartD

If it's all trailers and promos and ads.... then it's something the sponsors should have been doing long ago.
Fill those trackers up!!!

that is my goal

I wanna slam the illegal trackers with our promo crap

[TeenCat]

umm looks nice, but i am not sure if someone will download small videos from torrents, people are looking for full cds and site rips, so maybe wasting of time?

[KimJI]

Originally Posted by Jace

what part of what I posted had anything to do with anything illegal?

if you read my previous posts about the matter I want to flood the illegal torrent sites with fake porn torrents, I know I can only make a tiny dent, but that is good enough for me

if I can take 1000 porn trailers and make them appear to be 300mb and get people downloading them one after the other until they finally say AAAUUUUGGGGHHHH!!!!! because there is nothing worthwhile in them except for ads and drm popups, then isn't that achieving something?

I didn't say you were doing anything illegal, what I meant was why provide them with content. Even if the content is fake, it still helps them get traffic based on Keywords.

Originally Posted by Jace

i think he thinks that because I will be submitting the torrents from my site to other trackers it will be "feeding them"

That is exactly my point. As I said to begin with, I'm not trying to flame you project, but no matter what, you are still feeding content in to the torrent sites. The more content they have, the higher they get places on the search engines. But its your choice. All I asked was why not keep the site as a closed network instead.


To sum it up. I do not think this is the way to fight the sites that use copyrighted content without permission.

I think the right way to go is, going after the hosts that provide them shelter, and the sponsors that makes it possible for them to profit of the sites

[Snake Doctor]

It's gotta be Goatse, ALL GOATSE...and maybe a little tub girl

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by KimJI

I didn't say you were doing anything illegal, what I meant was why provide them with content. Even if the content is fake, it still helps them get traffic based on Keywords.





That is exactly my point. As I said to begin with, I'm not trying to flame you project, but no matter what, you are still feeding content in to the torrent sites. The more content they have, the higher they get places on the search engines. But its your choice. All I asked was why not keep the site as a closed network instead.


To sum it up. I do not think this is the way to fight the sites that use copyrighted content without permission.

I think the right way to go is, going after the hosts that provide them shelter, and the sponsors that makes it possible for them to profit of the sites

You are fucking retarted.

That's all.

[devilspost]

Dont torrent users rate and flag bad downloads?

[KimJI]

Originally Posted by devilspost

Dont torrent users rate and flag bad downloads?

They do. It will be present on the trackers for less than 6 hours before they are removed. When there are no sources for the file (because no-one will share it) and all reviews of the "Seeded" content are bad and labeled as "fake", it will be removed within a day.


People tried this trick on Limewire, Edonkey, Kaaza and every other P2P out there. And I don't think anyone in their right mind would call those campaigns a success.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by KimJI

They do. It will be present on the trackers for less than 6 hours before they are removed. When there are no sources for the file (because no-one will share it) and all reviews of the "Seeded" content are bad and labeled as "fake", it will be removed within a day.


People tried this trick on Limewire, Edonkey, Kaaza and every other P2P out there. And I don't think anyone in their right mind would call those campaigns a success.

let me ask you this then, what are YOU doing to fight this?

I have approx 300 porn torrent trackers being installed right this moment, all will be hosting porn trailers and clips, all going to be flooding the torrent search engines

what are YOU doing?

[Oracle Porn]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

umm looks nice, but i am not sure if someone will download small videos from torrents, people are looking for full cds and site rips, so maybe wasting of time?

read thread idiot

btw after 3 downloads someone will comment that your seed is shit and no one will download

[RawAlex]

Jace, the only bad news is that you create more pages for the torrent sites, more chances to get good SERPs, and more traffic gets sucked over there.

[TeenCat]

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

read thread idiot

btw after 3 downloads someone will comment that your seed is shit and no one will download

idiot for what? can you explain your hard words? thanks in advance

[KimJI]

Originally Posted by Jace

let me ask you this then, what are YOU doing to fight this?

I have approx 300 porn torrent trackers being installed right this moment, all will be hosting porn trailers and clips, all going to be flooding the torrent search engines

what are YOU doing?

I'm working on www.piratealert.com where we work together with the hosts and sponsors to cut off the funding and hosting. The site wont be ready for at least a month

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by Jace

what part of what I posted had anything to do with anything illegal?

if you read my previous posts about the matter I want to flood the illegal torrent sites with fake porn torrents, I know I can only make a tiny dent, but that is good enough for me

if I can take 1000 porn trailers and make them appear to be 300mb and get people downloading them one after the other until they finally say AAAUUUUGGGGHHHH!!!!! because there is nothing worthwhile in them except for ads and drm popups, then isn't that achieving something?

brilliant idea jace!

