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Jace 09-02-2007 06:05 AM

So, my porn torrent tracker site is coming along nicely....hehe
 
Setting this shit up is a BREEZE, now I just need sponsors that are willing to submit to it

I will host the torrents if you all are willing to get me trailers you want up

it will be a slow start, but I plan on getting a few thousand porn torrents in there and then feeding them into all the different trackers and torrent search engines

anyway, hit me up on email if interested

KimJI 09-02-2007 06:08 AM

no offence, but why would you feed the sites that make money illegally?

The idea with the legal torrent is good enough, but why on earth would you want to feed the scammers? Why not just keep the site 100% legal?

StuartD 09-02-2007 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KimJI (Post 13022403)
no offence, but why would you feed the sites that make money illegally?

The idea with the legal torrent is good enough, but why on earth would you want to feed the scammers? Why not just keep the site 100% legal?

I don't see where he's "feeding the scammers" exactly.

Jace 09-02-2007 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KimJI (Post 13022403)
no offence, but why would you feed the sites that make money illegally?

The idea with the legal torrent is good enough, but why on earth would you want to feed the scammers? Why not just keep the site 100% legal?

what part of what I posted had anything to do with anything illegal?

if you read my previous posts about the matter I want to flood the illegal torrent sites with fake porn torrents, I know I can only make a tiny dent, but that is good enough for me

if I can take 1000 porn trailers and make them appear to be 300mb and get people downloading them one after the other until they finally say AAAUUUUGGGGHHHH!!!!! because there is nothing worthwhile in them except for ads and drm popups, then isn't that achieving something?

Jace 09-02-2007 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13022410)
I don't see where he's "feeding the scammers" exactly.

i think he thinks that because I will be submitting the torrents from my site to other trackers it will be "feeding them"

StuartD 09-02-2007 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 13022419)
i think he thinks that because I will be submitting the torrents from my site to other trackers it will be "feeding them"

If it's all trailers and promos and ads.... then it's something the sponsors should have been doing long ago.
Fill those trackers up!!!

Jace 09-02-2007 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13022422)
If it's all trailers and promos and ads.... then it's something the sponsors should have been doing long ago.
Fill those trackers up!!!

that is my goal :)

I wanna slam the illegal trackers with our promo crap

TeenCat 09-02-2007 06:28 AM

umm looks nice, but i am not sure if someone will download small videos from torrents, people are looking for full cds and site rips, so maybe wasting of time? :2 cents:

KimJI 09-02-2007 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 13022413)
what part of what I posted had anything to do with anything illegal?

if you read my previous posts about the matter I want to flood the illegal torrent sites with fake porn torrents, I know I can only make a tiny dent, but that is good enough for me

if I can take 1000 porn trailers and make them appear to be 300mb and get people downloading them one after the other until they finally say AAAUUUUGGGGHHHH!!!!! because there is nothing worthwhile in them except for ads and drm popups, then isn't that achieving something?

I didn't say you were doing anything illegal, what I meant was why provide them with content. Even if the content is fake, it still helps them get traffic based on Keywords.



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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 13022419)
i think he thinks that because I will be submitting the torrents from my site to other trackers it will be "feeding them"

That is exactly my point. As I said to begin with, I'm not trying to flame you project, but no matter what, you are still feeding content in to the torrent sites. The more content they have, the higher they get places on the search engines. But its your choice. All I asked was why not keep the site as a closed network instead.


To sum it up. I do not think this is the way to fight the sites that use copyrighted content without permission.

I think the right way to go is, going after the hosts that provide them shelter, and the sponsors that makes it possible for them to profit of the sites

Snake Doctor 09-02-2007 06:47 AM

It's gotta be Goatse, ALL GOATSE...and maybe a little tub girl :)

Snake Doctor 09-02-2007 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KimJI (Post 13022499)
I didn't say you were doing anything illegal, what I meant was why provide them with content. Even if the content is fake, it still helps them get traffic based on Keywords.





That is exactly my point. As I said to begin with, I'm not trying to flame you project, but no matter what, you are still feeding content in to the torrent sites. The more content they have, the higher they get places on the search engines. But its your choice. All I asked was why not keep the site as a closed network instead.


To sum it up. I do not think this is the way to fight the sites that use copyrighted content without permission.

I think the right way to go is, going after the hosts that provide them shelter, and the sponsors that makes it possible for them to profit of the sites

You are fucking retarted.

That's all.

devilspost 09-02-2007 06:57 AM

Dont torrent users rate and flag bad downloads?

KimJI 09-02-2007 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by devilspost (Post 13022512)
Dont torrent users rate and flag bad downloads?

They do. It will be present on the trackers for less than 6 hours before they are removed. When there are no sources for the file (because no-one will share it) and all reviews of the "Seeded" content are bad and labeled as "fake", it will be removed within a day.


People tried this trick on Limewire, Edonkey, Kaaza and every other P2P out there. And I don't think anyone in their right mind would call those campaigns a success.

Jace 09-02-2007 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KimJI (Post 13022518)
They do. It will be present on the trackers for less than 6 hours before they are removed. When there are no sources for the file (because no-one will share it) and all reviews of the "Seeded" content are bad and labeled as "fake", it will be removed within a day.


People tried this trick on Limewire, Edonkey, Kaaza and every other P2P out there. And I don't think anyone in their right mind would call those campaigns a success.

let me ask you this then, what are YOU doing to fight this?

I have approx 300 porn torrent trackers being installed right this moment, all will be hosting porn trailers and clips, all going to be flooding the torrent search engines

what are YOU doing?

Oracle Porn 09-02-2007 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 13022454)
umm looks nice, but i am not sure if someone will download small videos from torrents, people are looking for full cds and site rips, so maybe wasting of time? :2 cents:

read thread idiot

btw after 3 downloads someone will comment that your seed is shit and no one will download

RawAlex 09-02-2007 07:11 AM

Jace, the only bad news is that you create more pages for the torrent sites, more chances to get good SERPs, and more traffic gets sucked over there.

TeenCat 09-02-2007 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 13022523)
read thread idiot

btw after 3 downloads someone will comment that your seed is shit and no one will download

idiot for what? can you explain your hard words? thanks in advance

KimJI 09-02-2007 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 13022521)
let me ask you this then, what are YOU doing to fight this?

I have approx 300 porn torrent trackers being installed right this moment, all will be hosting porn trailers and clips, all going to be flooding the torrent search engines

what are YOU doing?


I'm working on www.piratealert.com where we work together with the hosts and sponsors to cut off the funding and hosting. The site wont be ready for at least a month

scottybuzz 09-02-2007 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 13022413)
what part of what I posted had anything to do with anything illegal?

if you read my previous posts about the matter I want to flood the illegal torrent sites with fake porn torrents, I know I can only make a tiny dent, but that is good enough for me

if I can take 1000 porn trailers and make them appear to be 300mb and get people downloading them one after the other until they finally say AAAUUUUGGGGHHHH!!!!! because there is nothing worthwhile in them except for ads and drm popups, then isn't that achieving something?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

brilliant idea jace!

KimJI 09-02-2007 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13022527)
Jace, the only bad news is that you create more pages for the torrent sites, more chances to get good SERPs, and more traffic gets sucked over there.


I already mentioned that, but "you are retarded" was the best reply I got

Jace 09-02-2007 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KimJI (Post 13022530)
I'm working on www.piratealert.com where we work together with the hosts and sponsors to cut off the funding and hosting. The site wont be ready for at least a month

great, you are taking the "nice" approach

I would rather build up traffic to hundreds of fake trackers and then infest the users with garbage and bullshit

bittorrent accounts for something like 32% of all internet traffic, cutting one site off just makes them open 5 more just like it

if I can start this project and along the way figure out how to fuck the surfers that are stealing, then I would rather do that than sit and report sites all day to hosts and providers...i am sick of being nice about it, no one cares, so I am going to start this shit and learn how to fuck em up

hell, I will post full length wmv videos and halfway through the video have a codec install and tear the users computer up...LOL...i am sick of it

TeenCat 09-02-2007 07:22 AM

ok i think i understand, so another thread to beat users, i still think better is to beat thiefs, instead of making hard work with small chances why you dont secure your members areas? no ideas? :2 cents: respect at the first place ...

u-Bob 09-02-2007 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13022527)
Jace, the only bad news is that you create more pages for the torrent sites, more chances to get good SERPs

That's the whole point (or at least a big part of it). Right now "real" (read: illegal) torrent sites 'own' the SERPS for a lot of xxx related keywords. If you take away some of their SE traffic and send those surfers to fake torrent sites (maybe even filled with tons of popups), you ruin the reputation of torrent sites in general. Soon, surfers will come to associate the word 'torrent' with 'fake files', 'a waste of time',... instead of with 'free content'.

u-Bob 09-02-2007 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 13022543)
why you dont secure your members areas?