[KimJI]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Jace, the only bad news is that you create more pages for the torrent sites, more chances to get good SERPs, and more traffic gets sucked over there.

I already mentioned that, but "you are retarded" was the best reply I got

[Jace]

Originally Posted by KimJI

I'm working on www.piratealert.com where we work together with the hosts and sponsors to cut off the funding and hosting. The site wont be ready for at least a month

great, you are taking the "nice" approach

I would rather build up traffic to hundreds of fake trackers and then infest the users with garbage and bullshit

bittorrent accounts for something like 32% of all internet traffic, cutting one site off just makes them open 5 more just like it

if I can start this project and along the way figure out how to fuck the surfers that are stealing, then I would rather do that than sit and report sites all day to hosts and providers...i am sick of being nice about it, no one cares, so I am going to start this shit and learn how to fuck em up

hell, I will post full length wmv videos and halfway through the video have a codec install and tear the users computer up...LOL...i am sick of it

[TeenCat]

ok i think i understand, so another thread to beat users, i still think better is to beat thiefs, instead of making hard work with small chances why you dont secure your members areas? no ideas? respect at the first place ...

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Jace, the only bad news is that you create more pages for the torrent sites, more chances to get good SERPs

That's the whole point (or at least a big part of it). Right now "real" (read: illegal) torrent sites 'own' the SERPS for a lot of xxx related keywords. If you take away some of their SE traffic and send those surfers to fake torrent sites (maybe even filled with tons of popups), you ruin the reputation of torrent sites in general. Soon, surfers will come to associate the word 'torrent' with 'fake files', 'a waste of time',... instead of with 'free content'.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

why you dont secure your members areas?

what about full DVDrips etc being shared on torrent sites?

[KimJI]

Originally Posted by Jace

great, you are taking the "nice" approach

I would rather build up traffic to hundreds of fake trackers and then infest the users with garbage and bullshit

bittorrent accounts for something like 32% of all internet traffic, cutting one site off just makes them open 5 more just like it

if I can start this project and along the way figure out how to fuck the surfers that are stealing, then I would rather do that than sit and report sites all day to hosts and providers...i am sick of being nice about it, no one cares, so I am going to start this shit and learn how to fuck em up

hell, I will post full length wmv videos and halfway through the video have a codec install and tear the users computer up...LOL...i am sick of it

Its not the "nice" approach. Its the hard and professional approach where we prevent instead of Combat. You are going after the users, I go after the people that profit from it.

I hope the part about codec install and tear the users computer up was a joke

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

umm looks nice, but i am not sure if someone will download small videos from torrents, people are looking for full cds and site rips, so maybe wasting of time?

take a small clip/trailer, add a couple hundred megs of empty frames... simple...

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by KimJI

Its not the "nice" approach. Its the hard and professional approach where we prevent instead of Combat. You are going after the users, I go after the people that profit from it.

I wouldn't call it "going after the users", I'd call it "killing the reputation of torrent sites in general".

Originally Posted by KimJI

I hope the part about codec install and tear the users computer up was a joke

same here.

[KimJI]

Lets bump this post 6 months from now and see the result. I'm not dissing you or your project. I have kept a open mind about your project but I don't think it will work, and I think you are going after the wrong people.

[Blue Player]

Hey if you need a couple of PC to help seed it then I have two in the office on different IPs. I could just download all the stuff from somewhere and shove it on both machines.

[TeenCat]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

what about full DVDrips etc being shared on torrent sites?

ok thank you so its only for web-based sites, i havent been thinking about that most of the sites are producing dvds too

Originally Posted by u-Bob

take a small clip/trailer, add a couple hundred megs of empty frames... simple...

right good idea, but torrent sites are moderated so those files will be not so long alive so again its only much more work with small effect maybe if you can change the whole torrent while you are downloading it so you can corrupt the whole seed, that can be the way ... but seeding own corrupted material ... that cant work so long. thanks for your replies, newbie learned something new ;)

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

right good idea, but torrent sites are moderated so those files will be not so long alive so again its only much more work with small effect

from: http://www.rlslog.net/fake-torrents-flooding-mininova/

Although it?s very clear it?s fake and it?s also written in the comments, more than 6000 people already tried to download it.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

read thread idiot

btw after 3 downloads someone will comment that your seed is shit and no one will download

Not all torrent sites have comment feature,neither cannot be commented all 1000 torrents uploaded.