:1orglaugh
what about full DVDrips etc being shared on torrent sites?

KimJI 09-02-2007 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 13022535)
great, you are taking the "nice" approach

I would rather build up traffic to hundreds of fake trackers and then infest the users with garbage and bullshit

bittorrent accounts for something like 32% of all internet traffic, cutting one site off just makes them open 5 more just like it

if I can start this project and along the way figure out how to fuck the surfers that are stealing, then I would rather do that than sit and report sites all day to hosts and providers...i am sick of being nice about it, no one cares, so I am going to start this shit and learn how to fuck em up

hell, I will post full length wmv videos and halfway through the video have a codec install and tear the users computer up...LOL...i am sick of it

Its not the "nice" approach. Its the hard and professional approach where we prevent instead of Combat. You are going after the users, I go after the people that profit from it.

I hope the part about codec install and tear the users computer up was a joke

u-Bob 09-02-2007 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 13022454)
umm looks nice, but i am not sure if someone will download small videos from torrents, people are looking for full cds and site rips, so maybe wasting of time? :2 cents:

take a small clip/trailer, add a couple hundred megs of empty frames... simple...

u-Bob 09-02-2007 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KimJI (Post 13022565)
Its not the "nice" approach. Its the hard and professional approach where we prevent instead of Combat. You are going after the users, I go after the people that profit from it.

I wouldn't call it "going after the users", I'd call it "killing the reputation of torrent sites in general".

Quote:

Originally Posted by KimJI (Post 13022565)
I hope the part about codec install and tear the users computer up was a joke

same here.

KimJI 09-02-2007 07:35 AM

Lets bump this post 6 months from now and see the result. I'm not dissing you or your project. I have kept a open mind about your project but I don't think it will work, and I think you are going after the wrong people.

Blue Player 09-02-2007 07:37 AM

Hey if you need a couple of PC to help seed it then I have two in the office on different IPs. I could just download all the stuff from somewhere and shove it on both machines.

TeenCat 09-02-2007 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 13022564)
:1orglaugh
what about full DVDrips etc being shared on torrent sites?

ok thank you so its only for web-based sites, i havent been thinking about that most of the sites are producing dvds too

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 13022566)
take a small clip/trailer, add a couple hundred megs of empty frames... simple...

right good idea, but torrent sites are moderated so those files will be not so long alive so again its only much more work with small effect :2 cents: maybe if you can change the whole torrent while you are downloading it so you can corrupt the whole seed, that can be the way ... but seeding own corrupted material ... that cant work so long. thanks for your replies, newbie learned something new ;)

u-Bob 09-02-2007 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 13022606)
right good idea, but torrent sites are moderated so those files will be not so long alive so again its only much more work with small effect :2 cents:

from: http://www.rlslog.net/fake-torrents-flooding-mininova/
Quote:

Although it?s very clear it?s fake and it?s also written in the comments, more than 6000 people already tried to download it.

Klen 09-02-2007 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 13022523)
read thread idiot

btw after 3 downloads someone will comment that your seed is shit and no one will download

Not all torrent sites have comment feature,neither cannot be commented all 1000 torrents uploaded.

TeenCat 09-02-2007 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 13022647)

thank you for info and nice link, so now we are talking only about free traffic? if 6000 people download corrupted file and people will like the preview, someone will buy it and seed the right file ... so in my eyes its all this work worth few memberships ... ? respect, just another newbies :2 cents:

donkevlar 09-02-2007 03:12 PM

Sorry Jace, you know i heart you but this isn't going to do shit but annoy about 1 person per file and as many people have said, make more pages for the torrent site/s.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-02-2007 03:31 PM

Jace i'm gonna start a torrent site and host illegal downloads, wanna share of the profits?

AmeliaG 09-02-2007 03:34 PM

Killer idea!

geeknik 09-02-2007 04:11 PM

Won't take long for you to get banned from the trackers. I hope you have plenty of proxy IPs to use. :)

beemk 09-02-2007 04:26 PM

lol sending fake porn torrents to sites is feeding them with content, you're an idiot. i think its a great idea.

StarkReality 09-02-2007 04:26 PM

It's a great idea, but it will take alot of effort. The music industry tried a similar concept for years now, the real stolen content is still around...but this doesn't mean trying won't have any effect and it's much better than just sitting, waiting, hoping and whining ! All the best for your project !

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-02-2007 04:27 PM

Thats silly.
Seriously.

Decent torrent scripts verify file size. Yer pissing in the wind.

flashfire 09-02-2007 04:41 PM

not many will download shitty clips and trailers when they can get the whole thing...good luck though

Jace 09-02-2007 04:47 PM

thanks to all that have emailed me about this, lots of great ideas flowing for sure

and to those that would rather whine and tell me how bad of an idea it is...great, thanks for the input

seriously guys, I am learning and playing, and those that are serious and have content and biz to do have contacted me and have given ideas and worked with me with open arms, and that is all I am asking for

if nothing else, I will get these sites I am creating all over the engines and the sponsors that I am working with will get extra exposure, what is so bad about that?

btw, I created a torrent last night, a single trailer that was only 30mb, it has not been flagged on any site and has been downloaded a total of 2932 times and also has 23 people seeding it

people want porn, they don't care how big it is, now if we can flood tons of trackers with porn like this, what is bad about that?

RawAlex 09-02-2007 04:57 PM

Jace, it is only bad because it continues to teach surfers to go to torrent sites to get porn. It keeps them with the traffic, and keep them getting banner clicks and income. You are providing the content to make them stronger.

Jace 09-02-2007 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13023952)
Jace, it is only bad because it continues to teach surfers to go to torrent sites to get porn. It keeps them with the traffic, and keep them getting banner clicks and income. You are providing the content to make them stronger.

torrent sites are here, there is no getting rid of them, I would rather sit and play with a site and figure out ways to monetize that source of traffic than get grumpy and pout about it

if I can knock one top listing out of the se's for porn torrents then it is worth it to me

Jace 09-02-2007 05:01 PM

one thing is funny though, as much people on gfy are either bitching or being discouraging about it, 6 BIG sponsors have contacted me already and are uploading their files

also, these are files they already have made and are uploading to other torrent sites, so this is already something others are doing, and on a large scale

TeenCat 09-02-2007 05:05 PM

ok wish you luck with that idea ;) i will be happy to be informed, maybe we can wait for new section on torrent trackers "xxx trailers" :)

Nicky 09-02-2007 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 13023921)

btw, I created a torrent last night, a single trailer that was only 30mb, it has not been flagged on any site and has been downloaded a total of 2932 times and also has 23 people seeding it

people want porn, they don't care how big it is, now if we can flood tons of trackers with porn like this, what is bad about that?

How many clicks to sponsor? :winkwink:

Jace 09-02-2007 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 13023986)
How many clicks to sponsor? :winkwink:

no idea, it was a watermarked trailer

I haven't gotten around to doing anything clickable yet, just testing to the waters for now

guess I need to get some popups in the vids or sumpin huh? hehe

Jace 09-02-2007 05:12 PM

rofl, I am done playing with torrents for the day, back to real work

d-null 09-02-2007 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 13022557)
That's the whole point (or at least a big part of it). Right now "real" (read: illegal) torrent sites 'own' the SERPS for a lot of xxx related keywords. If you take away some of their SE traffic and send those surfers to fake torrent sites (maybe even filled with tons of popups), you ruin the reputation of torrent sites in general. Soon, surfers will come to associate the word 'torrent' with 'fake files', 'a waste of time',... instead of with 'free content'.

That's what most people think of limewire and the others that came on to replace napster, now alot of music listeners buy itune cards because they are sick of the hassles and bad files.

It doesn't hurt to cover all bases.


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