[TeenCat]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

from: http://www.rlslog.net/fake-torrents-flooding-mininova/

thank you for info and nice link, so now we are talking only about free traffic? if 6000 people download corrupted file and people will like the preview, someone will buy it and seed the right file ... so in my eyes its all this work worth few memberships ... ? respect, just another newbies

[donkevlar]

Sorry Jace, you know i heart you but this isn't going to do shit but annoy about 1 person per file and as many people have said, make more pages for the torrent site/s.

[Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Jace i'm gonna start a torrent site and host illegal downloads, wanna share of the profits?

[AmeliaG]

Killer idea!

[geeknik]

Won't take long for you to get banned from the trackers. I hope you have plenty of proxy IPs to use.

[beemk]

lol sending fake porn torrents to sites is feeding them with content, you're an idiot. i think its a great idea.

[StarkReality]

It's a great idea, but it will take alot of effort. The music industry tried a similar concept for years now, the real stolen content is still around...but this doesn't mean trying won't have any effect and it's much better than just sitting, waiting, hoping and whining ! All the best for your project !

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Thats silly.
Seriously.

Decent torrent scripts verify file size. Yer pissing in the wind.

[flashfire]

not many will download shitty clips and trailers when they can get the whole thing...good luck though

[Jace]

thanks to all that have emailed me about this, lots of great ideas flowing for sure

and to those that would rather whine and tell me how bad of an idea it is...great, thanks for the input

seriously guys, I am learning and playing, and those that are serious and have content and biz to do have contacted me and have given ideas and worked with me with open arms, and that is all I am asking for

if nothing else, I will get these sites I am creating all over the engines and the sponsors that I am working with will get extra exposure, what is so bad about that?

btw, I created a torrent last night, a single trailer that was only 30mb, it has not been flagged on any site and has been downloaded a total of 2932 times and also has 23 people seeding it

people want porn, they don't care how big it is, now if we can flood tons of trackers with porn like this, what is bad about that?

[RawAlex]

Jace, it is only bad because it continues to teach surfers to go to torrent sites to get porn. It keeps them with the traffic, and keep them getting banner clicks and income. You are providing the content to make them stronger.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Jace, it is only bad because it continues to teach surfers to go to torrent sites to get porn. It keeps them with the traffic, and keep them getting banner clicks and income. You are providing the content to make them stronger.

torrent sites are here, there is no getting rid of them, I would rather sit and play with a site and figure out ways to monetize that source of traffic than get grumpy and pout about it

if I can knock one top listing out of the se's for porn torrents then it is worth it to me

[Jace]

one thing is funny though, as much people on gfy are either bitching or being discouraging about it, 6 BIG sponsors have contacted me already and are uploading their files

also, these are files they already have made and are uploading to other torrent sites, so this is already something others are doing, and on a large scale

[TeenCat]

ok wish you luck with that idea ;) i will be happy to be informed, maybe we can wait for new section on torrent trackers "xxx trailers"

[Nicky]

Originally Posted by Jace

btw, I created a torrent last night, a single trailer that was only 30mb, it has not been flagged on any site and has been downloaded a total of 2932 times and also has 23 people seeding it

people want porn, they don't care how big it is, now if we can flood tons of trackers with porn like this, what is bad about that?

How many clicks to sponsor?

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Nicky

How many clicks to sponsor?

no idea, it was a watermarked trailer

I haven't gotten around to doing anything clickable yet, just testing to the waters for now

guess I need to get some popups in the vids or sumpin huh? hehe

[Jace]

rofl, I am done playing with torrents for the day, back to real work

[d-null]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

That's the whole point (or at least a big part of it). Right now "real" (read: illegal) torrent sites 'own' the SERPS for a lot of xxx related keywords. If you take away some of their SE traffic and send those surfers to fake torrent sites (maybe even filled with tons of popups), you ruin the reputation of torrent sites in general. Soon, surfers will come to associate the word 'torrent' with 'fake files', 'a waste of time',... instead of with 'free content'.

That's what most people think of limewire and the others that came on to replace napster, now alot of music listeners buy itune cards because they are sick of the hassles and bad files.

It doesn't hurt to cover all bases.